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Capcom share holders do not approve stock take over defense

Here's a flow chart of the plan that wasn't approved by shareholders:

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hmm... no real interesting conversations yet so i'll try to start one.

What makes you guys think Nintendo should buy Capcom majority shares (ignoring your fanboy/fangirl dreams)? Don't you think that Nintendo are not doing as great financially (regardless of their total assets)with their Wii U system they are trying to breathe life into? Shouldn't they focus on their own financial gain rather than spending money on a company not doing so well and with the unknown of whether they would make profits for them? Don't forget, Nintendo also have investors they need to please and i dont know what their profit is for this quarter but i don't know how happy investors would be if Nintendo break the bank with buying Capcom shares.

People say again and again that Nintendo's problem is that they don't have enough diversity (people were clamoring for new IPs). This would GREATLY diversify Nintendo's game library and draw in many hard core fan bases (fighting games, monster hunter, Mega Man, Resident Evil, etc).

A larger game library draws more customers and would be good for Nintendo and it's stock holders.
 

MightyKAC

Member
I honestly don't care who buys Capcom out (if it does indeed actually happen) but I only hope whoever does is more forward thinking then its current regime.
 

mjontrix

Member
Capcom's market cap is 95.77 billion JPY ($940 million).

It's not as simple as you're implying. It depends how much liquidity is in the stock and how much is on the open market. You'll have investors that are only holding - and will only sell if given an appropriate offer.
 
It's not as simple as you're implying. It depends how much liquidity is in the stock and how much is on the open market. You'll have investors that are only holding - and will only sell if given an appropriate offer.

Of course it isn't. Just wanted to give a very rough estimate of Capcom's value in the market.
 
lets hope itll be Nintendo or Sony, especially Nintendo could add some genres to their list that arent that common on their home console

i have worried thoughts about a Microsoft interest though, it could become a Rare 2.0 :/
 
Nintendo won't buy Capcom. The corporate cultures don't mesh. Also, Capcom has far too much of its value invested into multi-platform titles and non-Nintendo console-exclusive titles.

The big Chinese mobile companies, on the other hand...
 

fader

Member
People say again and again that Nintendo's problem is that they don't have enough diversity (people were clamoring for new IPs). This would GREATLY diversify Nintendo's game library and draw in many hard core fan bases (fighting games, monster hunter, Mega Man, Resident Evil, etc).

A larger game library draws more customers and would be good for Nintendo and it's stock holders.

i agree that with a more diverse library, it would in fact help Nintendo but, what diversity does Capcom offer that would benifit a majority shares purchase? Capcom's heavy hitters have been drained-dry or buried. I don't know if sticking a Nintendo sticker on the box and making it a Wii U or 3DS exclusive would benefit Nintendo in anyway.
 
Well, that is not true at all. Monster Hunter makes loads of money and that's a 3ds exclusive. Imagine if all Capcom games had the level of focus and budget that Nintendo can provide.

All of those classic Capcom IPs would do incredibly well and Nintendo would be looking hardcore gamers in the eyes: I don't know anyone that would be able to resist a console that has Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Street Fighter, MegaMan, Monster Hunter, Breath of Fire, Dead Rising, Dino Crisis, Phoenix Wright, and Viewtiful Joe exclusively.

You're talking about a scenario that will never exist. Capcom's never had all those IP's active at one time. Just look at how small their current lineup is. And a number of those IP's really aren't that big of a deal anymore (Mega Man, BoF, Dino Crisis) or have never been a big deal (VJ) in terms of sales. So they'd most likely just continue to rot away by whoever ends up buying them. The money is in RE, DMC, SF, MH, PW and maybe DR. And two of those are largely handheld only franchises.

The best thing for Capcom would b to be bought by a company that wouldn't change how they can make games. They could just continue their operation without any real shakeups. That's why Atlus was able to transition so easily with Sega's purchase. If Nintendo had bought them, as many speculated, they would've had to restart the development of P5, P4D and P4A on different platforms.

In the case of Capcom, they've just spent millions of dollars investing in their new current-gen engine (Panta Rhei) which isn't even compatible with Nintendo platforms.
 

Mariolee

Member
Yeah, Nintendo sure has been doing justice to Samus lately, huh.

We just had one of the greatest gaming trilogies of all time with the Prime games. Just because Other M is a bit of a dud doesn't mean Nintendo isn't trying. Especially when they one of their producers stated they were looking at ideas for both traditional and Prine-like video games, and how prominently Samus is featured in Smash.
 

Cbajd5

Member
nintendo should use the money they make off of megaman amiibos to buy out capcom

because that'd be funny if not impossible
 

Mariolee

Member
Another game company is not going to buy Capcom.

IF anyone did, it would be a bigger media conglomerate that wants to get in to mobile games and sees Capcom as their entry in to that market. Or a company that's already big in the mobile scene.

What if Square Enix buys them? If they're going down, they're taking Capcom with them.
 
sort of a pessimistic foresight don't you think? Capcom doesn't really have a great history with mobile games
History doesnt matter all that much if you have a new boss telling you what to do, especially if they are being told to reevaluate and refocus, something which Capcom seems to be failing at. And in the case of Microsoft, as my post was talking about, the only thing close to a mobile gaming platform that they have is Windows/Phone. If Fans of say Monster Hunter, Phoenix Wright or Megaman were told that if the only way they would get to play a new game would be if they bought a Windows Phone or Windows 8 PC, you would see sales of Lumia 520s jump (being the cheapest of the bunch) by a tiny amount.

But like I said, Microsoft wouldn't do it anyways because there is little sense in them doing it. Especially when you factor in that Microsoft is giving the impression that they would rather make their own studios then buy others.
 

Terrell

Member
You're talking about a scenario that will never exist. Capcom's never had all those IP's active at one time. Just look at how small their current lineup is. And a number of those IP's really aren't that big of a deal anymore (Mega Man, BoF, Dino Crisis) or have never been a big deal (VJ) in terms of sales. So they'd most likely just continue to rot away by whoever ends up buying them. The money is in RE, DMC, SF, MH, PW and maybe DR. And two of those are largely handheld only franchises.

The best thing for Capcom would b to be bought by a company that wouldn't change how they can make games. They could just continue their operation without any real shakeups. That's why Atlus was able to transition so easily with Sega's purchase. If Nintendo had bought them, as many speculated, they would've had to restart the development of P5, P4D and P4A on different platforms.
There are ways around that, like delayed integrations so they can fulfill existing contracts and milestones.

And platform holders have slightly less risk in more diversity, since their primary objective is hardware unit sales. So it's not the same situation.
 

antibolo

Banned
Why do people want Nintendo/Sony/MS to buy out Capcom? Having Capcom games limited to one platform would be awful.

Well first of all, after what happened with Rare I'm fairly sure that anyone who suggests Microsoft is just trolling.

As for Sony or Microsoft, consider this: having games limited to one platform is not so awful when you consider the fact that this pretty much guarantees that they will not turn them into F2P iOS/Android factories. Because let's be honest, if anyone else than the console platform holders buys a huge game company such as Capcom, it's only going to go towards that shit route.

Literally everyone wants to get a slice of the mobile f2p shit game pie. The only ones who don't are those who are actively competing against it, ie. console platform holders.
 

sega4ever

Member
Well first of all, after what happened with Rare I'm fairly sure that anyone who suggests Microsoft is just trolling.

As for Sony or Microsoft, consider this: having games limited to one platform is not so awful when you consider the fact that this pretty much guarantees that they will not turn them into F2P iOS/Android factories. Because let's be honest, if anyone else than the console platform holders buys a huge game company such as Capcom, it's only going to go towards that shit route.

so you want capcom to sell less?
 

Asd202

Member
Nintendo is not stupid enough to buy Capcom. Monster Hunter would still come to the best selling handheld which would be Nintendo's and sales of such series like Street Fighter and Resident Evil would fell off the cliff it they would be exclusive to Nintendo home console exclusive.
 

Vdragoon

Member
Going by a few comments I would love to see Nintendo buy out Capcom for SF exclusivity and watch the meltdown. What on earth makes you not able to play SF on Nintendo platform?

Also, for Castlevania! ;)
 
Capcom's market cap is 95.77 billion JPY ($940 million).

Overvalued. The company has piss poor margins and very limited growth opportunities. The company also seems like it's struggling with console development, I took a look at their financials and apparently their biggest title for this FY is Monster Hunter 4G, a re-release of a game that's already out.
 
Nintendo should buy Capcom, allow them to finish their third party games (honestly, is Capcom making any kind of a system seller these days?), then press them into Wii U development as soon as those are done. I think it could work, but then again Nintendo does need to maintain a high level of cash on hand, times are tough right now. Does anyone actually know how much cash Nintendo has in the bank?

EDIT: nvm, it's $10.5 Billion USD. Plenty to pay $500 million (or even less) for control. Plus you get all of Capcom's IP's, and it's dev teams. I'd say it's a good buy.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
Nintendo is not stupid enough to buy Capcom. Monster Hunter would still come to the best selling handheld which would be Nintendo's and sales of such series like Street Fighter and Resident Evil would fell off the cliff it they would be Nintendo home console exclusive.

I would find it incredibly stupid to hold such prejudice for something like this. As it stands now it's not fairing well for the genre and many fighting games are testing F2P models to help keep the money flowing in. If a company can pick them up and save some franchises from ever having to go that route the better. But, Tekken, DOA are doing F2P and Street Fighter 5 may have microtransactions. If it stays 3rd party and can still be saved from going this route I'll be all for that too.
 

Sandfox

Member
Nintendo is not stupid enough to buy Capcom. Monster Hunter would still come to the best selling handheld which would be Nintendo's and sales of such series like Street Fighter and Resident Evil would fell off the cliff it they would be exclusive to Nintendo home console exclusive.

As much as I don't think they should spend that much money on one company the reasons you listed really wouldn't turn them off from buying Capcom if they really wanted. They would get full control of those series and get money they aren't seeing from them now.
 

Cbajd5

Member
Nintendo is not stupid enough to buy Capcom. Monster Hunter would still come to the best selling handheld which would be Nintendo's and sales of such series like Street Fighter and Resident Evil would fell off the cliff it they would be exclusive to Nintendo home console exclusive.

Uh, Monster Hunter wouldn't come to the best selling handheld if exclusivity was bought by someone else. You know, like last generation? It would be especially bad if that was a permanent situation.

If those series sales fell off a cliff then it just means they weren't really popular, if their fans could be so easily lost just because it wasn't on a certain console.
 
Anyone but Nintendo. I can't imagine playing street fighter on something like WiiU with no community.

I never got the idea of people saying "I won't buy this because no one else will buy it." Sure I get that there is fear of the possibility but it seems to be some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy when people say that.
 
As much as I don't think they should spend that much money on one company the reasons you listed really wouldn't turn them off from buying Capcom if they really wanted. They would get full control of those series and get money they aren't seeing from them now.
I think it would be worth it almost for the personnel, 2K according to Google. I'm assuming most have game development experience.

After that, you get heavy hitting IP's like Resident Evil, Megaman, Street Fighter, and Monster Hunter. One good Monster Hunter will make up the $500 million in a single release. As will a good Street Fighter. A Megaman revival (nicely coinciding with the Smash debut) will make it up too in a few years. Plus you get a huge staff buff to help you with Wii U development. This is a good buy if Nintendo's paying attention.
 
WTF at these Nintendo posts. Nintendo buying Capcom would only hurt Capcom and do very little to help Nintendo. I simply can't see that working any other way.
 

biocat

Member
I could see GungHo buying them. They are sitting on piles of Puzzle & Dragon money and could use Capcom's established IPs and studios to make a full-on assault on the console market.
 

kuroshiki

Member
Wow a lot of hyperbole here.


1. Just because Capcom failed to get approval for defense doesn't mean anyone wants to buy capcom.

2. If anyone wants to buy them, it is more than likely a mobile, or any company that does not have strong presence in traditional game market.

3. I strongly suspect if anyone wants to pay premium for capcom share (those who want/can afford to) it probably is tencent.
 
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