gutter_trash
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Brazil x Mexico is the more entertaining one by a mile.
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2014 FIFA World Cup |OT2| Germany Müllers Portugal
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Brazil x Mexico is the more entertaining one by a mile.
Yep, Spain plays dominating 1-0 type games. But they need to score a bunch after getting steamrolled by the dutchies. Should make for a fun game.
This is incredibly cool haha
I'm glad you're enjoying the sport mate! Next up: picking a football club)
Today was a good time as well, mostly because I had a better grasp on how the game works going in compared to yesterday. I seem to be picking up on new things with each match.
One thing I haven't figured out though; under what circumstances is time added to the end of the game (like today's game between Russia and Korea)? I've seen it happen a couple of times but have yet to figure out what the reasoning is.
A stoppage in play occurs, injurie, subs etc
Broder Salsa
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It's really just whatever much time the ref feels has been wasted with substitions and injuries.
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Xpike
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Added time is added depending on the ref, it's supposed to be the time lost during the game due to celebrations, time wasting, etc, but sometimes the game goes so smoothly no time is given at all.
CMojicaAce
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Time is added every game depending on the amount of time lost during play. (injuries, substitutions, fights, etc.) All depends on how much the referee wants to give really. I've seen games where nothing has been added and games where 7+ minutes have been added.
EDIT: Beaten like Spain.
Charles Foster Kane
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Which matches did you watch?
There is no reasoning, but it's not completely random. For instance, If a top tier club is losing by 1 at home add 5 minutes. Or, if the USA has a lead in World Cup, add 5 minutes. The opposite also applies.
I remember reading that there's actually a reasoning for some stuff like subs: Each one adds 30secs of injury time. Dunno if true, but seems possible.
Right, there's an official reasoning, but in practice it seems to be influenced by factors beyond the actual delays in a game. I've only been really watching soccer for 10 years though so I could be full of shit.
CMojicaAce
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I think that the official reasoning is that if your team is winning by 1 goal, then at least 4 minutes get added.
Thanks for the responses guys, I understand now
Between yesterday and today I watched all of them, but missed the first few days. I'm going to try and watch as many as I can, now that find myself genuinely interested in the games.
Between yesterday and today I watched all of them, but missed the first few days. I'm going to try and watch as many as I can, now that find myself genuinely interested in the games.
The official guidance for referees is to add 30 seconds for each substitution and goal in a given half, (discretion taken if two subs are made simultaneously.) Rounded down. So 1 sub adds nothing, but 2 adds a minute.
In addition, add any full stoppages in play, and time can be added if one team is deemed to be wasting time on throw-ins, goal kicks, etc.
Watch enough games, though, and you'll see plenty of instances where the stoppage time added just doesn't make sense. Generally speaking though, most referees get it just about right.
Skellig Gra
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I agree, but it seems there is a common theme where an underdog is winning and the stoppage time magically multiplies. Typically underdogs lose so most of the time it is "right".
Junior Asparagus
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I enjoy soccer, but that is still something I don't really understand, unless the goal is to add additional drama. Having an actual official game clock and stopping in where there are stoppages in play just makes so much more sense to me.
I remember MLS even tried doing it that way (like most other American sports) when they started, but they changed it to be like everyone else. I guess it's just an ingrained part of soccer at this point.
I remember MLS even tried doing it that way (like most other American sports) when they started, but they changed it to be like everyone else. I guess it's just an ingrained part of soccer at this point.
Mr.Awesome
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They can't stop the clock or else fitness becomes less part of the game.
That said I'd love to see stoppage time become an exact, publicly known science.
Ronaldo effect
NYCmetsfan
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This is great!
No way, just think of how many games have been won and lose in the very last seconds of a match, in those extra 30 secs after the stoppage time.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Spain is gonna be out for blood. I'd be worried.
Skellig Gra
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Sorry if I'm being dense but what does this represent?
Russia...
The number of players in their national team that play in their own country versus abroad.
Mr.Awesome
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I don't get what you are saying no way to in response to me?
Yep i know, but i dont think Chile will be defeated easily
Power rangers chilean version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUyR6l_b7j0
The number of players in the 23 man squad that play in that country's domestic league. You expect teams from big leagues to have a high number.
Edit: who's the one Englishman not playing domestically?
Skellig Gra
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Right I was being dense. So arshavin would have been the only non Russian league international I suppose. Although he left arsenal last year I think.
Fraser Forster, who plays for Celtic.
Fraser Forster, third choice Goal Keeper who plays for Celtic (Scotland).
Regulus Tera
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A Cameroon victory would be better as there's no way Cameroon would be able to grab points from Brazil. FIFA won't allow it.
Maninthemirror
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Russia...
Russia is odd that their league is not very good but all players are in country.
England, Italy, Germany and Spain I can understand as high percentages as their own leagues are world class
Surprised about mexico thier players would benefit from overseas leagues a lot.
The Mexican league pays domestic players very well, more than European clubs are often willing to risk on them.
Junior Asparagus
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How does fitness become less a part of the game? Shouldn't it be basically the same game if the ref is controlling the clock? It's not like people are running all over the field when someone is getting carried off on a stretcher. Just have the ref blow the whistle and stop the clock, then start it again when play is ready to start. Then the game can end at 90:00 and everyone can know how much time is left.
Oh Dennis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZkCFoqSBs
Unfortunately, our players are very well payed here; therefore, most have little motivation to move overseas to more competitive leagues, earning probably less.
True, but I'm talking about realistic scenarios
Nah, who knows, Cameroon might prove tougher than I expect to Croatia, but I just don't see them winning right now. Heck, I'd gladly take being proven wrong on this one.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Eto'o may not play tomorrow. I'd say Cameroon is pretty much done.
Cameroon was done when the draw was held.
Hasphat'sAnts
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that Gazprom money.
I remember there being quite a few Russians playing in the Portuguese league in the late nineties to mid 2000s. I think once the Gazprom money started flowing the Russian clubs bought them all back up to boost the league up a little. Alenichev was one of my favorite players when he was at Porto. I believe he's the only Russian to ever lift the Champions League trophy. Scored a beauty coming off the bench in the final. Real clutch player back in his day.
gutter_trash
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some go after for the money (towards Russia, Turkey), some go after prestige (England, Spain), some decide to stay home out of patriotism
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Is Roger Milla available?
Injury? Politics?
Sviatoslav
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Too bad that Alenichev was as much of choking shitstain for the national team as the current crop apparently are.
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