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Destiny PS4 Timed Exclusives will last until "At least Fall 2015"
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RoyalLaFlame
Banned
True. Both pay 60$ for the same game but one of them has an extra - basically the other one is paying less for the same ammount of money. This is not 4ThePlayers, this is a big "screw you if you don't have our console".
(I'm talking about MS and Sony)
What?
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
So we finally have a "Bungie has shot themselves in the foot" meme to replace the old, overused "Square has shot themselves in the foot" one. Nice.
Is this a thing? Does that mean PS4 version will be scaled down for parity reasons??
digoutyoursoul
Member
Do you have proof of this ?
I thought this was confirmed as false. PS4 is the lead platform for The Division.
RadarScope1
Member
Not sure what all the bitching is about. This is just the lastest verse in a long-running song. Until we reach the One Console Future, these things will happen.
And besides, I'm not sure I believe the Amazon listing anyway. Let's wait for confirmation.
And besides, I'm not sure I believe the Amazon listing anyway. Let's wait for confirmation.
MMaRsu
Banned
Well no, they don't want to 'do a battlefield'.
http://www.gamereactor.eu/news/123004/Massive+don't+want+to+"do+a+Battlefield+4"+with+The+Division/
Knoxcore, they wanted it, but Massive said fuck that. THANK GOD. But it's obvious they are going around third parties wanting lead development to be shifted to Xbox One to make sure that version looks just as good as the PS4 version.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
Why would MS do that? Makes no sense spending money like that.
EDIT: It didn't happen. So PS4 is still the lead platform.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I'm not going to say I've never ever bought a timed exclusive, but I will say that I go out of my way to avoid them. I'll buy Evolve on PC. I wont' get COD, and probably won't get The Division.
IIRC:
- Titanfall signs with EA Partners, gets a set budget for the game
- Game development begins
- Zampella or West leaves (I don't remember which)
- Development continues 2-3 years
- Respawn burned through their budget with almost nothing to show for it
- EA would cancel the game unless outside funding arrived to lower risk
- MS stepped up in exchange for 1 year timed exclusivity
- Game continues development
- Disastrous Xbox One reveal
- Many gamers saying they'll wait for it to come to PS4
- MS pays EA an undisclosed amount for full exclusivity
- Internet rage en masse
- Internet hyping en masse
- Game comes out
- Falls off the face of the earth because of matchmaking and lack of content
- Titanfall 2 (probably) coming to PS4
- The wait begins
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Nightengale
Member
The frustrating thing is that if I'm in either company's shoes... why wouldn't I do it? The competitor is doing it, it's proven effective, it creates no real backlash from your own community of gamers, ( otoh, it clearly rustle the jimmies of competitor's community ), and it's presumably relatively cheap.
The moment that the business/marketing model was proven to work and sustainable, it was a downward spiral to hell.
A hell only escapable by Nintendo returning to the top of the food chain. ( and 3rd-party games losing their relevance of current multi-million selling power that makes platform holders beg on their knees for exclusive content )
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Seems silly.
Don't support the marketing strategies, then you shouldn't buy the game at all. It takes two to tango.
As a person that played a decent amount of multiplats last gen on PS3, the lack of certain content was a minor annoyance.
MMaRsu
Banned
Sure but who is to say that another developer won't do it either? I feel like this is a pretty shitty thing to ask of a developer.
The article itself states that they have not done what you suggest, how are you claiming they are going around to developers giving money to change focus?
Uno Venova
Banned
Yikes, that's a lot of concern. If only the marketing deal was with XBox.
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
mejin
Member
Well, Microsoft tried. But I read Ubi refused and even announced PS4 as lead plataform.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I guess this could have an impact on graphics and performance compared to the Ps4 version.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
And that's what bothers me. This Destiny exclusive content is not really that important to me but I do hate those "1 hour exclusive" Sony has been doing or those Timed Exclusive games MS does.
True.
I doubt performance would be an issue but I agree on the graphics side.
Woo-Fu
Banned
No, it means he is joining the PC master race where there are no platform holders to give money to publishers to produce exclusive DLC.
I don't think that would make a lot of sense. I mean imagine what happens when the PS4 version runs better/looks better anyway even with Xbox One as the lead platform and Microsoft paid for the privilege. That'd be a disaster, lol.
That said I think it is mind-boggling whenever the PC isn't the lead platform. Seems like the easiest place to port from when it comes to the ps4 and one.
AmethystEnd
Member
Sooooo... buying the pc version of a game with exclusive content on a specific console isn't supporting the publisher who made the exclusivity deal?
Uh huh. Gotcha.
Woo-Fu
Banned
You'll note that nowhere in my post did I state he was going to buy the game on PC.
Chobel
Member
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
LOL!!!
AmethystEnd
Member
Then you maybe want to read more of the thread before speaking for someone else.. Just a suggestion.
MMaRsu
Banned
They pressured Massive to shift development to Xbox One. Massive refused.
Who is to say other developers also refused?
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
Well sadly you did not play the Alpha so how could you think it wouldn't suit you? As a co-fan of the main Halo series up to 4, I have to say this game feels like their next big thing. The gameplay feels great, and the graphics are amazing. Sure content wise it's all up in the air but I think after you have played the Beta you will also be hyped for it. The game is really really good.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Either that, not buy it, or buy it on PC. I don't have a PS4 atm, so It's usually the PC for now. If it's down to a choice, I'll choose the non timed exclusive version.
Although f it's a game that I really can't go without playing, and I don't have the platform that didn't moneyhat timed exclusives. I'll buy it on whichever I own.
So you're not supporting the platform holder but you're supporting the publisher. I don't get it. Who are you for or against? If you're against this deal as much as you say, don't buy the game at all.
OK, now I'm curious. Even if PC isn't a playable platform at all, what makes it so difficult to develop for?
As someone that worked in large-scale software development where we had lead targets and it was never the platform that was the easiest. It was always the hardest platform.
You misunderstood me or I wasn't clear enough. The platform that lead development was the one that was the hardest, because that's where the focus is on to overcome all the technological challenges. Not that PC is the hardest to develop for.
As an example: Anything the Xbone can do, the PC will be able to do depending on what your lowest system requirements are.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I never said it was some life or death situation, and I'll never ever buy it. My above post describes exactly how I feel about it. It's more to not support MS and Sony's decision to money hat, rather than the Devs and Publishers.
Nightengale
Member
Pretty much this.
These deals happen also because the publishers feel that they can 'sell-out' parts of their game for the highest bidder. Nvidia, AMD, Playstation and Xbox are all guilty of throwing their hat into the ring to bid for these scraps.
Don't support the game at all if these marketing deals bother you. I for one,am a vocal opponent against specific kinds of 'co-marketing', but at the same time, I'm not going to let that fact make me choose bad decisions in my gaming experience. Otherwise, I'd pretty much stop enjoying games for good.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
What is this... I don't even...
Really don't even know how to respond to this nonsense. Making that big a deal over a few armor sets and a strike? In a game that has hundreds of each?
PS4 owners have never spent time with Halo? What? I have played and beat every Halo game, multiple times, read the books, rewatched the trailers, and have a cat helmet and noble team statue in my place. But because I have a PS4 my opinion is void?
And it is not just me. Every friend I have owned a 360 last gen, and an Xbox the gen before. They have played all of the Halo games, same as I. Hated the PS3, or in some cases just didn't like it enough to own a PS3 in addition to their 360. (Especially when they could just play the good exclusives at my place) But every single one of them owns a PS4 now. Should they, as Halo and Bungie fans now be discounted because they are out of your imaginary elitist Bungie/Halo/Microsoft club?
Beyond ridiculous post. Destiny will do fine, Bungie will do fine. The alpha was fantastic, the Beta will be improved, and the final game should be a very high quality Bungie title.
For a so called Bungie fan, you sure throw them under the bus for no apparent reason rather quickly.
So why even make the first post, trying to create unnecessary drama that Microsoft did that when they didn't?
First post reads as they did, second says they wanted to but couldn't.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
This is how I feel, I just think you said it better.
figadapaura
Member
Piece is claiming info is from a *Source* like the rumour of the switch. Massive Entertainment have not said anything about PS4 being lead platform in first place iirc.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
Maybe you should have played the Alpha, which convinced a lot of people. (Including me)
Oh wait.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
THAT will never happen.
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
This is tag worthy shit. Omg, lol
Business is business. They're just looking out for what's better for them. I can't hate.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.
And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.
As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.
That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
Says who? you?
The article does not show any sign of Microsoft doing what you stated, neither does the person that is being quoted in the article. Instead he states that IF microsoft was to do that, they would simply refuse.
So where are you getting your information from then?
MMaRsu
Banned
I'm just saying that Microsoft is going around pubs asking to have their game be lead dev on Xbox One. I don't doubt for a second that Massive is the only dev they asked.
They couldn't in the case of The Division, but they did attempt it. Which is contemptible in my eyes.
Maybe I misunderstood, I didnt mean to get anyone riled up. I just see Microsoft doing shit that's worse than exclusive content. Or at least that's the rumor that had been going around. If not true then just disregard whatever I just said. No need for an uproar.
Mister x media or mister media x , I could care less to learn his name but that is most likely where this silly rumor came from that the one will be lead platform bc it uses the secret dgpu
Ninja Scooter
Member
The article says "even if Microsoft want us to shift platform", which is worded in a way to suggest that they didn't. I think you are reading it wrong.
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