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[ShockingAlberto]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

 

[BGBW]

>children's wife
Ken, I'm disappointed.

He is supportive of his child's lifestyle choices.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Wait, Villager can talk?

 

[Hours Left]

Random #2: There's no way Lucas should be cut now, if we're having clones this close to their original.

 

[LOLDSFAN]

[QUOTE="D";121091341]*Sigh* So my fear was confirmed. Lucina a "clone".

Goddammit.

Was hoping for a alt costume.

As much as I like her, can't help but shake the feeling like its a wasted slot[/QUOTE]

Same. If she was able to get in but R.O.B. doesn't then tables will be flipped. ┬─┬

 

[PK Gaming]

Maybe Chrom will get swapped out if someone is using him. I think you're writing him off too easily. (I just looked closer at your av, maybe you've got some pent up frustration with Chrom?)

Anything can happen! Toon Link on a train!

See, I don't like this because Chrom and Robin share an extremely tight bond in FE:A. I can't think of a character that can come close to match his importance to Robin. To that end, I can't think of a character that can mimic his movements as well (I don't think Fred or Tharja could emulate his strikes)

 

[BGBW]

Wait, Villager can talk?

Who do you think was saying all those fish and bug puns the whole time?

 

[random25]

Goddamit how many children does he have!?

 

[Hours Left]

Same. If she was able to get in but R.O.B. doesn't then tables will be flipped. ┬─┬

Don't say such horrible things.

Lord R.O.B. will grace us with its holy presence.

See, I don't like this because Chrom and Robin share an extremely tight bond in FE:A. I can't think of a character that can come close to match his importance to Robin. To that end, I can't think of a character that can mimic his movements as well (I don't think Fred or Tharja could emulate his strikes)

It's just a theory. I don't think the idea if Chrom being playable is dependent on him being in Robin's FS. You can have four Marios in the game battling it out, so it doesn't really matter.

But as for who could replace him. I could see Fred or Morgan doing the job.

 

[ArchedThunder]

Random #2: There's no way Lucas should be cut now, if we're having clones this close to their original.

Pretty much at this point I think everyone from Brawl is coming back except Snake and Squirtle/Ivysaur. Now how about Mewtwo Sakurai?

 

[Myn]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

He specifically stated in the description of the PotD's that she's not an alternate costume, she has a size and ability variant from Marth, which grants her a selectable slot.

With the Wii Fit Trainers, the male and female Robins, the Villagers, and Little Mac, varying their appearances and voices works just like selecting alternate color variations. However, whenever there is even a small difference in abilities, that character gets an actual roster slot. That is why you can select Lucina individually.

 

[SmithnCo]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

Her box on the website is small too. This goes beyond simple web design. This is a conspiracy.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

He specifically stated in the description of the PotD's that she's not an alternate costume, she has a size and ability variant from Marth, which grants her a selectable slot.

Right, I think you missed the trailer, though. It had "?!" in her character introduction, which confirms my theory.

 

[Spinluck]

He specifically stated in the description of the PotD's that she's not an alternate costume, she has a size and ability variant from Marth, which grants her a selectable slot.

Spoiler

he was joking

 

[Moonlight]

This is absolute bullshit.

Lucina can't have more than one kid!!!

 

[Loco4Coco]

He specifically stated in the description of the PotD's that she's not an alternate costume, she has a size and ability variant from Marth, which grants her a selectable slot.

I think that was sarcasm.

 

[BGBW]

Pretty much at this point I think everyone from Brawl is coming back except Snake and Squirtle/Ivysaur. Now how about Mewtwo Sakurai?

Mew has to be confirmed first.

 

[Cody_D165]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

 

[OceanBlue]

This is absolute bullshit.

Lucina can't have more than one kid!!!

The implication is more that she's polygamous.

 

[Muzy72]

:lol

Y'all do realize Alberto is parodying some posts from yesterday right?

 

[Major Gripex]

Random #2: There's no way Lucas should be cut now, if we're having clones this close to their original.

Nor Ganon nor Metwo. This opens the door for clone club being back for business.

 

[Videoneon]

[QUOTE="D";121091908]Nah its cool. Guess I was over-reacting. I AM glad she's in but I got Melee flashbacks for a sec haha[/QUOTE]

IMO even with the presence of clones, it's really hard to speculate on who would be getting cut because of a clone's presence. Don't know how high they rank on the ladder of a franchise's necessity, don't know who they're hypothetically competing with within and outside of their franchise, etc.

It's just impossible to know because the actual roster creators aren't going to tip their hand about this kind of stuff anyway. It's too awkward to speculate about so I don't do it.

---

on another note, I would really appreciate if Sakurai would comment on roster size. Need a number!

 

[laoni]

No one cares about that side. ;P

 

[Myn]

Spoiler

he was joking

I think that was sarcasm.

I'll see myself out then

 

[Grakl]

Right, I think you missed the trailer, though. It had "?!" in her character introduction, which confirms my theory.

actually, it doesn't confirm it, but let's not make assumptions. she could be an alt, or she could be a clone that's basically an alt so you're right anyway -- who knows!

 

[Loco4Coco]

You guys better take it easy with these jabs towards Beezle, I think that one guy already got banned who said "I hate you".

 

[Not]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

hehe

 

[Spinluck]

I can't believe Sakurai and his team made a last minute trailer, and took out Chrom last minute just to get one up on the leaks.

 

[Professor Beef]

someone check her butt

as someone who has spoken to a japanese guy for a couple seconds, there's one thing that was clear that the japanese know about: butt definition

if lucina and marth share a butt design, we'll have our answer

 

[sorakirosaki]

IMO even with the presence of clones, it's really hard to speculate on who would be getting cut because of a clone's presence. Don't know how high they rank on the ladder of a franchise's necessity, don't know who they're hypothetically competing with within and outside of their franchise, etc.

It's just impossible to know because the actual roster creators aren't going to tip their hand about this kind of stuff anyway. It's too awkward to speculate about so I don't do it.

---

on another note, I would really appreciate if Sakurai would comment on roster size. Need a number!

honest question but has sakurai ever commented on roster size outside of lol vauge numbers? also honestly im hoping the roster is around 48-50 anything more and i think it would be kinda ridiculous imo (not fond of 52+ roster)

 

[Hours Left]

We should just put him in his swimsuit and get it done with. That's what everyone really wants.

 

[Grakl]

We should just put him in his swimsuit and get it done with. That's what everyone really wants.

tru

partial nudity

 

[sorakirosaki]

tru

partial nudity

swimsuit dlc we going full doa now

 

[Durden77]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I mean, let's go over the evidence, because it's nothing if not incredibly convincing and irrefutable. First of all, the "?!" I don't know about you guys, but I've studied English my entire life having lived in America, and I can tell you as an expert that question marks denote many things, including suggestions contrary to statements of fact. So they wouldn't have put that there if not for her just being an alt.

Secondly, every single one of her moves is the same. There's clones and there's clones, you know? Whereas Roy would be Solid Snake, Lucina is Solidus, she's exactly the same in every single way. It's so similar, I believe that even Sakurai is confused. He probably created her as an alt but, as we know, doesn't speak english, so his explanation doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. The part about the sword difference also doesn't make sense, because as we established already, she's just an alt costume, so that's further evidence Sakurai doesn't really know what he's talking about.

I'm just saying, I've played a lot of Smash Bros. so I'm pretty sure I know when something smells fishy and this reeks of the ocean.

Agree. Especially about the ocean.

 

[Xpike]

swimsuit dlc we going full doa now

jiggle physics for chrom's sword

 

[Astarte]

So Lucina married...multiple Morgans?

 

[Boss Doggie]

Who do you think was saying all those fish and bug puns the whole time?

omg

I thought it was a disjointed narrator

 

[Kriken]

I hate to present this possibility, but do you guys think Sakurai is wrong about Lucina and she is actually an alt? Maybe he doesn't know yet, even?

I think you're right, I mean how much does Sakurai actually know about his own game? This is very fishy indeed

 

[Hours Left]

CHROM BUTTS IN!

 

["D"]

I feel like Lucina could have gotten her own different animations to take away the sting of people like me who initially assumed she was "a wasted slot". Although I now know she isn't, it would at least look better asthetically for her to have her own movements. Especially with her wielding the

Spoiler

Exalted Falchion

Since she's the girl swordsmen of the group, I could imagine her being graceful like Zero Suit Samus...with flips and cartwheels and twirls in her attacks but in effect they still function like Marth's.

She would still be a "Marth clone" but at least visually its more believable that she's her "own character" instead of being lazy and changing some properties to the moveset but keeping the same animations.

 

[Loco4Coco]

^^That's not Tharja.

 

[kuroneko0509]

This is absolute bullshit.

Lucina can't have more than one kid!!!

She can in the game

 

[laoni]

We should just put him in his swimsuit and get it done with. That's what everyone really wants.

Hear hear!

Mark of Naga needs to be plastered on all the guys' butts.

 

[Crocodile]

I still laugh seeing this gif after so many hours. I expect a good future for it.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

[QUOTE="D";121092748]I feel like Lucina could have gotten her own different animations to take away the sting of people like me who initially assumed she was "a wasted slot". Although I now know she isn't, it would at least look better asthetically for her to have her own movements. Especially with her wielding the

Spoiler

Exalted Falchion

Since she's the girl swordsmen of the group, I could imagine her being graceful like Zero Suit Samus...with flips and cartwheels and twirls in her attacks but in effect they still function like Marth's.

She would still be a "Marth clone" but at least visually its more believable that she's her "own character" instead of being lazy and changing some properties to the moveset but keeping the same animations.[/QUOTE]

No

 

[Hours Left]

^^That's not Tharja.

Who-ja?

Male flesh is the new thing, get on-board.

 

[Videoneon]

honest question but has sakurai ever commented on roster size outside of lol vauge numbers? also honestly im hoping the roster is around 48-50 anything more and i think it would be kinda ridiculous imo (not fond of 52+ roster)

He's kinda gone back and forth. Early in interviews regarding Smash 4 he'd stress quality over quantity, balancing concerns with high roster counts, and the idea that he wasn't going to go much higher, if at all, than Brawl's roster count.

But now we have Lucina and we are very obviously going past Brawl's count. At the same time the expectations have to be tempered because apparently before Brawl came out people were so certain it was going to be more than 35 and then 35 it was.

And I'm actually on the exact same page as you as far as roster count! I don't even want DLC characters, just relegate that to costumes or cosmetic junk. I'd rather lose Isaac.

 

[Richie]

[QUOTE="D";121092748]I feel like Lucina could have gotten her own different animations to take away the sting of people like me who initially assumed she was "a wasted slot". Although I now know she isn't, it would at least look better asthetically for her to have her own movements. Especially with her wielding the

Spoiler

Exalted Falchion

Since she's the girl swordsmen of the group, I could imagine her being graceful like Zero Suit Samus...with flips and cartwheels and twirls in her attacks but in effect they still function like Marth's.

She would still be a "Marth clone" but at least visually its more believable that she's her "own character" instead of being lazy and changing some properties to the moveset but keeping the same animations.[/QUOTE]

But at that point you defeat the benefit that a "clone" character brings to development time, no?

 

[ArchedThunder]

[QUOTE="D";121092748]I feel like Lucina could have gotten her own different animations to take away the sting of people like me who initially assumed she was "a wasted slot". Although I now know she isn't, it would at least look better asthetically for her to have her own movements. Especially with her wielding the

Spoiler

Exalted Falchion

Since she's the girl swordsmen of the group, I could imagine her being graceful like Zero Suit Samus...with flips and cartwheels and twirls in her attacks but in effect they still function like Marth's.

She would still be a "Marth clone" but at least visually its more believable that she's her "own character" instead of being lazy and changing some properties to the moveset but keeping the same animations.[/QUOTE]

The thing is that giving her unique animations for attacks that are exactly the same would have been costly, time consuming and a waste of both time and money when they can just use Marth's. So far it looks like Lucina took very little effort to put into the game so she likely had next to zero impact on the development of the game. Having her use the same animations as Marth gives the animators more time to work on new characters while also increasing the roster by one.

 

[Not]

CHROM BUTTS IN!

hahaha oh man. awesome