Zalusithix
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The light is coming from the sun on the other side of the car at a pretty steep angle. Technically he shouldn't be casting a shadow on the car.
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Digital Foundry: Face-Off - The Last of Us PS3 vs. PS4
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The light is coming from the sun on the other side of the car at a pretty steep angle. Technically he shouldn't be casting a shadow on the car.
Oh the 60 fps is why I'm renting from gamefly. I'm just not sure how that translates to "going above and beyond." I'm like the 4th person in the thread that has said the same thing.
So it has to be true, right?
I do wish they had gone a bit further with the remaster. I'm still looking forward to picking this up today as it's a great opportunity to finally get through the game (the story and presentation were pretty great, but in a lot of little ways, the gameplay fell short for me, I think I lost interest right at the beginning of "fall"). Despite that, it seems the general conesensus is that it looks good, but everyone was expecting it to look a little better.
Regardless, today is a good day in gaming. New hearthstone content, new trials content, this. Glad I've got the day off.
Regardless, today is a good day in gaming. New hearthstone content, new trials content, this. Glad I've got the day off.
ethomaz
Banned
That what resolution does... and people thinks it is fine to stay on 720-900p... aways 1080p for me this gen.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
No, it's the ambient light shadow, not the direct light shadow. It should be there due to light being cast onto a character from wherever it's reflected from around him. Try placing yourself close to a wall and see how wall becomes darker next to you, even if there's no direct light shining onto you.
It means we all disagree with the statement that this port is above and beyond, that's all. It's alright that you are enjoying the game. Take a deep breath.
ethomaz
Banned
Just compare with other ports/remasters... it is not suppose to be a remake.
For example: TLOU delivered a way better performance than Tomb Raider even when they already had a PC game to work and port to PS4/XB1 (it was a easy port).
You need to compare with others remasters... TLOU set a new quality bar in the industry for ports/remasters (yeap this was write in some reviews).
Zalusithix
Member
I'm aware it's ambient, but with the primary direct light source coming from the other side at that angle, combined with his distance from the car, he shouldn't be affecting the light on the car at the top to any significant degree (at least not to PS3 levels). The light from the sun would hit him and bounce off and provide around the same lighting that the reflections from the environment would. If his shoulder/arm was closer to the car, or he was not being directly lit, it would be a different story.
Performance-wise, sure TLOS:R looks to be better than Tomb Raider, but Tomb Raider had far more actual asset enhancements.
Saying TLOS sets a new bar in the industry for remasters is just more hyperbole on a forum that is well known for ND hyperbole.
its a fucking upres port its the least they could do
TheKastorian
Member
Sweet! Can't wait for the game to arrive in my mailbox.
They did not. 1080p/60fps was the bare minimum in terms of expectations for me.
They even had to remove stuff to even hit that.
Check the other thread. Numerous issues were pointed out, as well as the AO.
Wouldn't be surprised to see other discrepancies crop up.
Other than Lara's new model, I was under the impression that they just used the assets from the superior PC version.
WOW at the difference between 60FPS shadows and 30FPS shadows:
To be fair that's only when a shadow is cast from an object close to the wall it casts it on.
Whenever it's a little further from it, you don't get that kinda stuff at all.
I don't quite understand your post. What is the least? Everything they did is the least? The post you're replying to says almost nothing.
I, for one, am glad of that. Imagine the backlash if they spent more resources than what they did getting this done? Probably would be even greater than we're seeing here.
It's ND, so there was always going to be more scrutiny applied than any other developer out there. It's what happens when you're literally the best in the world and first party on top of that.
Technical mess is too harsh of a term. It's simply disappointing.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I agree that the effect was unnaturally strong on PS3, so it's not a bad thing that they dialed the opacity down for the remaster. I was just worried that it was completely missing.
really ? they did not go up and beyond because its not a big improvement considering the ps4 is such a great piece of hardware and naughty gods are the bestest of the world according to forum members
1080p60fps was what everyone expected and they did it. i dont see any other substantial improvements and praising them for a simple upres is hilarious
PsihoPerihelion
Member
If it's close to Tomb Raider, then it's more than fine to be considered a 60fps game. Not like New n' Tasty. I love the game but selling that game as a 1080p/60fps title as they did is just wrong, wrong, wrong (I fucking love the game anyways)
To be honest, that sentence just makes you seem like you have some other bone to pick. Why are you so mad just because I ask you to elaborate.
It's not just a simple upres. The article talks about the difficulty they had porting this game. We're in a technical thread, so please stick to what actually happened. They increased the rendering resolution and improved the frame rate over 100%.
I wouldn't consider Tomb Raider a 60fps title. It was 60fps in some areas. In many others, the game ran in the 40's and 50's.
Tomb Raider was a 60fps title like Far Cry 3 was a 30fps title.
ethomaz
Banned
Cyborg am cry,
I'm struggling to see how - at least technically. The engine and code base was optimized solely for PS3 and the Cell architecture. I don't doubt ND comments getting the game on PS4 was hell.
Then the code had to be optimized on PS4 to deliver 1080p/60fps.
I wouldn't say they went above and beyond but they clearly went above a simple port and settle for 1080p/30fps with some sharper textures.
You've got the same game with a big performance boost (double frame rate, much higher resolution and much better assets) how is that disappointing?
Zombie James
Banned
Looking at the framerate comparisons, the 30fps lock would still be a noticeable improvement over the original.
A nice HD and framerate edition, looks a great experience on PS4, but nothing to be over the moon about. especially if you have already played it on the PS3.
I really dont think this was a worthwhile thing for the gamers.
They should of done a crash bandicoot remake or somthing from the PS1/PS2 era
I really dont think this was a worthwhile thing for the gamers.
They should of done a crash bandicoot remake or somthing from the PS1/PS2 era
They can't do Crash, Activision owns it, the Jak games were already ported to PS3, and none of those things would sell as well.
Massive difference.
Something not so recent would of been better., this is good but there time and money would of been better spent remaking something not so fresh in gamers mind.
It is not a remake.
Remakes take time from designers, this was an engineering project, and one that benefits UC4, as it's on the same engine, and now the same platform.
Porting, or remaking, any other ND game wouldn't have served the purpose this did. And if they did this in three years, they'd have to do it cheap or bundle it with other games. The fact it's only a year old means it's inline with 'GotY' editions of games we frequently see.
Also, given Amy Hennig's departure, Druckley are the unchallenged and freshly crowned Kings of Naughty Dog, this release serves to inform owners new to PlayStation what it is that Naughty Dog do.
It looks like a good HD framerate edition.
I wish it was somthing else, Is that ok with you, why are you even replying to me, you The last of us remake defense force.
It's not a remake.
enhanced PS4 edition then, lol.
mysteriousmage09
Member
The fact that they got these results from basically re-coding the entire damn game, in less then a year's time, is really impressive.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
That's generally what happens when you use a higher form of AO. The AO in the PS3 version is too much, but some may say it looks better than a higher quality AO.
Same thing happened in Max Payne 3. When I turned on HDAO (on the PC), the game looked like it wasn't even using AO, but when I turned on regular SSAO, it was dark like the PS3 version.
Don't worry about it guys, it's still there, it's just harder to notice now. AO in real life is also very subtle.
The inclusion of AO really killed the PS3 version. Without it the game would have run solidly at 30 fps on the PS3. Instead it sputters through most of the game at 20-25 fps, and for what? Some barely noticable black blobs on the bottom of the grass patches and shrubbery? Thankfully they came to their senses and toned it down on the PS4 to ensure a better framerate. They should patch the PS3 version to allow you to disable the AO.
Windom Earle
Member
First title that brings me really close to buying a PS4. Will pick this up together will Bloodborne next year.
The text clearly states there is AO.
SolidusDave
Member
WOW at the difference between 60FPS shadows and 30FPS shadows:
For some reason the PS3 shadows look the most realistic to me here
nycgamer4ever
Member
Then go play the PS3 version. No one is forcing you to buy it.
nycgamer4ever
Member
That would make you like, the minority, no?