and $30 a month to play online? I just don't see the mass market going with both consoles, I mean that is half the price of a new game every month. The real problem I see though is Playstation 4 can match XB1 price wherever it goes, as the PS4 is simply cheaper to make.
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Rumor: MS cuts the XO price to 349,99
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and $30 a month to play online? I just don't see the mass market going with both consoles, I mean that is half the price of a new game every month. The real problem I see though is Playstation 4 can match XB1 price wherever it goes, as the PS4 is simply cheaper to make.
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
But the consumer is aware that the lower price bundle does not include kinect. They can even see the kinect bundles in store next to the solus bundles. As undesirable as kinect is to some folks, I think you're discrediting the ability of the average person (especially those who would buy a pricey gaming console) to realize what's included in the box.
Yup. Sony absolutely nailed the timing of requiring ps plus for online. Introduce the charge when you have the hottest product and people will think twice about picking up another console that requires a sub for online.
TheDrowningMan
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If true, I'll definitely buy one of the £199 XB1 + Halo 5 & Collection bundles that will be on the shelves at the end of next year. Unless there's a dramatic - and frankly unprecedented - improvement in sales worldwide, there is essentially no chance that will still be above £200 / $300 by late 2015.
SwiftDeath
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Hmm even if you're talking about both subscriptions that would be $110 a year if you buy at MSRP [which many people never do], that would be ~ $9 a month
Not worth the effort figuring out exactly how they set up their regions for various sites, especially considering when I originally read it I figured it was one of those "leaks" that pop up and are adjusted without them saying a word.
I think it'd be weirder if it was true. I mean, if their "exciting" announcements are just more price cuts, then they might as well be telling everyone that they're desperate. I can't see it. They wouldn't risk the potential PR by announcing it within a few months of the last one going live.
StealthGoblin
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I wonder if this is a country by country basis or whether Xbox One will launch in Tier 2 countries at 349 Euros.
Sorc3r3r
Member
Their box is simply undesirable, the price is not the main issue.
It's a weaker ps4 with a weaker first party output.
In europe, the land that bought ps3s at crazy prices, and mainly helped to close the huge userbase gap with the NA, a price cut would be really losing money for nothing for MS.
They should focus on recovering in NA.
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Deleted member 125677
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I know, I'd just like to see a price war for my own sake
cheaper consoles are nice, and I don't feel any of them are quite worth the asking price just yetdat bloodborne and scalebound in 2015 though
Original Xbox price for Europe went much faster. From € 469 to € 299 in under two months iirc.
wat? 30 bucks a month? Where do you get that from?
zomgbbqftw
Banned
When did $50 per year plus $60 per year become $30 per month ($360 per year).
On topic, good news for Europeans who want an Xbox. I don't think there are many of them and I also don't see Sony reacting to this price cut. There just isn't any need. I also don't see MS extending it to the UK or Ireland because they aren't in the dumps here and taking the price down to £299 here would weigh down on margins too heavily. Xbox still needs to prove it can make money to the corporate heads on the board.
Well to be fair, this is the first real price cut, before was just bundling of games and unbundling of kinect...
Why? You always take the personal risk of missing price cuts and special offers.
I bought the system at launch for 499 and I don't feel offended at all since I've got hundreds of hours of entertainment for my money.
Brad Grenz
Member
Yeah, I have been saying since the Kinectless price "drop" was announced that it undermines their ability to make further price adjustments. If there is going to be a new price every few months it just reaks of failure and encourages people to wait for real close out pricing on the horizon.
intheinbetween
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iirc, this would be the first price cut
Something is up, just visited and it loaded the source code instead of the site (UK) 
so is this happening for real?
Solaire of Astora
Death by black JPN
Yeah. I think I pounced after the second price cut. Got a GameCube the same day and replaced my broken ps2 the day before. It was good having so much money to burn back then.
StealthGoblin
Banned
They must be losing money on each box with that price. That and they must have an expensive stack of unused Kinects somewhere too.
I believe it may be a mistake.
The reason is that 349 is the price in pounds. So probably the one that made the spanish page (who is probably the same that made the British one) simply swapped the pounds with euros, but forgot to swap the 4 with a 9.
I'm pretty sure microsoft knows that dropping the price now would make those that just bought the kinectless version 2 months ago very, very angry,
The reason is that 349 is the price in pounds. So probably the one that made the spanish page (who is probably the same that made the British one) simply swapped the pounds with euros, but forgot to swap the 4 with a 9.
I'm pretty sure microsoft knows that dropping the price now would make those that just bought the kinectless version 2 months ago very, very angry,
Because I'm an early adopter and I like free stuff
But I agree I got my money's worth, still I want more free stuff!
Wow. And that's a pretty hefty price cut as well.
Lol, that's some error. That's more far fetched than the actual price dropping.
Chû Totoro
Member
edit: stupid me
Something is up, just visited and it loaded the source code instead of the site (UK)
That's just weird. How on earth could an error like this have anything to do with a price cut. Even if they were trying to hide it while they were changing it, it still would have the picture link in the source.
Mushroomer25
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I think that anybody who actually inquires about buying a ONE will quickly realize the difference. But from a consumer perspective, somebody who's just absorbing the advertising message - you have two messages. The ONE, which is advertising itself as a progressively cheaper option - and the PS4, which has maintained value.
Well, the APU are quite different, and I'd expect GDDR5 has more margin to drop than DDR3.
Mysterious
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Chû Totoro;123918881 said:
349, not 449
No idea, just bad timing I guess.
Chû Totoro
Member
Yeah sorry... can't read apparently
It was almost firesale like in the uk before the sku change, places were out doing each other with the crazy offers. It hit as low as £320 for the titanfall bundle.
Mr. Luchador
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Interest rising!
2015 will be the year of Xbox One and Wii U additions to that sweet little shelf on the lovely TV stand.
2015 will be the year of Xbox One and Wii U additions to that sweet little shelf on the lovely TV stand.
we'll see. I think it's easier tho forget swapping a number for a template than to put the right price (assuming it's right) only on one page of the many european ones.
jts
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Yeah but 449 w/ kinect also show that something's up.
349 standalone X1 all but confirmed at this point.
SwiftDeath
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The problem is that while 360 sales were mostly in the US and UK they were not entirely in those regions.
Of the 84M WW or so 360 sales it's something like
US: 41.5M -> 49.5%
UK: 8.8M -> 10.5%
That still leaves ~40% , or 34M 360 sales in regions other than the US and the UK
If you look at the German sales
PS3/360 Ratio is around 63% PS3 | 37% 360
PS4/XB1 Ratio is around 76% PS4 | 24% XB1
So its clear Xbox is losing ground in Europe relative to last gen and it's also clear that MS wanted to at the very least maintain their marketshare however much smaller it was than playstation
So I can see why MS might be keen on trying to stop the bleeding of their marketshare even in countries where they historically don't perform as well as the competition