LUFTRAUSER
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I wonder how this will affect the people who bought the console back when it was 500$.
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Rumor: MS cuts the XO price to 349,99
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Dragonborn
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I'm sure those people now know never to buy an MS console at launch again. Nothing much other than that.
ValeYard
Member
I think by now, it's difficult to complain about a price drop. If the price stays the same, it could end up hurting the console's install base, so even as a day one purchaser, I think they should drop that price already.
Sony is in a much stronger position and only needs to do stealth price drops through bundles for the moment.
Edit: and ElTorro is right, that chrome d-pad is sweet
jhmtehgamr20xx
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"Just figured out"? Lol, dude we've been knew this since January.
So do Sony!
LUFTRAUSER
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Dat sweet chrome D-Pad.
I wonder how MS would react if I tried selling chrome D-Pad replacement kits online for 150$.
Netherscourge
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349.99 Euros equals 469.71 US Dollars
LUFTRAUSER
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Yeah, American companies almost never have equal Euro pricing for some reason. I am not sure if it is needed to cover the higher costs of shipping to and doing business in the Eurozone, or if it is simply troubling to see how much more valuable the Euro is than the US Dollar, so they don't have fair prices to avoid it.
In any case, I hope they drop the price here, too. That would make the Xbox One's inferior hardware less relevant.
But prices here (Europe) usually include VAT.
/Thread.
LUFTRAUSER
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Well, perhaps MS will look at how desirable this mistake was to people and maybe make it official. In the mean time, I'm out.
Then why is this price cut a bad thing XD
This price cut talk is absolutely meaningless. If you have to talk about price cuts this early in a product's life cycle, price obviously isn't the main problem, but rather the product itself or the customers' perception of it.
The only price cut that would truly matter (at least in Europe) right now is of a magnitude of at least 50%. MS can't do that, so they have to drastically change their approach to the European market. When people in North America complained about TV, TV, TV, it was at least something they could use, even if they had no interest in it. People in Europe saw that and not only saw a feature they might not be interested in but couldn't even use if they wanted to. Even worse, it showed that MS didn't care at all about the European market by focusing so much on NA only features.
In my opinion to turn around the ship, MS would have to market the X1 very differently in Europe than in NA. It offers less, therefore it should have a lower price and make Xbox Live free to make it attractive as a second console, because it simply won't be the primary console of people in Europe, at least not for the foreseeable future.
The only price cut that would truly matter (at least in Europe) right now is of a magnitude of at least 50%. MS can't do that, so they have to drastically change their approach to the European market. When people in North America complained about TV, TV, TV, it was at least something they could use, even if they had no interest in it. People in Europe saw that and not only saw a feature they might not be interested in but couldn't even use if they wanted to. Even worse, it showed that MS didn't care at all about the European market by focusing so much on NA only features.
In my opinion to turn around the ship, MS would have to market the X1 very differently in Europe than in NA. It offers less, therefore it should have a lower price and make Xbox Live free to make it attractive as a second console, because it simply won't be the primary console of people in Europe, at least not for the foreseeable future.
jts
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But if we are going to get this:
A 2 game bundle for 399,99, do you really think the standalone can retail for the same price?
Unless they stop selling the standalone and just increase value with bundles, keeping the same base price, much like Sony did for a while with the PS3 at least.
A 2 game bundle for 399,99, do you really think the standalone can retail for the same price?
Unless they stop selling the standalone and just increase value with bundles, keeping the same base price, much like Sony did for a while with the PS3 at least.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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You mean this fake price cut? B/c of reasons specified clearly on the previous page by myself, NHale and others. You have to think deeper.
Dropping xbl fee in europe would be big
Can you imagine the backlash if Europeans could play multiplayer for free while Americans couldn't? That would be a huge PR nightmare...
You said it was because it means the Xbox One isn't healthy. But you already knew that! This is supposed to fix it!
jhmtehgamr20xx
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No, it's more like performing another surgery on an open wound that's still in the middle of healing from a previous injury.
We also have free healthcare and no one in the US cared
Quadraphonic
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Maybe first official. Retailers have been discounting them for a while just to move inventory.
Neuromancer
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It may not be a price drop per se but the Madden bundle should move some units.
Exploratory
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Lol are you serious or are you joking?
intheinbetween
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which one is the first price drop? the kinectless SKU?
Not in europe.
Or this people don't care because they have their month of fun ? I'd rather see a decrease in price than a funeral ? Wii U price haven't drop during it's first months has not cause great success ? I 'm sure a lot of us Wii U owner would have not care if that means better support and sales for the platform.
...You're just looking for problems. Consumers complaining about a cheaper console.
#OnlyonNeogaf
Well they still have Kinect
Also buying at launch you always get the worst price / possible faulty hardware / no bundles ect. - Has been for every console launch.
That´s the price for getting your console earlier
Backfoggen
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You can already get an XB1 for around 370 in Germany. Same for PS4.
serversurfer
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Sorry, I'm not even sure what language that is, but that does say that MS are offering interest-free loans to prospective XBone buyers, in addition to two free games?But if we are going to get this:
A 2 game bundle for €399,99, do you really think the standalone can retail for the same price?
Unless they stop selling the standalone and just increase value with bundles, keeping the same base price, much like Sony did for a while with the PS3 at least.
Edit: I see a lot of percentages in there. I thought the headline basically said 20 Euros for 20 months. What's it really say?
jhmtehgamr20xx
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I love how you continue to dwindle this down into such simple terms.
Again, go read those posts; it's the image of brand health being painted by those actions that's the problem, not the price drops themselves (as if in some sort of vacuum).
How healthy a brand looks isn't important. It's like when a politician reverses a decision and people complain that it looks weak. No, it isn't a legitimate complaint.
i really couldnt care less
ive had the console since launch and had a lot of fun.
tldr: prices drop, this one just dropped faster
hydrophilic attack
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Well not really. They said the listing of the price was an error and were working to fix it. That would have been the case if they will lower the price at a later time but don't want to announce that just yet, as well. A very stupid error, to be sure, but still en error.
They should have known what they were getting into. Anyone could have seen this coming. The writing has been on the wall for over a year.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Stop kidding yourself. When it comes to tech brand image is very important. Almost as important as the quality of the product itself. You think people buy iPhones just b/c they're good? No, they also buy it b/c of the "coolness" of the Apple brand and the stability that brand and their products seem to bring to consumers and developers.
By your reasoning, Sega would still be making hardware today. Dreamcast was a great console, I wonder why it wasn't enough?
Oh yeah, b/c Sega had decimated their brand's image in the public eye years earlier, that's why.
RoyalLaFlame
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Yup. That's exactly it: 20 for 20 months with two games.
Oh and it's portuguese.
metareferential
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10/10
But trust me, it's about gaming online on consoles: there would be riots in the streets. xD
Coulomb_Barrier
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Went from £429.99 in UK to £399.99.
You said you never bought a 360, so it can be inferred that you probably won't get an X1 too, to come in here and claim you never bought both and plan on buying neither, which now disregards the contextualisation of the price drop (the topic of the thread), amounts to you saying you don't like Xbox and a price drop doesn't matter, so in the end you're just stating an opinion that bears no relevance because your mind is set either way.
Honestly I don't really see how MS is going to save the Xbone in Europe. Xbox is relatively weak brand there anyway, combined with the hangover from the disastrous PR, and the fact that the markets worldwide clearly don't think there's much value there, I don't see it being anything other than an anaemic second place in EU; third perhaps if Wii U has a renaissance.
The issue is more than 'having good games', or even 'more than PS4'. That argument is basically irrelevant, I think, because having a single better game this holiday season, or even two marginally decent games, is not going to offset all of the other stuff. Perhaps this would be a different story if PS4 had absolutely no games, but it doesn't.
It's difficult to says what MS will do; whether they'll 'soft' abandon Xbone in mainland Europe (that is, not focus on it at all, or push it) to save money there and concentrate their efforts in markets where it has at least a decent-ish level of market interest or whether they'll put a lot of time and effort into trying to turn the situation around.
The issue is more than 'having good games', or even 'more than PS4'. That argument is basically irrelevant, I think, because having a single better game this holiday season, or even two marginally decent games, is not going to offset all of the other stuff. Perhaps this would be a different story if PS4 had absolutely no games, but it doesn't.
It's difficult to says what MS will do; whether they'll 'soft' abandon Xbone in mainland Europe (that is, not focus on it at all, or push it) to save money there and concentrate their efforts in markets where it has at least a decent-ish level of market interest or whether they'll put a lot of time and effort into trying to turn the situation around.
Neuromancer
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Considering they let go a good deal of the Europe Xbox team, I think they're going for the first option.
#OnlyonNeogaf
PetriP-TNT
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I just read today that XBONE is launching in Finland early next month with a 529 price tag :lol