No, positional tracking makes puking less of an issue. So does the improved image responsiveness / lessened motion blur of higher Hz and display strobing.
Since this apparently has neither, I expect a lot of reports of nausea (similar to DK1).
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Samsung announces Gear VR Powered by Oculus
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Since this apparently has neither, I expect a lot of reports of nausea (similar to DK1).
Me, from several months ago:
I'll take my commission in used notes, Samsung/Oculus.
"Wtf am I looking at"
I need this to happen yesterday.
They don't need to. The FOV can be dictated by the lenses within the casing, and software implemented on the phones screen itself.
If Samsung can get this working with all of their new phones, not just the Note 4 specifically, it'll really change the game and put VR on the fast track to being mainstream, I think.
You are quite the outlier, sir.
You are quite the outlier, sir.
Well, not entirely. You won't ever come close to 180° FoV with a flat display.
Very key part of this article:
"The Gear VR’s initial release is an ‘Innovator Edition’. It’s an early-access, beta-version of the device for developers and enthusiasts rather than a final consumer product."
That's much more reasonable.
Ah OK. That makes more sense. If this was a consumer-level release it would be seriously confusing.
WorriedCitizen
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I'm not convinced by smartphone based VR systems. It's a cool gimmick to play around and get a first taste of VR but nothing more. No headtracking is a huge drawback and then the fact you have to take it out and put back in everytime someone calls you or sends you a message. I guess it's cool as a marketing tool tho to get people interested in buying a proper VR HMD.
They are presenting Gear VR on the stream right now.
fluffydelusions
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Carmac on stage Kreygasm
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
It's from Samsung, the home of cheap "me too!" knockoffs and piss-poor implementation of ideas. No thanks.
Carmack (from Occulus) is on Samsung's livestream now talking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRLy0QQI6xU#t=100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRLy0QQI6xU#t=100
They honestly look to be one of those folks to sell out the second a big stash of cash is around the corner. All those talks about fearing of a company entering the VR bandwagon first purely for commercial reason, and then they do this with no other company than Samsung.
It's hard not to feel Carmack's presence right now at Samsung's conference contradicts what he has been saying all those time.
ScepticMatt
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John Carmack worked one year on this. He said that they use lower persistence, time warping and a custom kernel (hard real time sheduling etc.) to reduce latency (20ms confirmed earlier).
No man. They are 'one of those folks' who have an amazing vision and are happy to partner with big companies who are willing to help advance that vision into a reality.
Probably a disgruntled iPhone/iPad user.
But yea, Carmack's segment was awesome. Very tech wordy, but I personally appreciated that.
ScepticMatt
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I wonder if they are working on inside-out optical tracking.
While you won't get ultra-low persistence, you could still lower the persistence to 4-6ms (down from 16.6 ms). That's double the blur of a DK2, but a huge improvement over DK1.
Yeah, they have a partnership since early this year
Sidewinder
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hmm wouldn't it get pretty hot under that thing after a while using some CPU/power hungry apps?
Good question.
Hands on video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5Liw7lzrw&feature=youtu.be
I would really like it to see movies with it while lying in a bed/on a couch. I wouldnt game with it.
If you get a Note4 a 50-100$ for a wireless private Cinema should be worth it. edit: shouldnt be more expensive than 100$, or?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5Liw7lzrw&feature=youtu.be
I would really like it to see movies with it while lying in a bed/on a couch. I wouldnt game with it.
If you get a Note4 a 50-100$ for a wireless private Cinema should be worth it. edit: shouldnt be more expensive than 100$, or?
I don't believe user will experience any heat, phone is mostly totally opened to air and user is "behind lenses" [it doesn't share same air with the phone].
Lady Siara
Member
Initially, they needed Samsung for their displays. I can see Gear VR fitting comfortably into the Oculus ecosystem. The Rift is for a static experience at home, and Gear is for VR on the go.
I can see where you're coming from but I don't think this is the stage to be worrying about it. For now, Oculus is primarily concerned with getting VR in the mainstream, and this is a great way to go about it.
Michael F. Assbender
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100% serious, and what the fuck does Apple's shit have to do with anything?
You people who argue over phone operating systems are almost as bad as people who argue over which console is better.
Samsung makes cheap shit. Read up on their "first to market" strategy that they've employed pretty much since they opened their doors. They care little for quality, and are all about either entering a marketplace first (regardless of how shoddy their product is), or entering a saturated marketplace and overtaking it by undercutting their competitors in price (and also build quality).
I don't buy Samsung products. And it has absolutely nothing to do with Android or any other bullshit. It's from a long history of dealing with shitty Samsung products.
Phaethon0017
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God, I want something like that just to watch Netflix in bed!
Oh alright.
Engadget leaked every little detail about this VR since a few months back, and they explicitly said that Samsung is making this VR to beat others to the competition.
Samsung is hardly considered visionary, or having much interest in advancing the VR for that matter. Their whole R&D team seems to hinge on rumors and future products that are about to come out. I can show you many examples of what I am talking about.
But hey, I am sure you have made your mind regarding Carmack and Oculus VR, so what I say here may be of little effect.
Gear VR.
The watch is Gear S, or? I think they just call all their Wearables stuff "Gear ..."
Someone on reddit mentioned this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5Liw7lzrw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m5s
You can see a small camera inside the Gear VR. Maybe for IPD measurement?
And that's why you're not very qualified to offer a well formed opinion on their products. It's mostly rambling nonsense. And are you an Apple user or fan? Because if you are, it might explain one of the reasons why you feel the way you do and are as negative in your opinion of Samsung as you are.
The Note, split screen multitasking, Note Edge, this new VR mobile device and countless other software innovations. It's simply ignorant to say Samsung do nothing but offer knockoff me too products, or poor implementation of new ideas.
This is so cool
FunkyPajamas
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Actually, I would kind like to see Apple jumping on the bandwagon just because I know they can make people want this. They can make it look cool, trendy, must-have, etc.
I dont know my friend, but my experience with samsung products is very different than what you write here.
anyway, your prior post was so much extreme that I thought you were joking.
good for you samsung is not a monopoly though
Canis lupus
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Any comparisons with DK2 yet?