Lightning Angel is better than this card. The one mana discount isn't worth the loss in toughness :/
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Magic: The Gathering |OT3| Enchantment Under the Siege
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Lightning Angel is better than this card. The one mana discount isn't worth the loss in toughness :/
Not that I've played Magic at all recently (and so would have the first-hand experience with which to compare), but would there be any explanation for why the cards in this set seem so weak so far? If (as people say) Theros wasn't a particularly powerful set either, is it just that WOTC has misjudged the mark again?
Trying to avoid power creep.
At least the Fetchlands save it from being the next Kamigawa. There's plenty to be previewed so hopefully they're saving the best for last.
That logic has never worked out for me in the past. I was thinking about grabbing a few boxes of this but... I dunno now.
Champions of Kamigawa is one of the best limited sets they ever made, right up with RoE and Innestrad. This doesn't look close to the goodness that was CHK limited
pelicansurf
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Not bad. Pretty good for just smashing face, putting in your hand to avoid destruction and keep repeating.
This is really good, right?
Nikodemos
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Seems to me less useful than the mantis rider. Though I'm more of an aggro player.
Yup.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
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I'm now confident in saying that Tusker used to be something very different, and had to be killed at the last possible second, and considering last second changes tend to lead to the most broken cards, they made it as safe as humanly possible (to the point where in NWO it should be an uncommon, if not common)
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Whelp I like this
It could even have been something as simple as having built in Lure or text like "target creature blocks it alone this turn, if able", which would have made it pretty good. Or it could've started out as a 6/6. And then it just got nerfed into oblivion for some reason.
I'm picturing something like "we have to have this set final in the morning, we need a new card for this slot before we leave work today, and it's already 3PM".
No IDEA why they are making it a precon deck promo card though.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
There are going to be some super ridiculous small white decks, those abzan soldiers (or whatever) are going to be using this as part of the rotation. Holy hell.
Ouh I was talking mostly about value and constructed. Kamigawa's limited was amazing.
This seems super bad to meWell that is certainly expensive. Being an Instant might make it work?
Cosmo Clock 21
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Plays super well with Heroic too.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
This is literally meant to be paid via delve, so it's a 4-drop instant that will put in 4 2/2s down if you have 8 cards in your gy, etc. It definitely is super shitty, but whatevs!
Well that is certainly expensive. Being an Instant might make it work?
I might try this in a vintage ritual deck.
phazedplasma
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I hope heroic STD is a thing, but I'm not sure I can see it happening.
The best heroic deck I've seen is an Azorious Agro deck that uses bioshift, nivmagus and hidden strinrgs.
That's it? Not even draw?
BUG control really doesn't need the help.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well that is certainly expensive. Being an Instant might make it work?
Its exactly what I said it was, except they come into play tapped. This is a very weak set.
I assume you mean global enchantments. Theros had tons of auras and enchantment creatures. They purposely held back on global enchantments during Theros block.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This just seems like a very low powered set. Like, less powerful than Theros.
Wait until the Eldrazi show up in Fate Reforged.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't get why people on the internet are acting like Empty the Pits is some kind of cool win-con. You basically are never able to cast that card due to the stupid mana requirements, you have to be running a delve deck for it to be good enough to win you the game and you can't cast it more than once thanks to the way Delve works, e.g. your entire deck folds to dissolve.
Urborg makes it castable. Also it is fun to believe.
Doesn't the ascendency play well with Delve? Between this enchantment and Jace 5.0, filling your graveyard should be easy.
I actually really like this card. I don't think it'd have a place in my cube, but I love mirri's guile and this is kinda a more utility version. Obviously way more mama, but its a cool effect.
SigmasonicX
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The other tri-lands, BTW, with full art.
Bivouac?
noun: bivouac; plural noun: bivouacs
1. a temporary camp without tents or cover, used especially by soldiers or mountaineers.
Anyway, Mantis Rider is better than Lightning Angel because it's a guy riding a mantis. Icy Blast seems useful, but really boring as a rare. Savage Knuckleblade is pretty neat. You can cast it for 3 early and attack with it, then return it to your hand if there is a threat, then cast it again hasted. Empty the Pits is a bit boring, but if there really are good ways to fill up your graveyard, it could be effective. Hardened Scales is neat. Sultai Ascendency is really boring, but is also probably more useful than it first seems.
Bivouac?
noun: bivouac; plural noun: bivouacs
1. a temporary camp without tents or cover, used especially by soldiers or mountaineers.
Anyway, Mantis Rider is better than Lightning Angel because it's a guy riding a mantis. Icy Blast seems useful, but really boring as a rare. Savage Knuckleblade is pretty neat. You can cast it for 3 early and attack with it, then return it to your hand if there is a threat, then cast it again hasted. Empty the Pits is a bit boring, but if there really are good ways to fill up your graveyard, it could be effective. Hardened Scales is neat. Sultai Ascendency is really boring, but is also probably more useful than it first seems.
The question is does this do enough to justify a difficult 3 CMC (And i'm prettttyyyyy sure the answer is no)
platypotamus
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What sort of multicolor numbers does the rest of cube GAF have going for their cubes? I have a fair sure of two color spells, but I am not sure I want to introduce any tricolor spells into mine...
Depends on the theme of the cube. In something like a multiplayer/commander cube, 3-color spells are fine since games are likely to go long anyway and there should be plenty of fixing. Otherwise, I personally try to avoid 3-color cards if I can. If I were to add gold cards with more than 2 colors, it'd likely try to keep it to 1 or 2 cards per shard/wedge.
In a normal cube (i.e. not multicolor themed or focused) no more than about 10% (give or take a bit) of all the cards should be multicolor
Mine's nearly half, but that's the gimmick.
This will probably find a place in my edh deck. I'm the reason why they make cards like this!
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