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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT| It's out in Japan

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Pyrokai

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Yo, Dark Samus is a recurring monster, not a version of Samus.


I know! Two dark characters might be too much though.

Why should Pit get all the fun? Dark Link and Dark Samus for Smash 6. And Dark Mario. And Dark Kirby.

this is all they will be have left to add because the most wanted characters like Dixie and Ridley will be DLC for 4/5 and NOT withheld for 6, dammit!!!
 

JediLink

Member
Shadow Queen is to Peach what Dark Samus is to Samus.

EDIT: Obligatory relevant Brawl in the Family:

2012-10-26-443.jpg


Alt:
Not pictured: Darnkey Karng, D.R.O.B. and Darth
 
I knooow, I know, but no one will really see it that way. Look at how everyone whines about Dark Pit being just another Pit when he's actually his own character. It won't matter to anyone, lol.

"COME ON, SAKURAI. THREE SAMUSES AND NO RIDLEY? YOU SHOULD JUST RETIRE AND LET SOMEONE MORE COMPETENT TAKE THE HELM!!one!1"

Yeah but Dark Samus is a way more interesting character and has a more unique moveset.
 

Jawmuncher

Member
My biggest issue with Dark Pit is that he is a clone in every sense of the word.
Black Hair and Black Wings is all that he has different in terms of appearance that are very noticeable. If he would have been designed to wear some armor or something I wouldn't have cared at all.
 
Yeah but Dark Samus is a way more interesting character and has a more unique moveset.

Potential. Dark Pit had a unique moveset too, but he ended up as nothing but a clone with only a Final Smash and victory theme to call his own. They could easily pull the same thing with Dark Samus. It's why I'm a bit apprehensive on actually wanting her as a fighter. Yeah, her AT moves are pretty indicative of what she could do, but I wouldn't get too hopeful about it.

Also, her being more interesting is a bit subjective, lol.
 

This reminds me, a long time ago I had made a comment about how the characters are pretty evenly distributed amongst different time periods/ eras. Again, this was months ago and I had observed some holes that were filled in by Dark Pit, Lucina and others. While I split it up differently going by console eras and not 3-5 year intervals, I do love how All-star split up the time period.

Although I find it curious how well distributed everything adds up. People say a certain character never took the spot of another character but I can't help but wonder if some characters were decided upon due to their time period. The 2007-2013 one in particular were padded with two clones, one of which certainly didn't take that much effort. Not to make a crazy statement like some characters were cut due to being in a specific time period. However, I do wonder if that played a part in the decision process. More so in particular with the clones.
 
I knooow, I know, but no one will really see it that way. Look at how everyone whines about Dark Pit being just another Pit when he's actually his own character. It won't matter to anyone, lol.

"COME ON, SAKURAI. THREE SAMUSES AND NO RIDLEY? YOU SHOULD JUST RETIRE AND LET SOMEONE MORE COMPETENT TAKE THE HELM!!one!1"
"Seriously, another Samus? I'd rather take a freaking Metroid over her at this point!"
 

nerdbot

Member
If we're talking Smash 5 characters, I'm thinkin it'll shake down to:

Lucas/Ice Climbers/Wolf/Mewtwo make a triumphant return
Captain Toad
Inkling
Ridley (I KNOW IT SOUNDS ASBURD but in my opinion, while Ridley was desired leading up to Brawl I think he only really became a hotly desired character in the leadup to Smash 4. The Ridley desire has only gotten super strong very recently, even though it's always been there)
Cranky Kong (highly iconic DKC character, recently playable, fan-favorite with moveset potential, novelty of being the original DK)
Bandana Dee (another big fan-favorite, a great wacky choice that'd also be really fun as hell)
Impa
Tingle
Someone, anyone, from Rhythm Heaven
Chibi-Robo
Takamaru (I don't particularly WANT HIM, I'm not a fan, but I think he'll show up)
 
As long as licensing isn't a problem, I'd like it if they tried to incorporate some more ripped voice assets. Would anyone really mind if the voice samples for Peach's Daisy costume were the ones from Mario Kart, for example? And it's not like cohesion is all that much of an issue - a sizeable portion of the cast has been using the same recordings for over a decade.

At the very least, Sakurai and co. seem to had no problem recycling a lot of Brawl audio (voices, victory themes, even the menu sounds!).

I'm guessing the huge number of characters put those low on the priority scale. :/
 

LaNaranja

Member
Shadow Queen is to Peach what Dark Samus is to Samus.

EDIT: Obligatory relevant Brawl in the Family:

http://cdn.brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/comics/2012-10-26-443.jpg

Alt: [spoiler]Not pictured: Darnkey Karng, D.R.O.B. [B]and Darth[/B][/spoiler][/QUOTE]

Me? :D
 
He could just name it "Prime" and use the final form from MP2 to sort of hide the Samus-ness :p

will never happen though

Yeah... with the AT already being named Dark Samus, I doubt it's something Sakurai would do. Dark Samus just has so much moveset potential judging by her AT alone, and she would make a great addition to the Metroid cast. Too bad it'll likely never happen. Makes me curious as to whether we'll ever get a newcomer for the franchise or not. Seeing that Sakurai is so adamant about keeping Ridley away from a playable status. Pff.
 

Neoxon

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If we're talking Smash 5 characters, I'm thinkin it'll shake down to:

Lucas/Ice Climbers/Wolf/Mewtwo make a triumphant return
Captain Toad
Inkling
Ridley (I KNOW IT SOUNDS ASBURD but in my opinion, while Ridley was desired leading up to Brawl I think he only really became a hotly desired character in the leadup to Smash 4. The Ridley desire has only gotten super strong very recently, even though it's always been there)
Cranky Kong (highly iconic DKC character, recently playable, fan-favorite with moveset potential, novelty of being the original DK)
Bandana Dee (another big fan-favorite, a great wacky choice that'd also be really fun as hell)
Impa
Tingle
Someone, anyone, from Rhythm Heaven
Chibi-Robo
Takamaru (I don't particularly WANT HIM, I'm not a fan, but I think he'll show up)
You act as if there's no chance for DLC.
 

Blizzard

Banned
I think it's been asked several times in the thread with no answers that I've found, and I asked in Makai's stream but still don't have 100% confirmation:

  • Do the Mii characters come with all custom moves unlocked, unlike normal characters?
  • Does Palutena come with all custom moves unlocked, unlike normal characters (stream viewer said yes to this but additional confirmation would be nice)?
  • I know you can't use Mii characters in For Glory. However, can you use Palutena's custom moves in For Glory, unlike normal characters?
 
So if every applicable character had gotten a dark version, we'd have

Mario - Cosmic Mario
Luigi - Cosmic Luigi
Peach -
Shadow Peach
Bowser - Dark Bowser
Yoshi - Boshi
Pikachu - Dark Raichu
Pichu - ^
Jigglypuff - Dark Wigglytuff
Mewtwo - Dark Mewtwo
Charizard - Dark Charizard
Squirtle - Dark Blastoise
Ivysaur - Dark Venusaur
Link - Dark Link
Zelda - Puppet Zelda
Ganondorf - Nightmare Ganon
Toon Link - Dark Toon Link
Kirby - Dark Kirby
King Dedede - Possessed Dedede
Meta Knight - Dark Meta Knight
Samus - Dark Samus
Villager - Punk Villager
Pit - Dark Pit
Palutena - Pseudo Palutena
Dark Pit - Darker Pit
Ness -
Giygas
Lucas - Acid Trip Lucas
Captain Falcon - Blood Falcon
Mega Man - Dark Mega Man
Sonic - Shadow
 
How do team colors work for Bowser Jr.? Does being on a different team change the Koopaling? Or does it just put the outline color around the character and you can choose whichever Koopaling you want.
 
So if every applicable character had gotten a dark version, we'd have

Mario - Cosmic Mario
Luigi - Cosmic Luigi
Peach -
Shadow Peach
Bowser - Dark Bowser
Yoshi - Boshi
Pikachu - Dark Raichu
Pichu - ^
Jigglypuff - Dark Wigglytuff
Mewtwo - Dark Mewtwo
Charizard - Dark Charizard
Squirtle - Dark Blastoise
Ivysaur - Dark Venusaur
Link - Dark Link
Zelda - Puppet Zelda
Ganondorf - Nightmare Ganon
Toon Link - Dark Toon Link
Kirby - Dark Kirby
King Dedede - Possessed Dedede
Meta Knight - Dark Meta Knight
Samus - Dark Samus
Villager - Punk Villager
Pit - Dark Pit
Palutena - Pseudo Palutena
Dark Pit - Darker Pit
Ness -
Giygas
Lucas - Acid Trip Lucas
Captain Falcon - Blood Falcon
Mega Man - Dark Mega Man
Sonic - Shadow

Shadow Pokémon is a thing, thanks to Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness where you could steal trainers shadow pokemon and purify them.

Also now that I think about it, no Cosmic Witch reference for Rosalina is disappointing. Also even though it was likely too late, Peach should become Pink Gold Peach when she grabs the metal box item.
 

Fandangox

Member
How do team colors work for Bowser Jr.? Does being on a different team change the Koopaling? Or does it just put the outline color around the character and you can choose whichever Koopaling you want.

Team color no longer forces a color change, instead character outlines will be colored.
 
And all characters unlocked. God bless Ike's Up-B.

Now I can really begin playing lol.

As for new characters for the next game, Pixel/8-Bit Mario is always a possibility.
 

Tenck

Member
Man... I hope 4 player smash online gets fixed in that case. Exactly how laggy is it with 4p?

Just had a flawless 4p match. Maximillian said he didn't get a single 4p match that was good, and I've had nothing but good matches. No stutter like he said.
 
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