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Gravity Falls S2 |OT| Mysteries, tall gingers & endless sweaters (series finale 2/15)
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joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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Great episode. I'm assuming whoever animated the pixel art for Fight Fighters did the same for Giffany (hard G all the way). It looked fantastic.
As an aside, Disney needs to release full season sets of Gravity Falls. I am hoarding all the episodes on my DVR, but it's starting to get unruly.
No kidding, but it was really subtle. Unless you knew what it was a reference to, it wouldn't make much sense. I thought it was hilarious.
As an aside, Disney needs to release full season sets of Gravity Falls. I am hoarding all the episodes on my DVR, but it's starting to get unruly.
Beaniedude
Member
That was quality stuff.
I really enjoyed all of it really.
I really enjoyed all of it really.
Exotoro
Member
That was the great Paul Robertson. Love his work.
Yup, he also did art for the the Scott Pilgrim game and Mercenary Kings. He has a Tumblr where he puts his pixel art, though do keep in mind that some of his stuff is NSFW: http://probertson.tumblr.com/
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
Member
Thanks guys. I should have guessed he did the Scott Pilgrim game as well.
That episode was pretty disappointing (probably a first for me)
At least the spritework was gorgeous?
I loved the joke where Stan makes a comment regarding Soos chance of finding a girl. Slim to none without money. Obviously ridiculous, but not without some truth. In his current state, Soos simply isn't appealing towards women, and that's fine. A lot of people are like that, but what's important is that they don't stay like that. Actual self improvement is a thing. So I thought the episode would deal with self improvement... But nope! Instead, we get Melody, who was pretty much reverse engineered to like Soos. "Oh wow, you like playing on kids rides? You're sooooooo intriguing." Jesus christ, what a hollow, contrived character.
Blergh. I think the episode would have been much more compelling if Soos worked his ass off to be more appealing. Because the message shouldn't be "you should just be yourself" it should be "you should be the best possible version of yourself." As it stands, Soos is literally rewarded for doing nothing. He doesn't take any strides to improve as a person, and that's disappointing.
The dating sim part of the episode was surprisingly generic. Gravity Falls is good at playing with generic tropes and making them fresh (see Double Dipper), so it was more than a little disappointing when Giffany played the generic jealous girfriend trope completely straight. There was sooooo much material to work with here when to dating sims, I was hoping we'd get a bigger look into what the game is like (rather than a few short of scenes)
Blergh. I think the episode would have been much more compelling if Soos worked his ass off to be more appealing. Because the message shouldn't be "you should just be yourself" it should be "you should be the best possible version of yourself." As it stands, Soos is literally rewarded for doing nothing. He doesn't take any strides to improve as a person, and that's disappointing.
The dating sim part of the episode was surprisingly generic. Gravity Falls is good at playing with generic tropes and making them fresh (see Double Dipper), so it was more than a little disappointing when Giffany played the generic jealous girfriend trope completely straight. There was sooooo much material to work with here when to dating sims, I was hoping we'd get a bigger look into what the game is like (rather than a few short of scenes)
At least the spritework was gorgeous?
Well, Soos got friendly with a girl, but it was far from a relationship and he didn't had enough of a impact for her to even think to stay.
I thought Giffany was fine. It surprised me that they had Visual Novels at all in a US show and as such the Yandere was satisfying enough.
I thought Giffany was fine. It surprised me that they had Visual Novels at all in a US show and as such the Yandere was satisfying enough.
Ultimadrago
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Hoagmaster
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Hey guys, go to Google and type in Dipper Pines and see what the first results include. Not what I expected.
Infinite Stars
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But the later isn't on TV...
Fantastic Episode, really looking forward to the next one.
LumpOfCole
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New Giant Bomb Quicklook has unexpected Gravity Falls content toward the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZfZ8JRRYHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZfZ8JRRYHo
MasterOfPastures
Banned
The latest episode was GREAT. This season is excellent so far.
MaverickHunterX
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Hey all! Sorry for the late responses! Thanks as anyways for keeping things up to date.
First things first:
Little Gift Shop of Horrors Synopsis -
and yes, I had the date right, Disney Channel is airing it first on 10/4 while XD is doing it that Monday...
Unfortunately, according to the press release:
http://www.disneychannelmedianet.com/assets/pr\html/pr69409.html
This seems to be the only new GF in October. Keep in mind this only covers regular DC, so there's a chance on XD...I will keep you guys notified.
http://i.imgur.com/8Zi1zUo.gif
(keeping unlinked for spoilers...) Your wish is granted!
Also, have a freebie!
http://i.imgur.com/eiatyUx.gif
I hate those fucking things!
funny as it sounds (thanks for the info on the statue, I had no idea), I actually have seen this guy's work before:
http://markmak.deviantart.com/gallery/
does TONS of cool/cutesy GF arts.
FUN FACT: how did I find him? Truth be told, his works were actually mentioned on GAF before:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42279846&postcount=611
I actually thought it was real, and had my balls busted for it. Oh, well...
Unless I get my DIpper/Mabel/Wendy figures, still not buying. You fooled me once with Infinity 1.0, Disney!
Well, you guys pretty much covered all my notices about the episode, except for:
1.
I get what you're saying, but I think the show was going in a different direction with that argument.
Your second topic (about the waifu) I actually wanted to ask the board about.
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/gravity-falls-soos-and-real-girl-209546
The above link is for the AV Club review of the last episode. (Unfortunately, these are probably the only mainstream reviews that include GF; can't spell ignorant without...)
Anyways, a lot of people find this interesting because the usual reviewer gave this his lowest rating ever for the series, the main complain being Giffany. I consider myself to be a reasonably smart guy, but I'm not sure if I get his point. Is he saying that
Help me out here, GF-GAF...
Yep. Footage was first shown at July's SDCC. On tumblr, one of the artists goes into detail (and seems kinda salty about the comparison)
http://robertryancory.tumblr.com/post/98246233838/gravity-falls-soos-and-the-real-girls-roughs
First things first:
Little Gift Shop of Horrors Synopsis -
In three separate mysterious tales, Stan is cursed by a Witch, Waddles accidentally eats a bowl of brain-enhancing jelly and builds a machine that allows him to speak for the first time, and Mabel faces her fear of Claymotion.
Guest starring is astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson ("Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey") as "smart" Waddles.
Guest starring is astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson ("Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey") as "smart" Waddles.
and yes, I had the date right, Disney Channel is airing it first on 10/4 while XD is doing it that Monday...
Unfortunately, according to the press release:
http://www.disneychannelmedianet.com/assets/pr\html/pr69409.html
This seems to be the only new GF in October. Keep in mind this only covers regular DC, so there's a chance on XD...I will keep you guys notified.
http://i.imgur.com/8Zi1zUo.gif
(keeping unlinked for spoilers...) Your wish is granted!
Also, have a freebie!
http://i.imgur.com/eiatyUx.gif
I hate those fucking things!
funny as it sounds (thanks for the info on the statue, I had no idea), I actually have seen this guy's work before:
http://markmak.deviantart.com/gallery/
does TONS of cool/cutesy GF arts.
FUN FACT: how did I find him? Truth be told, his works were actually mentioned on GAF before:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42279846&postcount=611
I actually thought it was real, and had my balls busted for it. Oh, well...
Unless I get my DIpper/Mabel/Wendy figures, still not buying. You fooled me once with Infinity 1.0, Disney!
Well, you guys pretty much covered all my notices about the episode, except for:
1.
Okay, so Wendy's the voice of reason in this episode. (shrugs shoulders...) Why the fuck not? It's better than nothing at all. I don't even know anymore... However, I thought her reading material was really interesting, considering that she continues to explore it after Stan's "Soos" joke towards her (the second she opened her mouth, I knew that was coming...) (strokes beard in interest) Hmm....
I get what you're saying, but I think the show was going in a different direction with that argument.
To me, it was kinda like something out of "40-Year Old Virgin" in which Soos was perfectly content with his life until his grams brings up the whole "girl" thing, which puts that doubt into his head.
So, if anything, I think you're giving Soos WAY too much credit. Sure, the jealous waifu is a cliche, but you're talking about a guy in which that thing is his first real interaction with a girl. So, when meeting Melody, someone that finds his innocence (for lack of a better word) charming, he instantly gets doubts about that better experience. I'm not going to say that the "better version of yourself" isn't true, but when it comes to dating/romance, there are different variables everywhere. Some people believe in opposites attracts, some vice versa, etc, etc...
Besides, you mentioned "Double Dipper" and wasn't the whole point was that Dipper had to be himself to get closer to Wendy? Hell, those were Tyrone's dying words, so you really can't blame the show for not going back on that point....
So, if anything, I think you're giving Soos WAY too much credit. Sure, the jealous waifu is a cliche, but you're talking about a guy in which that thing is his first real interaction with a girl. So, when meeting Melody, someone that finds his innocence (for lack of a better word) charming, he instantly gets doubts about that better experience. I'm not going to say that the "better version of yourself" isn't true, but when it comes to dating/romance, there are different variables everywhere. Some people believe in opposites attracts, some vice versa, etc, etc...
Besides, you mentioned "Double Dipper" and wasn't the whole point was that Dipper had to be himself to get closer to Wendy? Hell, those were Tyrone's dying words, so you really can't blame the show for not going back on that point....
Your second topic (about the waifu) I actually wanted to ask the board about.
http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/gravity-falls-soos-and-real-girl-209546
The above link is for the AV Club review of the last episode. (Unfortunately, these are probably the only mainstream reviews that include GF; can't spell ignorant without...)
Anyways, a lot of people find this interesting because the usual reviewer gave this his lowest rating ever for the series, the main complain being Giffany. I consider myself to be a reasonably smart guy, but I'm not sure if I get his point. Is he saying that
her one-track mind without any other angle provided is what brings the story down? He goes from tangent to tangent by stating that there should have been a sort of barometer noting the "hits" and "misses" of a relationship, to the lack of complexity, such was the case as the Wendy and Dipper thing in "Into the Bunker"
I dunno. For some reason, it kinda reminds me of the people who try to defend Robbie: "He's misunderstood." "Wendy never took his side when compared to Dipper..." "They would have been fine if Dipper left everything alone..." etc.
On the other hand, I'm like, "...maybe he's just an asshole?"
Does everything have to be multi-layered?
On the other hand, I'm like, "...maybe he's just an asshole?"
Does everything have to be multi-layered?
Yep. Footage was first shown at July's SDCC. On tumblr, one of the artists goes into detail (and seems kinda salty about the comparison)
http://robertryancory.tumblr.com/post/98246233838/gravity-falls-soos-and-the-real-girls-roughs
I don't think so. In any case making
GIFfany multi-layered wouldn't be making any sense. She literally _is_ programmed to be the stereotypical batshit insane yandere. Giving her an actual personality outside of the crazy would be the weird because she isn't actually a person.
Favorite scene of last episodes was the credits.
Animatronics have always been considered terrifying monstrosities, so no doubt it was a coincidence. Regular Show had an episode about creepy animatronics a few years ago as well.
Animatronics have always been considered terrifying monstrosities, so no doubt it was a coincidence. Regular Show had an episode about creepy animatronics a few years ago as well.
Schadenfreude
Member
It's weird that people think that when this show is just Alex Hirsch's childhood on display and animatronic pizza robots are a staple of the past.
Most young people these days probably never saw old-school animatronics in person.
Tizoc
Member
I don't recall ever seeing an animatronic as a kid.
friskykillface
Banned
Oh! That reminds me:
Had to be done.
i was laughing so much at that, really great episode, love Soos and glad he got the W in the end B^)
soos the god
Maybe it was a reference to Octodad? You guys and your damn dirty minds…..
The part with the grandfather not going to heaven was hilarious.
Tizoc
Member
Yeah that too, heck Soos' grandmother is all kinds of weird especially in this episode- "Soos' life is my soap opera"
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Just caught both of the newest episodes.
Loved both of them, I can't believe how much better Season 2 has been to Season 1, and I really liked Season 1. I also somehow am consistently surprised how much they're getting away with. Lots of cool scenes, funny humor, and episodes totally addressing things that were problematic/questionable in the first season.
Loved both of them, I can't believe how much better Season 2 has been to Season 1, and I really liked Season 1. I also somehow am consistently surprised how much they're getting away with. Lots of cool scenes, funny humor, and episodes totally addressing things that were problematic/questionable in the first season.
jediyoshi
Member
Could just be more of an American thing. Chuck E Cheese ran pretty rampant back in the day.
I don't think they were ever brought into our region, never saw them here myself.
Probably. I lived a few years in the US as a kid and so saw them, mostly at Chuck E Cheese.
Werewolf Jones
Gold Member
It was pretty much Me and my girlfriend and her love and Five Nights at Freddy's but with Gravity Falls characters instead. I always think the episodes will end up dumb but end up loving them anyway.
Oh man, that one killed me.
Now someone needs to do this one too
Decided to give this show a shot and spent the last week getting caught up. Just finished the 'Soos and the Real Girl' episode and without a doubt its easily my favorite one from this season, which is pretty shocking as I was skeptical of an episode focused on Soos to be enjoyable (I like the guy, but he has his ups and downs). I loved the dating sim references, the yandere look Giffany gave to Soos before going totally crazy was the best.
Episode 2 would be the runner up, though I'm so bummed about
Episode 2 would be the runner up, though I'm so bummed about
Dipper getting friendzoned by Wendy. Here's hoping she reconsiders, because otherwise I may start praying for a Dipper x Pacifica moment to happen.
MaverickHunterX
Member
Also this is fantastic.
told ya the man did awesome work.
This is one of my favs that popped up recently (different artist though...)
Welcome to the club! Glad you're enjoying the series!
As for your comment (no need for the spoilers, the episode is already a month and a half old...), I've posted a LOT of stuff in this thread (as well of DMPrince's season 1 thread) about it (I can see the other GF-GAFfers rolling their eyes as I write this), so I'll try to make it brief:
Look at it this way, at the end of ITB, Dipper got what he wanted. He didn't ask for a girlfriend; he asked for everything to be okay/him not to end up ignored like Robbie and the other 7-8 exes she had. Granted, any other advancement is halted for the time being(again, not necessarily a bad thing...)
The other thing to consider to is that despite her adult height and adult voice, Wendy is still just a kid herself. I sure in hell didn't know what I wanted in any aspect of life at fifteen. For all we know, maybe she wants something better for Dipper, than to be another person she ends up call-screening for the rest of their lives...
As I said before, the show's not over yet; I'm sure they'll hit this note a few times more...(if I was to guess, I'd say when the time-traveler comes back, if the fore-mentioned "Robbie's revenge" episode doesn't happen first)
Not to go off on a tangent, but the resolution(s) such as the above are kinda worrisome (show-wise) if you think about it...
As stated by other GF-GAFfers, nearly every episode this season has to do with the wrapping up some kinda leftover from season 1.
1. Grunkle Stan is in on the spooky stuffs...
2. Wendy/Dipper thing...
3. Pacifica and Mabel are frenemies now...
4. Mabel (finally) admits she can be a selfish twat at times...
5. Soos takes a step away from being a man-child...
All this is cool and all, but what happens when everything is addressed? Is it going to be just mysteries until the end of the season/series? That's not a bad thing, but consider this: with everything that's happened with Season 1, mixed elements of both the real world and the supernatural helped Dipper (no offense to Mabel, but this is his story) become a stronger person by the time we see him at the Season 1 finale. If everything gets wrapped up before the S2 ending, will we see something of the same effect?
Furthermore, with everything mentioned above, why not go deeper into it? Sure, Stan knows about the hidden stuff of GF, so why not ask him about it? (or my question, what does it mean if he knew about all this dangerous stuff around, and yet, the only time he openly offers to help was the whole "Robbie hypnotizing Wendy" thing? Was it worse that Dipper could imagine?)
Wendy could be another example of this. Okay, they're best friends now, and she wants to go exploring/solving mysteries with Dipper. Awesome! But then why she is left out of the picture in the dark 90% of the time since then (just like Season 1)? Instead, Mabel is halfheartedly there in place of. To me, that's like Batman going on a mission, and instead of asking Batgirl for assistance, he turns to Bat-Mite.
What is the whole point of the GF team doing this if they're not going to use it? With all of the above already happened, I have no idea where they're going from here (Hirsch has said in interviews that the main theme of Season 2 is having
the twins' bond threatened more than ever
Pure salt...that's why you're my boy, Dipper...
They're going to make the pig evil (like
the dog
and more words of wisdom...
fuckin' yes to that last one...
EDIT: extended preview for new episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73M0cjVU3ig
MaverickHunterX
Member
NEW EPISODE ANNOUNCED!
http://www.disneyxdmedianet.com/DNR/2014/Disney_XD_October_Programming_Highlights.pdf
2x07 - Society of the Blind Eye -
Airs 10/27/14 on Disney XD...
Yep, the 4th on DC and the 6th on XD
http://www.disneyxdmedianet.com/DNR/2014/Disney_XD_October_Programming_Highlights.pdf
2x07 - Society of the Blind Eye -
The kids, along with Old Man McGucket's help, discover there is a secret society in Gravity Falls...
Airs 10/27/14 on Disney XD...
Yep, the 4th on DC and the 6th on XD
Ultimadrago
Member
Also this is fantastic.
Hng
Hot Coldman
Banned
I just finished watching Season 1. Then I looked up the codes stuff.
what the fuck
what the fuck
MaverickHunterX
Member
Ultimadrago
Member
"This clever shit is somethin' else." - Me after watching Season 1 and looking up the codes stuff.
I second this wish.
Excellent post and thanks for the warm welcome. Seeing your perspective on Dipper x Wendy made me feel better about their situation.
Pure salt...that's why you're my boy, Dipper...
As mentioned before, hate ships are the best ships!
Choppasmith
Member
Just watched it the other night, one of the best episodes yet. I'm just amazed just how much they push the envelope with Soos's mom's Heaven joke.
Also, saw this on KYM:
Also, saw this on KYM:
Can't wait to see this one and Disney's put out yet another preview for the next episode.
They sure are advertising the hell out of this new episode on both channels.
Schadenfreude
Member
Just watched it the other night, one of the best episodes yet. I'm just amazed just how much they push the envelope with Soos's mom's Heaven joke.
Also, saw this on KYM:
The sheer dedication of the fans, man. It's amazing.
New post on the Gravi-Team Falls tumblr, this time about an upcoming book. Looks like kid-friendly fluff for the most part, but there's a pretty neat looking map too:
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