My guess would be that it has something to do with running the original version at 1920x1080 at the same time while being able to switch back and forth instantly. Maybe scaling horizontally only is better than doing both?
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Halo TMCC Full Campaign Preview (H2A runs at 1328 x 1080 native)
- Thread starter Jessie.Bristol
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EightBitNate
Member
Parity between Xbox and Xbox One
Ah, missed that part. Thanks. What about H2:A multiplayer though?
sturgboski
Member
Obligatory:
Hooray for Weird Al!
RespectThySole
Member
The Order is 800p, isn't it? I don't care about the resolution wars nonsense anyway though.
Halo 2 ran at 480p/30
Woah, Halo 4 looks absolutely awesome, even on IGN's player. Not massively surprising given that it was already gorgeous and just was held back by the 360s resolution, framerate, and AA -- but that is still prettier than I expected.
Weird resolution for the H2A campaign and slightly disappointing -- though I imagine a whole slew of technical bottlenecks are present simply trying to keep the original engine underneath. Considering how much better Halo 4 and H2A multiplayer look than the H2A campaign, I'd genuinely be surprised if it was a console limitation.
Weird resolution for the H2A campaign and slightly disappointing -- though I imagine a whole slew of technical bottlenecks are present simply trying to keep the original engine underneath. Considering how much better Halo 4 and H2A multiplayer look than the H2A campaign, I'd genuinely be surprised if it was a console limitation.
Halo CE Anniversary is running Xbox 360 fidelity assets at 1080p with some rendering and lighting improvements. H2A is running higher res textures, geo, characters and animation AND running the OG engine at the same time.
Yes. This. Who wants to see chunky old Xbox graphics anyway?
no one that's who...
I kept my old school Xbox and Xbox 360... So if I want to see nasty graphics Halo 2, why wouldn't I just go fire one of those up?
People who throw their old consoles away have no right to complain in my totally correct opinion.
Halo 2 Anniversary is running two engines at the same time.
3 and 4 are one game engine respectively, Halo: CEA is running two game engines but with less intensive properties, so they all reach 1080p60fps.
Garrett 2U
Member
Oh well, it'll still look great
Everything else from that preview sounds incredible
Everything else from that preview sounds incredible
The Lamonster
Member
Does this include Halo 2 classic mode as well, or just Anniversary mode?
edit: nvm, answered on page 1. H2 classic is full 1080p. Good stuff!
edit: nvm, answered on page 1. H2 classic is full 1080p. Good stuff!
Well yes, but it is 1920x800, which is a higher res and because of its black bars it maintains native scaling or whatever.
It's 1920x800, which is more total pixels than 900p (1600x900). 800p would be even lower. Because The Order is letterboxed it'll maintain a native scale instead of being upscaled.
Primethius
Banned
Sucks they couldn't make it 1080p but it shouldn't detract me too much as I plan on sticking to the MP most of the time.
It's has the same pixel density as 1080p but is presented in 21:9.
DarthWalden
Banned
it's to bad they included that little snippet about resolution at the end there because there is some solid information in here that is going to be overshadowed.
-in addition to upgrading all the graphics they have also upgraded all the sound effects
-rumble triggers are in except halo 1 and 2s are going to be I included in a patch later.
- forge looks to be in and untouched
This is going to be a great compilation.
-in addition to upgrading all the graphics they have also upgraded all the sound effects
-rumble triggers are in except halo 1 and 2s are going to be I included in a patch later.
- forge looks to be in and untouched
This is going to be a great compilation.
SEGAvangelist
Member
This is my guess too. Makes sense.
No, it's a bit goofier than that because it's actually rendering the black bars, so it is technically 1080p, but the actually playable space is 1920x800. It's not scaling anything, though, since it's meant to be in scope ratio, so nothing is going to get stretched.
Tidus_Great
Banned
ayyyy lmao
When 3/4 of your games in a collection can hit native numbers then that's okay
Not to mention it's running two engines
TheAdmiester
Member
You saying this makes it even more impressive. 2 engines running simultaneously in 32MB is an awesome feat.
So for those of us who don't give two shits about seeing hoe the game looked before get shafted. He's basically saying if we didn't have to accommodate running the old engine we could have hit a true 1080p resolution. I find that pretty lame. You can't tell me a majority of people care about switching back and forth.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
Would it be possible to patch in a toggle for people who want to run just H2A at 1920 x 1080? If not, I'll still enjoy the shit out of the game. Just would be nice to have the option for those of us who want to enjoy the first run of H2A in native 1080p, then possible subsequent runs with the ability to toggle old and new.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Everything except H2A campaign is. I think we've known this for months now.
It's for the instant switch between the old and the new graphics.
It's for the quick-switching between old and new. It's great fan service for players of the original titles on Xbox.
Scaling only in the larger dimension can mean a smaller hit to the overall IQ.
Steverulez
Member
Because they want to give people the option of playing it how it was back in the day or updated to look like a modern release, only way they can do that is by running both, presumably
Caayn
Member
Wasn't expecting H2A to be running at 1080p, it's good to hear that they came close. Wonder if the multiplayer of H2A do run in 1080p.
I for one am glad that the instant switching exist
I for one am glad that the instant switching exist
Ladies and gentleman. A shitpost.
TheAdmiester
Member
Someone said above, it seems that because the original engine runs at 1920x1080 and the new one runs at 1328x1080, it's easier to switch from a ****x1080 to a ****x1080 res than a ****x900 to ****x1080.
justsomeguy
Member
Can anyone explain why the "instant switch" impacts resolution?
surely the code says:
if (engine == Engine.Old)
{
oldEngine.DrawScene();
}
else
{
newEngine.DrawScene();
}
There's no need to render both in a single frame?!
surely the code says:
if (engine == Engine.Old)
{
oldEngine.DrawScene();
}
else
{
newEngine.DrawScene();
}
There's no need to render both in a single frame?!
SEGAvangelist
Member
The old engine runs it at 1080p simultaneously with the new engine at 1328x1080 and the versions can be changed on the fly. I'm guessing the switch from one to the other looks better at the new resolution.
SteveO1683
Member
Put me into the camp that would rather the old vs new graphics switch not be on the fly.