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[Renekton]

If you can't tell the difference, you need to get your eyes checked.

Screw that.

If my eyes get fixed, then I am forced to splurge on a new GPU.

 

[NegativeCero]

I wish they had learned something from the whole Dark Souls on PC debacle. Nothing will stop me from wanting this game, but this kinda sucks.

 

[Kevin]

Supernatural still delivering on epic gifs.

 

[Guerrilla]

I edited the OP with new info....

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

I edited the OP with new info....

Thanks for doing so.

 

[Alebelly]

I got a lot of responses saying people can't tell the difference between these in this specific GIF.

I'm viewing it on Chrome on the iPhone and it's pretty obvious that the left is 60 and the right is 30.

The left should feel smoother or 'sped up' while the right feels a little more choppy and slow.

As 60 fps is more important to gameplay than poorly rendered gifs, you are only perpetuating the myth

 

[Banana Aeon]

At least it was game journalism lying to us, as usual, and not game developers.

Crisis averted.

 

[GorillaJu]

http://vocaroo.com/i/s15bEzNg8b57

The translator left a lot out. It's really hard to hear Mr Yamagiwa's voice there but there are things he says which the translator just didn't mention.

 

[aly]

At least it was game journalism lying to us, as usual, and not game developers.

Crisis averted.

I don't think anyone was lying, but it sounds like some translation errors. Nothing malicious.

 

[Sayad]

Wait, I'm almost positive that isn't true.

Edit: Double post, sorry! Meant to edit.

Haven't missed around with Gifs in years but I'm pretty sure there are browser side limits on how they run, with different limits between browsers(not sure if that's still the case).

Anyway, using chrome, had to really stare at it to tell that the one on the left run at a higher framerate. Saved the gif, opened it in flash, ran the image sequence at 60fps and difference between the two sides is clear as day, it's also clear that it wasn't running at 60fps on my browser.

 

[Joei]

If you can't tell the difference, you need to get your eyes checked.

You guys are so f'n dramatic.

 

[sector4]

Supernatural still delivering on epic gifs.

Haha I thought it was from a scene with Badger I couldn't remember in Firefly That explains why I couldn't remember it, it's from another show haha!

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Well Thanks for that clip. I guess it wasn't really the fault of the journalist who wrote the article, but it was problem with mistranslated. The producer doesn't say 30fps is the best for action game when he speaks about this in Japanese in that clip.

Translator-saaaaaaaannnn!

It's important, and for some, it can determine if you can physically play a game.

Oh christ.

Edit: Saw your comment on this page, that you actually do get migraines from lower framerate. Sorry for being so dismissive. That doesn't sound pleasant at all =\

 

[gundamkyoukai]

so it's a translation issue , well these things do happen.

 

[NullPointer]

You guys are so f'n dramatic.

Its a significant difference. Its like people going to see the Hobbit at 48fps and not noticing anything out of the ordinary.

Yes, it really is"get your eyes checked" territory.

That particular set of Souls Gifs aren't a great comparison though.

 

[Guerrilla]

so it's a translation issue , well these things do happen.

So do we have a correct translation yet? I would update the op with that...

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

So do we have a correct translation yet? I would update the op with that...

Already in talks with Sony PR.

 

[GorillaJu]

Here is what was actually said in the interview:

Journo: "What frame rate and resolution are you targeting?"

Translator: "Resolution and framerate... have you decided these yet?"

Yamagiwa: "The resolution is going to be 1080p. As for the frame rate, well, stretching it to 60, with how this game is.. Demon's couldn't do it either, well I guess we probably won't be able to make it up to 60... It sounds like I'm making excuses but, anyway we're targeting 1080p 30fps.

Translator: "First of all it's going to be ..." (makes up a bunch of shit that Yamigawa didn't actually say, talking about action games being best at 30fps)

Yamigawa (interrupting): "well it's not ... I mean no matter how I say it, it's going to come out like an excuse I'm afraid"

Translator: "well, from the first they are not targeting 60fps because ..." (more conjecture)

 

[Sesuadra]

Translator was payed by Microsoft?

That is really one bad translator.

 

[Derp]

Here is what was actually said in the interview:

Journo: "What frame rate and resolution are you targeting?"

Translator: "Resolution and framerate... have you decided these yet?"

Yamagiwa: "The resolution is going to be 1080p. As for the frame rate, well, stretching it to 60, with how this game is.. Demon's couldn't do it either, well I guess we probably won't be able to make it up to 60... It sounds like I'm making excuses but, anyway we're targeting 1080p 30fps.

Translator: "First of all it's going to be ..." (makes up a bunch of shit that Yamigawa didn't actually say, talking about action games being best at 30fps)

Yamigawa (interrupting): "well it's not ... I mean no matter how I say it, it's going to come out like an excuse I'm afraid"

Translator: "well, from the first they are not targeting 60fps because ..." (more conjecture)

Wow. So blame the translator?

 

[Boogalogist]

Wow. What horrendous translation.

 

[GorillaJu]

I don't think the translator was necessarily bad, I think he just tried to fill in the gaps and didn't realize that even the details and nuances are things that the fan base wants full clarity on.

I've done JP <-> ENG interpretation before and the languages are constructed so differently that it does require a bit of conjecture and filling in the gaps to make a cohesive point. If I had to take a guess I'd say that he's referencing something he heard at another time or maybe a point that was brought up earlier in the interview.

 

[Actionhank]

I am getting tired of developers saying such nonsense. I been playing Bayonetta at 60fps and it wonderful, I tell you what.

 

[Alebelly]

Here is what was actually said in the interview:

Journo: "What frame rate and resolution are you targeting?"

Translator: "Resolution and framerate... have you decided these yet?"

Yamagiwa: "The resolution is going to be 1080p. As for the frame rate, well, stretching it to 60, with how this game is.. Demon's couldn't do it either, well I guess we probably won't be able to make it up to 60... It sounds like I'm making excuses but, anyway we're targeting 1080p 30fps.

Translator: "First of all it's going to be ..." (makes up a bunch of shit that Yamigawa didn't actually say, talking about action games being best at 30fps)

Yamigawa (interrupting): "well it's not ... I mean no matter how I say it, it's going to come out like an excuse I'm afraid"

Translator: "well, from the first they are not targeting 60fps because ..." (more conjecture)

I didn't have to read a second of that to understand the context, I"ve played their games before, and I want nothing from them more than what theyre willing and able to give

 

[Paracelsus]

Everyone is flipping desks, nobody is hoping they back up their word. 30fps? You should pray down on your knees the game is a perfectly stable, DF-approved, rock solid 30fps, now that would be quite good, all things considered.

 

[IndoAssassin]

Or... Maybe he did say that but something got lost in translation or media is twisting words for controversy like they always do.
Hmmmmmm I wonderrr...

So I guess I was right, it was a translation issue. But was the translation issue on purpose or by accident. Hmmmm...Interesting

 

[Alebelly]

Everyone is flipping desks, nobody is hoping they back up their word. 30fps? You should pray down on your knees the game is a perfectly stable, DF-approved, rock solid 30fps, now that would be quite good, all things considered.

Words with according commas doesn't mean you know what the fuck you're talking about, it seems you don't

 

[RexNovis]

It would appear that UbiSoft Foot in Mouth disease is spreading.

Edit:

Here is what was actually said in the interview:

Journo: "What frame rate and resolution are you targeting?"

Translator: "Resolution and framerate... have you decided these yet?"

Yamagiwa: "The resolution is going to be 1080p. As for the frame rate, well, stretching it to 60, with how this game is.. Demon's couldn't do it either, well I guess we probably won't be able to make it up to 60... It sounds like I'm making excuses but, anyway we're targeting 1080p 30fps.

Translator: "First of all it's going to be ..." (makes up a bunch of shit that Yamigawa didn't actually say, talking about action games being best at 30fps)

Yamigawa (interrupting): "well it's not ... I mean no matter how I say it, it's going to come out like an excuse I'm afraid"

Translator: "well, from the first they are not targeting 60fps because ..." (more conjecture)

Wait seriously?!?! WTF? Translator is just straight making shit up?!?! Unbelievable.

 

[Nintendojitsu]

FROM software: *unzips fly*
PS4 owners: It's raining!

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I don't think the translator was necessarily bad, I think he just tried to fill in the gaps and didn't realize that even the details and nuances are things that the fan base wants full clarity on.

I've done JP <-> ENG interpretation before and the languages are constructed so differently that it does require a bit of conjecture and filling in the gaps to make a cohesive point. If I had to take a guess I'd say that he's referencing something he heard at another time or maybe a point that was brought up earlier in the interview.

yeah but this seems to be the case of to much conjecture .

 

[cheesekao]

well, the word "targeting" is right, since the Alpha wasn't even a stable 30 fps.

I feel like a broken recorder but here goes. The horrendous frame rate issues in the alpha are not present in the TGS demo. There are slight drops but not as significant as those in the alpha. The alpha build is pretty old, assumedly E3 old based on e3 previews.

 

[cheesekao]

And why they released an "older" Alpha???

I edited my post. The alpha was for all intents and purposes a stress test to see if their servers are working.
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/09/22/bloodborne-alpha-test-offered-playstation-plus-members-japan/

 

[jpax]

Here is what was actually said in the interview:

Journo: "What frame rate and resolution are you targeting?"

Translator: "Resolution and framerate... have you decided these yet?"

Yamagiwa: "The resolution is going to be 1080p. As for the frame rate, well, stretching it to 60, with how this game is.. Demon's couldn't do it either, well I guess we probably won't be able to make it up to 60... It sounds like I'm making excuses but, anyway we're targeting 1080p 30fps.

Translator: "First of all it's going to be ..." (makes up a bunch of shit that Yamigawa didn't actually say, talking about action games being best at 30fps)

Yamigawa (interrupting): "well it's not ... I mean no matter how I say it, it's going to come out like an excuse I'm afraid"

Translator: "well, from the first they are not targeting 60fps because ..." (more conjecture)

I don't think the translator was necessarily bad, I think he just tried to fill in the gaps and didn't realize that even the details and nuances are things that the fan base wants full clarity on.

I've done JP <-> ENG interpretation before and the languages are constructed so differently that it does require a bit of conjecture and filling in the gaps to make a cohesive point. If I had to take a guess I'd say that he's referencing something he heard at another time or maybe a point that was brought up earlier in the interview.

This should be in the OT.

 

[popyea]

This is what happens when translators operate with a PR angle. It's pretty unfair to the devs mincing their words like that. I mean, who is more qualified to talk about their game?

 

[Sayad]

And why they released an "older" Alpha???

Demos/alpha/show presentation versions are usually worked on separably from the main version of the game. So the alpha could be taken from an older build. They're only testing the net code with it so only that have to be the latest build.

TGS presentation could be from an earlier build, though I'm pretty sure there were framerate issues there too, if not during the main presentation then from some show-floor demos footage.

 

[GIANKRATOS]

As expected...

 

[MagicWithEarvin]

I expected 1080p/30fps after hearing about the frame rate issues and stuff.

 

[Booshka]

This should be in the OT.

TRUTH.

Didn't expect 60FPS, but so long as they are honest about it, I don't have a problem

Fire that translator, trying to PR spin an honest answer.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

That is a pretty big translation fuck up. They need a new translator.

 

[Always-honest]

Sure, for a slow paced game, it's fine

Ow, it was translated poorly?

 

[Guerrilla]

This should be in the OT.

Done

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Okay, the article will be updated soon with an official statement but for now, I think this can go in the OP.

 

[Guymelef]

 

[iRAWRasaurus]

As long as it's 1080p/30fps and constant, I am fine with the 30fps.

 

[emko]

this game will be great at 30FPS better then that non existent 60FPS game

 

[Izuna]

Okay, the article will be updated soon with an official statement but for now, I think this can go in the OP.

But he never said that either! LMAO

 

[Hydrargyrus]

Gaem yournalism

Verry porfessional

 

[AntiFacebook]

Does that mean the inevitable pc version is gonna be locked to 30fps?

 

[Hydrogen Bluebird]

Gaem yournalism

Verry porfessional

Did you even read the OP?

 

[Chance Hale]

Does that mean the inevitable pc version is gonna be locked to 30fps?

Wouldn't call it inevitable at all, Bloodbourne is co developed by Sony Japan like Demons Souls which remains a ps3 exclusive