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Nintendo FY14 Q2: 1.27M 3DS, 0.61M Wii U, 24.2 billion yen profit
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Thanks. Doesn't look like WiiU will surpass that even with holiday figures.
Starwolf_UK
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Shame there never a "of which Wii Mini" in the Wii Shipments section (page 7).
I really want to see them go mad with Nintendo Selects for absolutely no reason but to hit one billion. Come on Nintendo Selects Metroid Prime Trilogy, Kirby's Adventure Wii and Xenoblade, that is 10 sales right there.
It still feels like a rough prototype. You can buy a code then have to enter it at launch to an unfinished/dogfood website (which I'm surprised is still up) for it to automatically download (or you switch on your system and boot up the eShop and enter the code there).
OrangeGrayBlue
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I feel like the Wii U has really had a turn around in regard to public perception since the release of MK8. I wouldn't be surprised to see a really strong performance from Smash onward. At least compared to what we might expect.
cantona222
Member
I'm glad. I don't want Nintendo to fail. Nintendo = video games.
why would shipment numbers have affected that? this doesn't change known sell-through numbers.
cantona222
Member
Wow, I totally forgot about QoL. They said they would officially announce it this year, didn't they? Not much time left.
Welfare
Member
? Sorry just woke up. Explain this.
R
Rösti
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See my earlier post about the matter: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136410973&postcount=142
Mauricio_Magus
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not sure how good this is, but I'm happy that Nintendo is making money.
Except we've never had this ... outside of US and Japan.
but for PAL countries we know that they even retired some units at a certain point (-20K units? could be?), and than they re-shipped. I don't think that retailers would have accepted many units creating a significant gap between distributed and sold through
ScepticMatt
Member
Hmm...
You're still talking about a lot of countries we have no idea about.
shinra-bansho
Member
For reference, known sell-through for the US is 2.77M through September NPD, and 1.92M through September 28th Famitsu, for a total of 4.69M.
Cumulative shipments to the Americas and Japan are 3.43M and 1.97M respectively. Considering Canada and Latin America, the numbers should be reasonably close to sell-through I imagine.
We're two years out from the massive overshipment at launch, sell-through shouldn't be lagging too far behind in Europe/Others either.
Cumulative shipments to the Americas and Japan are 3.43M and 1.97M respectively. Considering Canada and Latin America, the numbers should be reasonably close to sell-through I imagine.
We're two years out from the massive overshipment at launch, sell-through shouldn't be lagging too far behind in Europe/Others either.
My god
They are an hardware manufacturer they can't cut costs too much if they want to stay in this business.
The yen helped them but with 3ds sales rapidly declining and the wii u not going anywhere, how can they keep competing with sony and ms?
This is the best year for wii u where many great games are already out, ps4 and xb1 not yet at full steam and many offers available for wii u buyers.
The yen helped them but with 3ds sales rapidly declining and the wii u not going anywhere, how can they keep competing with sony and ms?
This is the best year for wii u where many great games are already out, ps4 and xb1 not yet at full steam and many offers available for wii u buyers.
Canada ect don't make up that much surely?
There are more ways to stay relevant and making profit, you don´t need to be the most selling manufactor in the market.
JetSetRadio
Banned
This. I have little interest in wiiu, but I definitely want to see another nintendo console.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The Mario Kart quarter. Makes sense. The Smash quarters will also return to profit, boosted by the New3DS in Japan at least as well.
Next year is when things get tricky again, although Nintendo "doing" DLC could help mitigate things.
Next year is when things get tricky again, although Nintendo "doing" DLC could help mitigate things.
I think that because the Wii U has sold mostly to the die-hard faithful that Nintendo is going to see some phenomenal DLC attachment rates. I can't wait until we get some figures for the DLC sales of MK8, Hyrule Warriors and Pikmin 3, if we ever do.
This could be a really good way of Nintendo monetising their hardcore fans, even if I personally hate the idea. Although it's hard to argue with how well they're doing it in MK8, I just long for the days when the disc was the game, and new content came in a sequel.
EDIT: Goddamn it, beaten on the 'DLC carrying the team' point, lol.
This could be a really good way of Nintendo monetising their hardcore fans, even if I personally hate the idea. Although it's hard to argue with how well they're doing it in MK8, I just long for the days when the disc was the game, and new content came in a sequel.
EDIT: Goddamn it, beaten on the 'DLC carrying the team' point, lol.
This was not the Mario Kart Quarter.
They're at least in much better financial shape than Sony, though Sony's PlayStation division, unlike the rest of the company, still makes good money.
Of course, Microsoft makes both of these companies look unprofitable by comparison.
Though I dare say Nintendo's nest egg from the Wii and DS years rivals theirs and at least CEO candidates and investors don't want to torpedo their games business like Microsoft's have threatened to.
Xbox at Microsoft is very much in doubt - it probably will disappear too if Sony goes under, as Sony will probably in the next 5 years go bankrupt. Sony is its main reason for existing. Considering Sony's situation and Nintendo moving to QoL due to problems selling a home console and the long-term future of handhelds, the writing's on the wall for the generation following Next-Gen I'm afraid. Sony going bankrupt (though not from PlayStation) might make the video game industry crash of the 80s look mild by comparison. I hope when Sony goes bankrupt they'll find a good buyer for PlayStation.
Of course, Microsoft makes both of these companies look unprofitable by comparison.
Though I dare say Nintendo's nest egg from the Wii and DS years rivals theirs and at least CEO candidates and investors don't want to torpedo their games business like Microsoft's have threatened to.Xbox at Microsoft is very much in doubt - it probably will disappear too if Sony goes under, as Sony will probably in the next 5 years go bankrupt. Sony is its main reason for existing. Considering Sony's situation and Nintendo moving to QoL due to problems selling a home console and the long-term future of handhelds, the writing's on the wall for the generation following Next-Gen I'm afraid. Sony going bankrupt (though not from PlayStation) might make the video game industry crash of the 80s look mild by comparison. I hope when Sony goes bankrupt they'll find a good buyer for PlayStation.
shinra-bansho
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A very rough guestimate rule of thumb for Canada that SalesAge tends to use is 10% of the US market, which would bring the number up to about 3-3.1M.
There's presumably some in the channel in all territories.
At a certain stage though shipments can generally be taken as reasonably representative of sell-through for hardware (software is probably another matter), assuming there aren't any channel stuffing effects in play, and with consideration to the fact that part of shipped numbers will be prospective in that they're stock to fill the channel for the beginning of the next quarter. Retailers aren't likely ordering what they aren't selling and can't sell.
Hahahahahaha. That's a good one.
Yeah I thought that. Well, we can at least decipher Japan stock, which seems to be at about 40k~ on shelves/transit.
Well, Nintendo's nest-egg is smaller no doubt, but it's enough to have another generation of failed consoles after this one, and maybe another after that - assuming investors don't get tired of it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Aha, is this including the first Smash release then? All of September, so probs. I mean MK is still selling through this period as well, but I've clearly forgotten the last Q results.. Allowing people to pre-order pretty distant DLC was pretty sneaky as well, but alls fair, haha.
we already had sell-through numbers to a certain point. us getting sell-in numbers doesn't grant us the power to have sell-through numbers.
Smash was only out in Japan at that time so I doubt it factors in all that much. Next quarter should be pretty strong all things considered.
DXB-KNIGHT
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Wonder how will QOL impact Nintendo's financial perspectives. It's a wild card that's being shaped in the background, we still need to know more.
It's a good move, Japan is aging and QoL fits that demographic.
R
Rösti
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Countdown to the Corporate Management Policy Briefing / Second Quarter Financial Results Briefing (for institutional investors and securities analysts) by the way:
KillerMan91
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Well good to see them making profit. They are not going to hit anywhere near that 3DS forecast though. At best with N3DS sales will be up in Japan a bit but still way down in west during this holiday season. Not to mention that last year they hit the forecast by overshipping 3DS massively during holiday season so there will be even more decrease in shipments this year compared to decrease in actual sales numbers (They were going trough that massive 3DS overshipment half of this year as you can see from shipments).
they shipped 3.22m units of smash in this quarter, including non-japanese territories. i imagine the number could be double that by the end of q4 for the 3ds version alone.
airmangataosenai
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I'll admit I underestimated the Wii U a bit, didn't expect this quarter to see gains over the last with Mario Kart gone.
It is a bit funny to see how muted the response is to this thread: It did better than expected so less dire talk but didn't do well enough to inspire any optimism about the company's future, so the thread isn't getting much attention. The Sony thread should be interesting.
It is a bit funny to see how muted the response is to this thread: It did better than expected so less dire talk but didn't do well enough to inspire any optimism about the company's future, so the thread isn't getting much attention. The Sony thread should be interesting.
Jaded Alyx
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Uh, no you can chose to have it auto download from the web shop itself, as long as you've signed in with an NNID.
posting a profit is about as good as it gets for them right now. there's of course the long-term issues, and things are about to get really nasty again once they start rolling out new hardware (meaning, not revisions), but being able to get their costs under control is a good sign for now.
Much better than before. Still more work needs to be done, but this is a good start. I believe with Smash, the first DLC coming for MK8, and if everything from this past E3 besides Zelda release next year we'll see some decent momentum, which is great! They deserve the sales .
.Pennywise83
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SSB released in Sept only in Japan.
Well they made money this quarter, that's always goof news.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Oh no doubt, sprinkle on the typical Pokemon sales, then you get the WiiU Smash version and Amiibo booster through the end. Definitely the "Nintendo Profit!" year crystallised before the loom of new hardware costs.
Selling two of the same 'big' game across two platforms in the same FY is clearly something Nintendo is going to want to do a lot more of. Hopefully it leads to the 3DS successor being a little bit more of a jump than they usually slum for with the thinking "take a slight hit on hardware, but worth being able to sell easily ported software twice". The New3DS and Xenoblade situation is a clusterfuck they should have their hardware teams intent on avoiding ever happening again down the road.