It's indicative that a lot of people are too invested in a video game for their own good, to the point that even the director is poking fun at them for throwing tantrums over one addition to a cast full of dozens of characters for it. If that's what you're asking.
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Tekken 7 - Lucky Chloe revealed
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I'm not the one living in it, dude
Hexa
Member
You seem to be the only one that thinks it exists.
/a/ is a cesspool of people-hating NEET memespouting manchildren. It's cool to go to though.
This just about describes it.
SoldnerKei
Member
People comparing this casul idol cosplay-material bitch to Marie Rose makes me sick
nah, it's tekken, I don't see why the rage... well tbh I do, her design is silly and stuff, but so is the raptor with boxing gloves, oh well, keep the new characters coming
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nah, it's tekken, I don't see why the rage... well tbh I do, her design is silly and stuff, but so is the raptor with boxing gloves, oh well, keep the new characters coming
gundamkyoukai
Member
WOW did not expect the character to get so much hate .
Think she fit into tekken rather well and can't wait to play her .
Think she fit into tekken rather well and can't wait to play her .
Define "big deal"?
The cool thing is that the ones complaining probably have never set foot on a fighting game tournament at all. Chloe is a thing and if you don't like her, just don't buy the game or don't use her, no one is forcing you to.
And don't compare her to Marie Rose, the only similar thing they have is that they're both young blonde girls. Nothing similar in design or fighting style. I say this as a MR player in DOA5.
And don't compare her to Marie Rose, the only similar thing they have is that they're both young blonde girls. Nothing similar in design or fighting style. I say this as a MR player in DOA5.
KDash31987
Member
Finally. I never got the comparisons, either.
Also: A Catgirl Too Far, or Why We Need to Chill Out About Tekken 7’s Lucky Chloe
"This character looks terrible, I don't want her in Tekken!"
"Grrrrah! Fine, if that's the way you want it! No Lucky Chloe in Tekken... ever!"
"Really?"
"Yes, really! You brought this upon yourselves."
"Great, thanks!"
"That'll teach you clowns a lesson..."
People that don't like Chloe don't necessarily like Lars's design either. I figure that a lot of people complaining here (who aren't just driveby posting about a series they hardly/don't play) aren't just threatening to drop the series over one character design. They are more likely dissatisfied with the direction that the series has been headed in, and Chloe was simply the last straw.
Also, Lars, though goofy as all get out, looks like a fighter. A very shōnen-esque fighter, but a fighter no less. Chloe looks like anything but.
Now that's creative.
TomcatTheLion
Member
When I don't like I character I simply don't pick them and it's not because of how they look but because of their fighting style/timing. No complaining. It doesn't take more than one second to process such an action with so many characters available.
I suppose that's too bad for them.
I suppose that's too bad for them.
DryEyeRelief
Member
I would actually prefer that
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Exactly. Harada and the people here don't undertand the issue and you nailed it on the head. Taking the ball away and coming back with that generalization is very telling of his character. I remember when Bob was unveiled, it was said it was in response to dumb, fat westerners calling Hwo "Bob" all the time. So troll, much funny!
Introducing a pop idol in full concert get up could have been pretty neat. But not when the character looks like an uninspired customization dump.
Let me guess, more retorts regarding bears, kangaroos and wood men?
If you replace bald with blonde scruffy hair then we did actually get Bob (who so far shares a bunch of animations with Chloe) in T6 and TTT2.
Never forget EVO 2011 finals... T T
Incredibly ironic how SRK says Baek is mundane yet claiming Chloe is unique when all they showed in the thing was canned strings while Baek is the character with a very creative use of the Flamingo stance and its cancels making him one of the more dynamic characters in the Tekken roster.
But whatever, I really shouldn't expect SRK to know anything about 3D fighters.
Of coarse I'm not going to choose her, but I will have to fight her... the same way I had to fight Bob's and Lars's online. Her existence takes the fun away because fighting those characters isn't fun. I like Tekken enough to just deal with it, but yes I'm going to enjoy Tekken less than I could have if she wasn't in. But alas, I can't have everything, Tekken is competitively dying and my enjoyment has to suffer to get newer audiences.
And yes, I've played Tekken Tag Tournament 2 in tournament, my highest placing is getting 2nd at the Canadian East Coast Regionals.
The Lone Dragon
Member
There were no articles on SRK front page trying to convince people not to hate Katarina.
There were no twitter blowups of Harada attacking "Westerners", trolling or otherwise. As if "Westerners" are one thing.
Chloe blowup >>>> Katarina anything.
In fact, this is the first thing in a while to actually get ANY noticeable mainstream FGC reaction regarding Tekken 7...which is unfortunate.
Yes, it's always convenient for the designer to play the "you guys are taking this too seriously card" when people disagree with them.
But, when people are buying millions of copies of your game, coming to your tournaments, buying your figures, making your franchise a household term...that EXACT SAME PASSION is encouraged and welcomed.
Maybe he'd prefer that people just don't give a crap about his product at all? Maybe he'd prefer that displeased people have such little emotional investment in his game that they just silently stop buying his game? Would that make him happier? I doubt it...
Anyone who opens up a twitter account for the sole purpose of inviting feedback should expect...feedback. Not rude feedback, of course. But feedback.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
That video reminds me... Can they please finally remove score tallying and usernames in some modes? It just adds unnecessary jank to the screen in these certain settings. Casual or ranked stat tracking matches online? Go for it. Singleplayer ghost battles? Bring it. Story modes and quick matches? No thanks.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
MegamanPoweredUP
Member
I don't like this new character as I already don't like most of the Tekken's cast. But man, Chloe has a really bad design even for Tekken standards.
Meccanical
Member
Tekken stopped having good designs after 3.
Indignant tone as if they were betrayed, swear off the series forever, demanding that they remove the character. I haven't seen many of these on gaf, I'm speaking generally.
Blasphemy.
Steve and Marduk are awesome.
Feng, Raven and Drag are awesome.
Miguel, Leo and Zaf are awesome.
There's a difference between caring and acting like the sky is falling. Passion is fine, but too much breeds the sort of melodrama and hysteria witnessed with this unveiling. Furthermore, the sort of people who would quit a franchise over one character out of so many were never really all that attached to it in the first place.
AlimNassor
Banned
Nobody wants to play as an ugly character in a game.
Raising a big fuss about a character you don't like is obviously overblown.
But i'm not surprised a lot of people don't like the character. I don't think it's only about "moe" or whatever, past "cute" characters were accepted just fine. This one just looks bad, not because she's cutesy, the design just looks terrible (imo of course).
Not even the fighting style looks original.
But i'm not surprised a lot of people don't like the character. I don't think it's only about "moe" or whatever, past "cute" characters were accepted just fine. This one just looks bad, not because she's cutesy, the design just looks terrible (imo of course).
Not even the fighting style looks original.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I can't speak for anyone else, but she's just one more hole in my big ass bitch and moan belt, and it's not even the first or second for T7. I've been trying to explain that it's more than just this bad character design, but the downward trend the series has had for a decade now.
There are people who enjoy moe stuff a lot who, despite their love of cute, bubbly characters and themes, will write about minor related issues in a serious voice that they think displays their maturity, when in fact they typically act childish. like when someone screams about "censorship" because Lucky Chloe might be removed from Tekken 7 in the west. Or when I think I'm being a mature smartypants when I write what amounts to a Rap Genius entry on my own joke to someone trying to fish logic out of it because they decided I sounded dumb.
What a horrible point. Xiao has always been a part of the story from her introduction, due to her connection with Jin. Jun is 'missing', so she doesn't even matter outside of her moveset at this point.
It stands to reason that Xiao gets a movie that shows her more T4 mature side, not Jun
SatelliteOfLove
Member
I like watching the gloating and cringe swing back and forth in this thread as the situation changed via Harada's hand.
Have a Nice Day
Member
DEATH;142412530 said:
chaobreaker
Member
Followed.
Do you always characterise complaints you don't understand as "whining" or is it only when it relates to gaming? It always amazes me how quickly people jump to apply that term to complaints people may have about a particular game.
The cries of this ruining Tekken or how you will never play it again because of this and asking for the character to get removed....
Is whining.
notworksafe
Member
B-but I don't like a thing! That means no one should want or have it!
The complaints don't make sense.
Oh no you didn't! It's because of her that Heihachi is living/breathing up till now. I for one will be legitimately pissed if she fails to make a canonical return in T7 considering how this is supposed to be the end to the Mishima saga.
eyeball_kid
Member
I think I've only seen two people say they're going to ragequit Tekken over this. I'm seeing much more melodrama from the pro-Chloe crowd who think that any negativity about this character amounts to "whining". The people with complaints are airing them. Some of us do think Chloe is part of a larger trend in character design in Tekken that is a net negative for the series, and I think the points we've made are fair, whether or not you agree with them.
The points that have been made are hypocritical at best. The whole argument/backlash is embarrassing. The whole thing is as silly as Tekken itself has been from the very start.
It's not really. And to be honest, saying that people who are trying to explain their viewpoint are "whining" is pretty insulting and not really very good debating form. Maybe you don't fully appreciate or understand the concerns but that doesn't make it whining. Whining is a kid being told to go clean up their room and making a fuss about it. The people you are addressing here are mostly adults as far as I know. I just find it interesting how frequently this verb that's more commonly associated with spoilt children seems to come up in these gaming discussions.
I've seen numerous people explain their viewpoints in a way that makes perfect sense. But the bottom line is that the character design is wack and people just don't like it. What doesn't make sense about that? Have you never had something you don't like in your life?
nailbombxx
Member
It was only a matter of time before Namco went full moe.
Asking Harada to take the character out because it's not to your liking is whining.
Saying you don't like this character isn't but many, not all, have not acted in a mature manner... So whining is fitting for those.
I'll try not to place everyone underneath that description but there are some that were whining over it. Sorry.
I have no sympathy for anyone where this one character was enough for them to lose their Goddam minds or denounce the series... It just reeks of wanting to look cool by looking down on this weeb ass shit. I'm sure there are some who are legit put off by the design but I think most of those peeps are level-headed enough that it won't stop them from trying the game or if they won't play it, it is simply part of a long running list of reasons rather than THE reason.
I don't even care for the design that much... I just hate the weird insular nature that pops up in threads like this. This is a Japanese game, and I rather them continue to be that instead of trying to appeal to Western culture only... Especially Tekken.
A sseries that has one of the most diverse casts in anything. And yet every time a Japanese game dies something weird and well.... Japanese. There is so w kinda uproar on this board or some shitty manufactured controversy.
I'm just tired of it
Saying you don't like this character isn't but many, not all, have not acted in a mature manner... So whining is fitting for those.
I'll try not to place everyone underneath that description but there are some that were whining over it. Sorry.
I have no sympathy for anyone where this one character was enough for them to lose their Goddam minds or denounce the series... It just reeks of wanting to look cool by looking down on this weeb ass shit. I'm sure there are some who are legit put off by the design but I think most of those peeps are level-headed enough that it won't stop them from trying the game or if they won't play it, it is simply part of a long running list of reasons rather than THE reason.
I don't even care for the design that much... I just hate the weird insular nature that pops up in threads like this. This is a Japanese game, and I rather them continue to be that instead of trying to appeal to Western culture only... Especially Tekken.
A sseries that has one of the most diverse casts in anything. And yet every time a Japanese game dies something weird and well.... Japanese. There is so w kinda uproar on this board or some shitty manufactured controversy.
I'm just tired of it
stump sock
Member
hahaha I love it
There are character customizations online that are way uglier and more cringe worthy than Lucky Chloes design. If you can tolerate those online, then you shouldn't have much of a problem with her.
I'm partially glad this happened so Tekken team doesn't create another character like this.
At the same time, it is very upsetting to see the reactions here. Recap: on how harada has abandoned the hardcore and is slapping legacy fans in the face. I don't like that type of entitlement. This is the same dude willing to get fired but not release paid DLC characters. This is the same guy that directed TTT2 (the most hardcore of the hardcore Tekken games). This is the same guy making a trip to EVO to reveal Tekken 7. This is the same guy going to StrongStyle just to show support to the same "hardcore" players. He doesn't need to take time out of the development schedule and fly to America just to appease fans.
Suddenly one character gets announced and all his work goes down the drain and people are upset at him for being a big idolmaster fan.
Tekken does not belong to the hardcore as an entitlement just because they stuck with the series for so long. Casual fans are the bigger pie for sales and for keeping this franchise alive. And considering how TTT2 performed, if they have to create a character like Chloe to appeal to a broader fan base to keep sales alive and the franchise strong, then so be it.
I'm partially glad this happened so Tekken team doesn't create another character like this.
At the same time, it is very upsetting to see the reactions here. Recap: on how harada has abandoned the hardcore and is slapping legacy fans in the face. I don't like that type of entitlement. This is the same dude willing to get fired but not release paid DLC characters. This is the same guy that directed TTT2 (the most hardcore of the hardcore Tekken games). This is the same guy making a trip to EVO to reveal Tekken 7. This is the same guy going to StrongStyle just to show support to the same "hardcore" players. He doesn't need to take time out of the development schedule and fly to America just to appease fans.
Suddenly one character gets announced and all his work goes down the drain and people are upset at him for being a big idolmaster fan.
Tekken does not belong to the hardcore as an entitlement just because they stuck with the series for so long. Casual fans are the bigger pie for sales and for keeping this franchise alive. And considering how TTT2 performed, if they have to create a character like Chloe to appeal to a broader fan base to keep sales alive and the franchise strong, then so be it.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I didn't see anything in there that pertains to my argument: The design is flat out ugly and slaps these new machines and our fancy screens in the face. I'm not willing to pay $60 for shit customization textures on character skins and the same designs of old characters. I've described her before as being an uninspired customization dump and I stand by that. Nothing about her is relevant. With looks/personality, Lili was already the pop-ish idol-come-fighter, Xiao was already the cutesy schoolgirl, Alisa was already the exotic anime fetish female etc. Her fighting style is an unispired mixture of other fighters, her outfit is basically every female customization I've come across. So what is worth defending? So what if maybe people wanted something a bit better in a game they once anticipated, especially if they were hoping for it to get back on track after poor decisions in the past.
Retorts with "whining", "immature", "priorities" are equally hypocritical and add nothing to anyone's stance.