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jasonng

Member
Thoughts on bitter melon? Used to hate that stuff, but now I can eat it and actually don't mind it!
I absolutely love bitter melons. It's definitely an acquired taste and I don't know how I got mine but they're so good when you cook it with proteins. My mom never taught how to buy vegetables or fruits when they're in season so I end up buying bitter melons all year round.

at first i thought it was just melon that are bitter but i had to google it.

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is this the thing that smells like socks?

my mom like these.
By themselves they have no smell whatsoever. A common dish cooked with bitter melons served in restaurants tend to be stir fried with black bean sauce. Maybe that's the smell you're referring to? I wouldn't say that it smells of socks. Doesn't smell bad at all actually.
 
Bruh...

Anyways, Welcome!! :)

To be quite honest, I don't know what a traditional marriage is either. This is the first time I hear someone saying they got traditionally married. Maybe you should have elaborated more to the lady? But yes, speaking English perfectly, having been born and raised here, and people thinking you're a foreigner can be enraging. People are quick to make assumptions. I can imagine it must have been a frustrating process going through HR and the lady. So did your wife end up getting insurance as well?

I was hoping to get the minority pass on that remark, didn't mean it in a bad way. Just wanted to say what I was really thinking at the time. Sorry if any body took it the wrong way.

As for the traditional wedding part, it's just what we refer to as a wedding done in the style of how it's done back where we originally came from. Probably not you or I since we were born here, but our parents or grandparents. For me I had to pay a dowry and it lasted 2 days and I had to do bunch of stuff during it. Honestly I hated it and told my wife if we ever divorce, I will never go through it again.
 

Zoe

Member
The phrase you should have used with HR was "domestic partnership". Those can only be added during open enrollment though.
 

simplayer

Member
We're both standing right in front of her speaking in perfect American accents because you know, we're both born and raised here so why the hell would we got back to Asia to get married.

She was probably being racist...but...the bolded does happen. I've known a few co-workers who have done this.
 
Hi everyone, thought I'd just quickly introduce myself.

I'm Chinese-Cambodian in heritage but born and bred in Melbourne, Australia. I can't say I've ever felt too much discrimination where I lived, there's so many asians.... everywhere, over 12% of the countries population and 18% in my state.

That was until I moved temporarily to a more rural area did I realize I was different and racial politics between Anglo-Australian and Indigenous Australians played a role in my highschool. I was just the asian who no-one payed attention to, or when they did it was to make an off handed racial remarks.

That's when I saw more clearly, how difficult it can be to be a minority. Going back, it's been 100% ok, maybe other than the fact that in my university, as an straight Arts student ... there are about zero asian guys and very few asian girls who are interested those subjects, maybe for good, but what can I say ... I gave up on learning maths since year 11 =O

I'm making videogames as a hobby with a few dudes though ... nothing technical , just writer and concept/scenario designer. Anyway ... just thought I'd say hi =)
 

Kevyt

Member
Hi everyone, thought I'd just quickly introduce myself.

I'm Chinese-Cambodian in heritage but born and bred in Melbourne, Australia. I can't say I've ever felt too much discrimination where I lived, there's so many asians.... everywhere, over 12% of the countries population and 18% in my state.

That was until I moved temporarily to a more rural area did I realize I was different and racial politics between Anglo-Australian and Indigenous Australians played a role in my highschool. I was just the asian who no-one payed attention to, or when they did it was to make an off handed racial remarks.

That's when I saw more clearly, how difficult it can be to be a minority. Going back, it's been 100% ok, maybe other than the fact that in my university, as an straight Arts student ... there are about zero asian guys and very few asian girls who are interested those subjects, maybe for good, but what can I say ... I gave up on learning maths since year 11 =O

I'm making videogames as a hobby with a few dudes though ... nothing technical , just writer and concept/scenario designer. Anyway ... just thought I'd say hi =)

Hi! Welcome!! What kind of games are you making with your friends? What kind of engine are you using? Game Maker? Unity? UE4? Cry Engine? Any particular art and design program that you like? Welcome once again! :)
 
She was probably being racist...but...the bolded does happen. I've known a few co-workers who have done this.

I didn't want to go there and use the R word. That's why I just said I think she was ignorant and made some bad assumptions. Just out of curiosity, what ethnicity are those guys or girls.
 
Hi! Welcome!! What kind of games are you making with your friends? What kind of engine are you using? Game Maker? Unity? UE4? Cry Engine? Any particular art and design program that you like? Welcome once again! :)

Oh we have decided to try both Unity and UE4 as a testing ground to see which is best, the issue is because one of the guys is familiar with UE4 and another is familiar with Unity. So I asked them to learn both ... we are just going to prototype a small little game in each, it'll probably have a beginning, middle and end though which is nice, probably five or ten minutes long. Once we've tried both, we'll make our decision.

We are all in the beginning of this process, all volunteers (I literally put up a local ad) who just want to make unique narrative driven games for a decent living - one day of course. Anyhow, thanks for the welcome leonidas =)
 
Hi everyone, thought I'd just quickly introduce myself.

I'm Chinese-Cambodian in heritage but born and bred in Melbourne, Australia. I can't say I've ever felt too much discrimination where I lived, there's so many asians.... everywhere, over 12% of the countries population and 18% in my state.

That was until I moved temporarily to a more rural area did I realize I was different and racial politics between Anglo-Australian and Indigenous Australians played a role in my highschool. I was just the asian who no-one payed attention to, or when they did it was to make an off handed racial remarks.

That's when I saw more clearly, how difficult it can be to be a minority. Going back, it's been 100% ok, maybe other than the fact that in my university, as an straight Arts student ... there are about zero asian guys and very few asian girls who are interested those subjects, maybe for good, but what can I say ... I gave up on learning maths since year 11 =O

I'm making videogames as a hobby with a few dudes though ... nothing technical , just writer and concept/scenario designer. Anyway ... just thought I'd say hi =)

hiiii and welcome!

another melbournian \o/
 

Bit-Bit

Member
Oh shit, didn't know there was an asian community gaf.

Checking in. I was born in Saigon, Vietnam but have been living in USA since I was 2.

Here in Florida, I constantly get "you speak english so clear. I'm surprise you don't have an accent!". Not sure how I feel about that.

And we can all agree that Vietnamese food is the best. (Japanese food is a very close second)

But I really love asian art and design the most.

Brush art, pagodas, sail boats, etc... I just really love the aesthetics of it all.

Also, freakin love bitter melons that's been sliced thinly and cooked with some eggs.
 

y2dvd

Member
So out of curiosity, how many " Asian" sterotypes do you fall under? Somehow I manage to fall under a lot of them without noticing :/
People tend to think I don't fall under any asian stereotypes except maybe bad driving. I've already been in 2 fender benders so it's hard to argue back lol.=\

Hi everyone, thought I'd just quickly introduce myself.

I'm Chinese-Cambodian in heritage but born and bred in Melbourne, Australia. I can't say I've ever felt too much discrimination where I lived, there's so many asians.... everywhere, over 12% of the countries population and 18% in my state.

That was until I moved temporarily to a more rural area did I realize I was different and racial politics between Anglo-Australian and Indigenous Australians played a role in my highschool. I was just the asian who no-one payed attention to, or when they did it was to make an off handed racial remarks.

That's when I saw more clearly, how difficult it can be to be a minority. Going back, it's been 100% ok, maybe other than the fact that in my university, as an straight Arts student ... there are about zero asian guys and very few asian girls who are interested those subjects, maybe for good, but what can I say ... I gave up on learning maths since year 11 =O

I'm making videogames as a hobby with a few dudes though ... nothing technical , just writer and concept/scenario designer. Anyway ... just thought I'd say hi =)

Woot a fellow Chinese/Cambo! I went to hs where blacks and hispanics were the majority and you can count the asians in one hand. I felt exactly how you felt being the minority. It's whatever as I got a diverse group of friends now.

suck at math

fat

6 feet tall


wait a minute....
Hey that's me except I'm skinny-fat!
 

Zoe

Member
I didn't want to go there and use the R word. That's why I just said I think she was ignorant and made some bad assumptions. Just out of curiosity, what ethnicity are those guys or girls.

I know some first-gen Taiwanese who have done that.
 

TopDreg

Member
So out of curiosity, how many " Asian" sterotypes do you fall under? Somehow I manage to fall under a lot of them without noticing :/

Asian stereotypes: Mathematically-intensive science majors, video games, anime, studying for law school (does that count?), cooks Asian food, just now really getting into reading, did Key Club in high school, kind of reserved when it comes to dating...

Non-Asian stereotypes: Peace Corps, heavy political involvement.

Went to a conservative, ethnically monotone high school and somehow still got my Asian on. It's like it was genetically predetermined.
 

jasonng

Member
So out of curiosity, how many " Asian" sterotypes do you fall under? Somehow I manage to fall under a lot of them without noticing :/
I can't live without a rice cooker. I know you can cook rice without one and it's really not that much harder (and you get the good crunchy bits on the bottom) but I just can't give up the convenience. I lived a few months without one and it was the lowest point of my life.
 
So out of curiosity, how many " Asian" sterotypes do you fall under? Somehow I manage to fall under a lot of them without noticing :/

Asian stereotypes I fall under
Likes asian food (but basically all good food too)
Went to Chinese School for 11 years (but forgot everything)
Has a Computer Science degree
Got good grades
Swimmer
Owns a shirt with a dragon on it (or used to, not sure if it's still in the back of my closet)
Owns one or more swords
Likes videogames

Asian stereotypes I failed to meet
Dislikes most anime and manga
Cannot play an instrument
Dislikes rice (but it's growing on me)
Cannot do kung fu
Spends money too loosely
 
So out of curiosity, how many " Asian" sterotypes do you fall under? Somehow I manage to fall under a lot of them without noticing :/

Stereotype pass;
-Apparently being an engineer is an asian sterotype? (I didn't take engineering in college btw)
-Pretty good in math
-Watcg anime since the 80's

Stereotype fail:

-Doesn't eat rice daily, I can go months without eating it.
-Only 2 year AS degree
-Filipino not in construction (Hawaii sterotype)
-Graduated with a 3.0 gpa in high school (lol)
 

Kevyt

Member
Oh shit, didn't know there was an asian community gaf.

Checking in. I was born in Saigon, Vietnam but have been living in USA since I was 2.

Here in Florida, I constantly get "you speak english so clear. I'm surprise you don't have an accent!". Not sure how I feel about that.

And we can all agree that Vietnamese food is the best. (Japanese food is a very close second)

But I really love asian art and design the most.

Brush art, pagodas, sail boats, etc... I just really love the aesthetics of it all.

Also, freakin love bitter melons that's been sliced thinly and cooked with some eggs.


Welcome!! As I have told others here, Vietnamese food is the best!! :D But they're in denial :p
 

Kikirin

Member
Stereotypes fulfilled:
  • Studied computer science and computer engineering
  • Got good grades
  • Is (generally) passive, quiet, mild-mannered
  • Inexperienced with the opposite sex
  • Interested in (and previously practiced) martial arts
  • Played a classical instrument
  • Likes video games
  • Likes anime / manga
Stereotypes avoided:
  • Uh...
 
Hey guys, just an update I saw from the OT:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=946396

It's a Netflix original TV show.... with... .... ... REAL ASIANS.



:eek:

I admit I might watch it just to see. I liked how Once Upon A Time had Jaime Chung.. until I saw her acting in the series. CRINGEEEEEEEE.

Hopefully this one is better. What do y'all think?

I just saw Angry Asian Man tweet this out:

http://www.villagevoice.com/2014-12-10/film/marco-polo-netflix/

yeah..
 

Kikirin

Member
Speaking of stereotypes, is being bad with the opposite sex an Asian stereotype o_O?

Because I guess I totally am not like that at all... unabashedly love sex, a lot of experiences, boyfriends, partners, kinks..

:x
I'm under the impression that it is a thing, at least for Asian guys. Painting with broad strokes here, but it seems like I frequently read/hear about, from a U.S. perspective, Asian guys not knowing how to interact with or treat women right, not being seen as sexual entities, etc. Or maybe I'm conflating it with stereotypes for nerds: Asians => nerds => bad with the opposite sex, or something like that.

At least when growing up, my parents actively discouraged (romantic) interactions with the opposite sex, having us focus on school and grades and achievement instead. And then they wonder why we don't have boyfriends / girlfriends after years out of college. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That isn't to say that I can't communicate with, behave around, or get along with women, but I would be extremely uncomfortable trying to interact with them in ways beyond how I'd normally interact with people in general. For example, touch - rather important for expressing interest or escalating romantic mood, but the limits of receiving / giving comfortable contact for me is a handshake, haha.
 

jasonng

Member
Stereotypes that I fulfill:
  • Play video games
  • Most of my dishes are Chinese oriented
  • Chop sticks are my preferred utensil. It's the best way to eat a salad.
  • If I could, I would eat dim sum everyday.
  • Follow a lot of Chinese holidays. I'm going to learn how to make zong this year.
  • Pressured by my mother to give her grandchildren.
  • Slept around with Asian women
  • Used to play a musical instrument.
  • Loved math up until...

Stereotypes I've avoided/being "white washed":
  • ... Calculus. Differentiation and integration doesn't make any goddamn sense.
  • That musical instrument was the alto saxophone.
  • Was an average student.
  • Slept around with Asian Women.
  • Never going to get married so I don't have to give out red envelopes during Chinese New Year.
  • If I ever do have children, my mom actually prefers me marrying a white girl so she can have cute mixed grandchildren.
  • I'm fucking terrible in video games. At my peak I was only low Diamond in SC2. :(
  • Mobas can go fuck off.
  • Outside a very selected few, I loathe anime.
  • I don't throw the V/peace sign when my picture is taken. Ugh.

Asian stereotypes I fall under
Owns one or more swords

Asian stereotypes I failed to meet
Dislikes rice (but it's growing on me)

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Hey guys, just an update I saw from the OT:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=946396

It's a Netflix original TV show.... with... .... ... REAL ASIANS.

Hopefully this one is better. What do y'all think?


:\

Because I guess I totally am not like that at all... unabashedly love sex, a lot of experiences, boyfriends, partners, kinks..

:x

Go on...
 
LOL

I'm still watching it :p.




Speaking of stereotypes, is being bad with the opposite sex an Asian stereotype o_O?

Because I guess I totally am not like that at all... unabashedly love sex, a lot of experiences, boyfriends, partners, kinks..

:x

It is associated with geeky/nerdy men, which Asian men stereotypically are. Plus, I've heard the passive thing too, which does make it hard to get women.


My first sword was the Highlander sword, so I don't know if it counts. Second was The Bride's from Kill Bill. Asian swords wielded but white people ... pretty fitting.
 

Kevyt

Member
How can anyone dislike rice? It's one of those foods that can be cooked in limitless ways and paired with almost anything.
 
Rice is part of every meal.

This man speaks the truth. As for stereotypes, my name is one and of course that was intentional.

As for Marco Polo, I'll pass and watch the modern day version whenever that comes out.
I'm talking about Iron Fist. And it still sucks that we'll take a backseat in that series as well
 
How can anyone dislike rice? It's one of those foods that can be cooked in limitless ways and paired with almost anything.

I don't like rice by itself. Some people I knew would just make craptons of rice and eat it plain. Other added soy sauce. That's it. Disgusting.
 
I used to pour some soy sauce into my rice all the time when I was a kid. My mom always made fun of me for it, and kept telling extended family that's all I liked
 
Rice with some rice wine vinegar (riception) a dash of soy and some pickled veggies?

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kimchi goes with everything.

my mom makes a fermented mustard green

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it's only sour and the crunch sound makes it with a hint of garlic.

i eat that shit growing up. sogood.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
So my wife was shopping earlier today at the local asian grocery store, and they were out of stock of the 50 lb bags of the usual brand of jasmine rice we get (lolno we aren't getting a 5 lb bag) and she asked what was the best brand of what was available.

Oh god, did that start a debate/argument. She ended up just going with the cashier's suggestion just to get out of there and avoid further drama, lol.
 
Well of course that's boring. That's like saying you dont like eating just bread or pasta.

You're technically right but...

Hey, I love plain white jasmine rice. Also plain bread and pasta.

When I was a kid, I used to eat plain white rice by the bowlful. My mom thought I was nuts, but I love the simple, fragrant taste of jasmine rice unadulterated.

I used to pour some soy sauce into my rice all the time when I was a kid. My mom always made fun of me for it, and kept telling extended family that's all I liked

It's this kind of evil that I'm railing against.

Put some meat on top of that bowl of rice and between those slices of bread. We're not animals.

I guess I can see how the "nerdy" stereotype would correspond to the having no sex/game stereotype. It actually never occurred to me before; many of my Asian friends are fairly "inexperienced" when it comes to dating, but I didn't think it was because they were Asian, I thought it was because they spent most of their time studying / not dating because it'd fuck up their grades.

My early high school years were basically the traditional awkward basement dweller nerd that you see in 80s movies. But since I was Asian,, that must be why I was inexperienced and awkward as fuck around women.

F that, it was my love of Dragonlance and cartoons!
 
My cousins used to mix cocoa powder with rice, that was um yeah. Whatever floats their boat. When I eat out, I usually substitute rice with vegetables or salad.
 
So my wife was shopping earlier today at the local asian grocery store, and they were out of stock of the 50 lb bags of the usual brand of jasmine rice we get (lolno we aren't getting a 5 lb bag) and she asked what was the best brand of what was available.

Oh god, did that start a debate/argument. She ended up just going with the cashier's suggestion just to get out of there and avoid further drama, lol.

did the 2015 crop come in yet? i wouldn't buy one really this late lol. we buy a certain brand too. lol.
 
I guess I can see how the "nerdy" stereotype would correspond to the having no sex/game stereotype. It actually never occurred to me before; many of my Asian friends are fairly "inexperienced" when it comes to dating, but I didn't think it was because they were Asian, I thought it was because they spent most of their time studying / not dating because it'd fuck up their grades.

To be fair, we on GAF are a nerdy bunch, so we might all just have nerdier than most friends. Basically most of my cousins for instance are nothing like me, very social bunch of people.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
My early high school years were basically the traditional awkward basement dweller nerd that you see in 80s movies. But since I was Asian,, that must be why I was inexperienced and awkward as fuck around women.

There was a large asian population in my public school system, so that never really happened at my schools growing up - if you got the awkward basement dwellar stigma, it was from your actions/hobbies/personality/etc, not your race.
 
To be fair, we on GAF are a nerdy bunch, so we might all just have nerdier than most friends. Basically most of my cousins for instance are nothing like me, very social bunch of people.

According to my (white) friend, there are two types of Asians: nerdy Asians (meek, awkward, brainy types) and cool Asians (spikey hair, stylish, and probably know kung fu). I fool him into thinking I'm the latter.

There was a large asian population in my public school system, so that never really happened at my schools growing up - if you got the awkward basement dwellar stigma, it was from your actions/hobbies/personality/etc, not your race.

Of course you know exactly what you're talking about because you went to my school and knew everyone that I interacted with.

I actually got the Asian nerd stigma because I was a smart asian kid with glasses. But my social ineptitude was not due to that, as some assumed. It was due to my preoccupation with hobbies that are associated with being socially awkward. That transcends all race.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Of course you know exactly what you're talking about because you went to my school and knew everyone that I interacted with.

wat

I wasn't refuting what you said, just giving my perspective on what I went through as a comparison point. I knew plenty of friends who had experiences more similar to what you describe. Defensive much? Did you interpret the "you" as to mean specifically you in that post or something? Should I have specifically added "if you were in that specific situation, time, and place I am referring to in this post in a contextual manner" or replaced it with something more generic to make it explicitly clear I wasn't referring to anyone in particular?
 
Watched a bunch of car club videos from Japan... now I want a ridiculous lamborghini and about 5 thousand dollars in strobe lights and gaudy metallic paint on it, while I continue my bout of vast over compensation with a terrible dye job and what is most likely a high school girl I paid to be there while I drive around, and would do anything for it.

I don't even like lambo's...

Point is, open a ramen shop cause it seems like thats what all the guys in the video did. Unless thats code for porn company owner.
 
wat

I wasn't refuting what you said, just giving my perspective on what I went through as a comparison point. I knew plenty of friends who had experiences more similar to what you describe. Defensive much? Did you interpret the "you" as to mean specifically you in that post or something? Should I have specifically added "if you were in that specific situation I am referring to in this post in a contextual manner" or replaced it with something more generic to make it explicitly clear I wasn't referring to anyone in particular?

I mean, you quoted me and used "you" in your response. Maybe you intended for it to be some general and vague anecdote, but c'mon, it definitely wasn't worded that way.

But I wasn't really offended, just amused.

Edit:

Tell your white friend to stop being racist, yo.

Lol, but seriously, if one of my friends stereotyped people like that.. like, oh, <x> black people (thugs, gangsters, drug slingers), and "white" black people (preppy, talks white, isn't an athlete) I'd be like what the fuck.

Of course, I'm just more sensitive to that sort of stuff.

He is a bit racist, but in the most harmless of ways. We bust each other's balls about stuff all the time, and I know there's no malice in it. Now, his political views and his views on women are another matter entirely. Some topics are best avoided around certain people.
 
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