GamingMajic
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Pretty much confirms he did something new for the special edition? Normally if they havent they would just come out and say no? right?
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Vergil teased for DMC4:SE! (Also, DmC Definitive Edition trailer)
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Pretty much confirms he did something new for the special edition? Normally if they havent they would just come out and say no? right?
Hmm, I wouldn't take it as confirmation of anything, but it does sort of sound like as possibility. *fingers crossed*
Wolf Akela
Member
To be honest I'd rather have Drew Coombs for older Dante. :/ Langdon was perfect for DMC3 Dante, but it sounds forced in 4.
Well, she was supposed to be playable in DMC3. You can mod her in. She even has her own taunt and a crazier version of Free Ride.
I'd only want Coombs back, if it meant that we would get something closer to DMC1 Dante's personality.
For better or worse, Langdon is the ideal for Itsuno's Dante.
The One and Done
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That's correct. With DmC Capcom got lazy and outsourced the game for 1. To gauge how popular a "new" DMC would be and 2. To allow them time and money to make a true DMC 5 game. Expect a lot of "different" things in DMC5 since DmC sold pretty well.
Yeah, honestly, I'm wondering if Coombs can even pull off crazy. I don't know him from anything other than DMC1 Dante.
he sure is
he took all of that patented dante cuh-razyyyy and concentrated it into his brain
he seems like a cool dude instead of just dangerous crazy though so there's that at least
Going by IMDB, he was apparently in the dub for Air Master.
Couldn't tell you much otherwise, though. Never watched it...
While I wont use this as some type of bar, I believe they got unless these voice files were already in the game, the SF4 voice actors, some of them at least to record new lines for moves in omega mode. And thats just an update, take that as you will
I have no idea about the bolded, also Virgil is cooler.
Wait, what? This is the first time I've heard this.
No way! Video?
badcrumble
Member
Wait WHAT.
badcrumble
Member
If that's all there is, I suspect it's really just about the ending-credits sequence where you have her present as an ally.
Wolf Akela
Member
It was a long time ago. There were AR codes for the PAL version. My friend made a video and someone uploaded them to nicovideo.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4287420 (you can use http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html, dunno the mod stance about that site, delete if necessary)
Lady has two unique taunts and does extra flips during Free Ride.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4287420 (you can use http://www.mmcafe.com/nico.html, dunno the mod stance about that site, delete if necessary)
Lady has two unique taunts and does extra flips during Free Ride.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Reuben Langdon twitter feed tho...
Haha, the T-poses.
That's interesting. I've never seen that before. The free ride looks like a modification on her dodge animation during her boss fight. The two taunts seem like animations from her boss fight as well.
Astral Dog
Member
Why would DmC " rigthfully" deserve to be the third best DMC game but DMC 4 don't?
is it because its called 4?
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Well we also have an idea how Trish would play because she's in MvC.
I can't stand Vergil, his fans generally annoy me, but this is the exact reason I'm hyped for DMC4 again because I hope they put Trish in for BP mode.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Eh, I'm okay with no Vergil story as that seems like a bit of a tall order. Vergil should most definitely be playable though via Bloody Palace; you don't get his voice actor and tease with his one line just for a skin.
Completing Dante's campaign the way Itsuno wanted to years ago would be awesome. I don't know how viable it would be but I think it would be as big of an improvement as all of the DmC changes times two. And considering how this is the major issue people had, doing this would make it the best DMC game.
The inclusion of all those other modes should be a given, as well as some graphical upgrades.
The inclusion of Lady and Trish... Eh, not as important if there's no money for it.
Do we know when they started working on DMC4 SE? Still 6 odd months tll release, you can add a lot of content in 6 months. I really hope we get a lot of the cut content back, some of that content have to be in varying degrees of completion making it easer to just add on to it, right?
Im sure its because its called DMC4 >_>
People REALLY need to get over their hate for DMC4. I admit I didn't spare the game either because of Nero, Dante back tracking, mission design and the fact the story didn't exactly provide the kick DMC3 did but that gameplay though and the visuals, at 60fps. Woah! It does more than enough right to be a title worth playing. Hopefully they build on it enough to please everyone in SE. I mean you don't go back and resurrect a 6 year old game if you are not going to do a lot with it.
Im sure its because its called DMC4 >_>
People REALLY need to get over their hate for DMC4. I admit I didn't spare the game either because of Nero, Dante back tracking, mission design and the fact the story didn't exactly provide the kick DMC3 did but that gameplay though and the visuals, at 60fps. Woah! It does more than enough right to be a title worth playing. Hopefully they build on it enough to please everyone in SE. I mean you don't go back and resurrect a 6 year old game if you are not going to do a lot with it.
Wait, what. I gotta see this mod.
There's probably no telling when exactly they started working on it.
At best, we can surmise that whatever that led up to starting work on the SE couldn't have begun earlier than when Itsuno was finished with Dogma, back in 2013. Then we can only hope that they didn't lose any of those older assets from the original DMC4 R&D, so that it would make their work at least somewhat easier!
PensivePen
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I guess we can officially say we shouldn't expect a trailer this w/e or any time soon, huh?
Yeah, seems like we might not be getting anything soon. But I'm just happy to know that it's coming. If there's nothing for Jump Festa then I'm just gonna stop thinking about it and wait until some new info pops up.
BreezyLimbo
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My dream list for DMC4-
10 missions for Vergil. It only makes sense(10 for Nero/10 for Dante).
Vergil gets Beowulfs glove/boots back
His Yamato ofc
His DMC3 demon form(Long shot but one can dream.)
Bloody Palace without timer(Seriously screw that noise)
Record option(So you can spectate your own games).
More enemy types
Crazier BP fights
Man....so excited. 2015 will be a very good year for vidya.
10 missions for Vergil. It only makes sense(10 for Nero/10 for Dante).
Vergil gets Beowulfs glove/boots back
His Yamato ofc
His DMC3 demon form(Long shot but one can dream.)
Bloody Palace without timer(Seriously screw that noise)
Record option(So you can spectate your own games).
More enemy types
Crazier BP fights
Man....so excited. 2015 will be a very good year for vidya.
Consider that Itsuno made D'sD, oversaw DmC Development and made a mobile game(lol). There's also that one year ago interview where he states he'd like to work on DMC5 and that he has a lot of ideas For a sequel, so i guess something started months and months after that statement but indeed that was the "starting point" imo.
After that maybe Itsuno insisted For working on DMC5 , Capcom probably replied saying that they don't want to fund a sequel because they feel it is risky so they suggested him to come back to DMC4 and "make it the game it was supposed to be".
Considering that Itsuno only has to add things he alredy designed (but cut because of time requirements)back in the day, such as full DT Nero, i think 1 development year is enough.
AgentLampshade
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Did Langdons company do the stunt work for DMC4? If so, I'd imagine they'd contact him again for Vergils moves. Dan Southworth did Credo's motions right?
I think 4 outside of its gameplay is pretty darn mediocre. DmC was mediocre but I enjoyed it way more than 4.
These people are crazy. Fixing Dante's campaign the way they're asking would be massive amounts of work that basically amounts to a remake. Saying "do it or we'll boycott this game" for something that'll never happen is just silly. Also lol at Vergil story mode. Give him a couple of missions at best.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Why would you need a record function when both consoles can record gameplay by default?
Yeah,entirely reworking Dante's campaign is maybe Too much, but adding few ideas they cut back in DMC4 Development days can't be that difficult nor expensive since we're not talking about working on a game from scratch, but about a 7 years old game they Know pretty well.
HYDE
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Then your mentioning of Lady, seriously dude get it straight.
DMC1/3/4 are on a whole 'nother level, in a galaxy far away, better than that DmC drivel.
What's with some people here that are so unaccepting of other people's opinions ?
Chaos2Frozen
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Eh, you have the right to your opinion, just as I have the right to think your opinion is wrong. These things work both ways.
Also, here's an indepth review of why DMC4 is awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPqrXC5hpSQ
I know that but there's no need to be a jerk about it.
BumblebeeCody
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No necessarily, and it's not actually about DMC that I'm talking about it's more about the inconsistency in arguments. How DmC is guilty of having swearing, yet the previous games having it is fine. Even in this thread:
It's how DMC4 made a "classy" innuendo yet DmC is somehow wrong for taking a dick joke a different way, but because it's DmC, it's the one that's wrong. Again, it's not about whether you like D/M/mC or not, it's how any negativity given towards the older games is given an excuse for being so while DmC is always in the wrong. This also applies to the following paragraph in how arguments made between people are generally biased. How RE6 is a bad game because it has explosions yet RE2 did the same. Or how FFXIII has annoying characters yet FF7 is a masterpiece despite having the same tropes.
Definitely not. Trust me, as much as I like DmC, it had some serious issues. It's just I'd rather be open to the games changes and see what it does have to offer rather than shrug off any potential it has....which is what I did. I played the game and found it's a lot closer to the series that people would like to admit. But when it comes to admitting being wrong, it's not something the gaming community(as a general term) is able to do.
That's what games are allowed to do though right? If the story sucks, then it's well worth noting that point down, but if the gameplay is fine then that's all that really matter. I've honestly never cared for the stories of DMC despite how serious DMC1, 2 and Vergil are. Even though the dialogue is cheesy as hell, you can tell a story was made but a lot of people will ignore because it's pretty much irrelevant. If that's the case then why not ignore the story of DmC and just focus on the gameplay elements? Because in terms of mechanics, DmC is better than DMC3 but much less than DMC4. As I've put in 200+ hours into DMC4 and learned the mechanics over many months and fully SSd every mission in DMC3 on all difficulties. But I can still enjoy DmC.
As for the last part, it goes back to my point earlier. It's not about understanding the difference in opinion, it's about how your opinion is right and someone who strays from the opinion at large is wrong. I love Resident Evil to the point I consider it Capcoms greatest franchise, even above Street Fighter. I still play RE4 and speedrun but I'm completely open and accepting of RE5 and RE6 that I can enjoy. There are a lot points made about how it strays from the original series yet if people took note of the story, there's a reason why the gameplay changed(I can go even more indepth on this). The same applies to FFXIII. It very traditional to the series. There's a big misconception about what auto-battle actually is. With regards to Sonic '06, don't get me wrong it's a shit game, but after going back and playing (and endlessly praising) SA2B and SADX, I realised those games suffered the same problem. It's why I'm open to DMC2 and DmC. They're weak games within the series, sure, but they're far from as bad as everyone was telling me.
Wait what? Well...there's hope then.
Well if he came back for UMvC3 then I don't see why he should turn away being Vergil again.
Those guys didn't want their charactrs in marvel for some reason
Chaos2Frozen
Member
This I can agree.
Although given how much Ninja Theory and the press shit talked the series in the early days of it's development, I would turn a blind eye to these things.
Showing Dante LITERALLY taking two strippers back to his trailer for sex is not innuendo, there' nothing coy about it and it leaves nothing to imagination. So yes, execution is everything.
Also I'm pretty sure the main complains for RE6 has nothing to do with the number of explosions and everything to do with pacing, and too many hammering of buttons and wiggling of sticks.
No comments on FF since I never played either.
Wolf Akela
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This is my beef. Everything DmC does different is somehow worse, going as far as pretending it's as if it's a 4/10 game and ignoring all the positives it did. Unless you're someone who already has spent hundreds of hours mastering the previous game, you'll just get told to "git gud". I am already "gud". I've probably done more than a great majority of people here (Beat New Game Bloody Palace, invented/beat New Game DMD, probably the first to show you can beat certain bosses without hitting the ground, etc). But do those matter? It isn't everything. Newcomer input would matter just as much as old hat input, otherwise we'll just get the same old game just slightly better.
Some people even bash the game because "that's not how it was in the previous games". Case in point: Vergil using guns. There's nothing wrong with that. DmC Vergil is not supposed to be a carbon copy of Classic Vergil. A re-interpretation means taking several elements that defined something, but not all of it.
NT messing up the initial PR did not help at all. There's really nothing you can do if you're already pre-disposed to view something in a negative light. DmC
E is already looking to fixing many gameplay issues and even gets extra features that the community wanted but not never got in any game. But what do some people say? "Game is still trash". "DMC2 is still better". "Story still sux". There area examples of those in this very thread. The story will not change in the game and it's not a realistic expectation for an enhanced edition. There are people just scraping the bottom of the barrel for any excuse not to touch the game. They won't be happy unless NT copy pastes DMC3 or 4 into DmC. Wow, now it's a "better game", but is now something I'm already too familiar with.Chaos2Frozen
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ehhh, mofo thinks his kamiya without the shit to back it up. Anyway DmC talks just run in circles. People like the game that's great, its easier to get into and has a higher ground level combat but far inferior skill ceiling, I get why people defend it but it is a failed project that did nothing to garner more sales or higher meta score. Though DmC fans are quick to turn on people against it most have not put in half the time that DMC fans have to master DmC. It was main fanbase that bought DmC and one have to be a complete tool to not see that that the game does nothing to further the franchise, its a side step nothing more nothing less.
The iconic franchise lives on despite naysayers. Rock on DMC4 and here's hoping we hear about DMC5 before year end 2015. It may not be the jack of all trades but its best for a franchise like DMC to please its fanbase than to chase one that's fickle.
The iconic franchise lives on despite naysayers. Rock on DMC4 and here's hoping we hear about DMC5 before year end 2015. It may not be the jack of all trades but its best for a franchise like DMC to please its fanbase than to chase one that's fickle.