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Please explain the Persona series to a n00b

Forkball

Member
A bunch of anorexic, sexually frustrated teenagers grind through dozens of hours of dungeons while taking breaks every now and then to revisit the exact same places and talk to depressed adults.

I highly recommend it.
 
A bunch of anorexic, sexually frustrated teenagers grind through dozens of hours of dungeons while taking breaks every now and then to revisit the exact same places and talk to depressed adults.

I highly recommend it.

This has to be the best simple description of the persona series ever...

(I love the series but this is spot on)
 

Sagely

Member
Depressed adults, hahaha! It's funny because it's true...

I knew nothing about the Persona series and jumped straight in with P4: Golden last year. Despite having reservations about it (not being a huge fan of JRPGs and being somewhat put-off by all the waifu-talk) I really enjoyed it. The characters are great, there's some excellent dialogue, the dungeon crawling is inoffensive on easier difficulties and the presentation is spectacular. The lifesim and time management elements offer a very nice contrast to the dungeons, and you can ignore the dating elements if you're not keen on them.
 
You can summon Satan.

468px-Satan.jpg


He's weak to wind.

with so many nipples it must be hard to be naked
 
A bunch of anorexic, sexually frustrated teenagers grind through dozens of hours of dungeons while taking breaks every now and then to revisit the exact same places and talk to depressed adults.

I highly recommend it.
Basically this. The only ones I've played for any length of time are Persona 3 and Persona 4, and I didn't finish either because it just became such a grind, both in the dungeons and outside of them. I can see why people love them, but coming from a CRPG background, it turned into a joyless slog.

They do a good job of making the "real world" compelling, though. I wish there was a turn-based CRPG take on it set in a "Western" high school. Like a Buffy game, basically. Someone should make one.
 

danmaku

Member
Alright, I think we need to nip this in the bud before moving forward. The gameplay is NOT mediocre. It's a more basic form of the Shin Megami Tensei mainline gameplay, but that does not make it mediocre.

What's the difference with other SMT games? I thought the gameplay in P4 was decent, but far too simple for an 80+ hours game.
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
You play chinpokomon with demons that all have strengths and weaknesses in random dungeons. When you're not doing that, you date or befriend socially awkward teens that make you laugh.

It's awesome.
 

Amir0x

Banned
You play chinpokomon with demons that all have strengths and weaknesses in random dungeons. When you're not doing that, you date or befriend socially awkward teens that make you laugh.

It's awesome.

they really need to expand the complexity of the social links though. I want real meaningful choices, I want the outcome of these choices to impact the strength of my social links over the long term. I want special persona unlocks for specific choices I make over others. I want special dungeon missions for each final lvl social link.

That's my big mechanical issue with the Persona 3 and 4. I like the feature, but it's not as well integrated as some of the other aspects of these games.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Real excited to jump into the series with P5.

Going to see if it overtakes Golden Sun as my favorite JRPG ever.

If you played any of the SMT games, that would have been surpassed a while back.

This game is probably gonna melt your face off
 
they really need to expand the complexity of the social links though. I want real meaningful choices, I want the outcome of these choices to impact the strength of my social links over the long term. I want special persona unlocks for specific choices I make over others. I want special dungeon missions for each final lvl social link.

That's my big mechanical issue with the Persona 3 and 4. I like the feature, but it's not as well integrated as some of the other aspects of these games.

I agree with this. The mechanic itself is neat but it could really be worked to be EPIC! Could you imagine how crazy it would be if they went this route...
 

Skynet87

Neo Member
After seeing the new trailer for Persona 5, I am also interested in this series. Thinking about getting Persona 4 Golden for the vita. Is it worth me paying $7? (I got credit on my gamestop account)
 

wmlk

Member
After seeing the new trailer for Persona 5, I am also interested in this series. Thinking about getting Persona 4 Golden for the vita. Is it worth me paying $7? (I got credit on my gamestop account)

Yeah, it's also the most streamlined game in terms of gameplay. The fusion system mechanics are much easier than past games.
 

Mendrox

Member
After seeing the new trailer for Persona 5, I am also interested in this series. Thinking about getting Persona 4 Golden for the vita. Is it worth me paying $7? (I got credit on my gamestop account)

God damn it. Persona 4 Golden is EASILY worth 100$ or more. Seriously and no joke. Get on it finally.
 
After seeing the new trailer for Persona 5, I am also interested in this series. Thinking about getting Persona 4 Golden for the vita. Is it worth me paying $7? (I got credit on my gamestop account)

alternatively, watch the giant bomb endurance run
 
On paper its half traditional JRPG with a bit of Pokemon and half weird social meta game but Its way more then the sum of its parts. Maybe not the deepest systems ever but they polish what they have to a shine and then add a bunch of personality on top.


Also somehow its the only Japanese series that doesn't make me cringe at the writing and voice over quality which is kind of a small miracle if you think about it. You wouldn't expect the JRPG made on a budget about Japanese school kids fighting demons in between going to school to be out producing Final Fantasy but here we are...


And totally get P4G. Its like 80 hours long so dont expect to "get it" right away. Stick with it though. Its a fun game to pick away at over a few months.
 
Haha that's good stuff. I love how I remember those pieces of dialogue as well, shows how good the writing is.

The very next line in the comic pretty much illustrates the total opposite for me.
"Hey, I'm a totally unrelated gas station attendant!"
Pretty much one of the dumbest ways to resolve a mystery in the history of the genre. It wishes it was as good as "it turns out it was all just a dream".
 
The very next line in the comic pretty much illustrates the total opposite for me.
"Hey, I'm a totally unrelated gas station attendant!"
Pretty much one of the dumbest ways to resolve a mystery in the history of the genre. It wishes it was as good as "it turns out it was all just a dream".

Tbf I never saw it coming since the game is so long that I ended up forgetting about that person lol.

Save the salt for the SMT purists.
If it wasn't for Persona I wouldn't have got into SMT. So that's check and mate to the purists.
 

F4r0_Atak

Member
There's always something related with the demons' world. People trying to fuse the demons' world with the real world just for the sake of chaos. :D
 

rrvv

Member
JRPG with high school sim

the sim part:

-you high school student
-you have friend with some problem. you solvve their problem
-you try to solve the mystery or conspiracy at same time saving the world.
-dow what high school people do (exam, party, etc)

the JRPG part:

- you fight monster with monsteer
- you can buy/change/capture monster like pokemon.
- combine monster to create stronger monster.
- turn based. more focushed on buff and de buff

cool art style and music. overall pretty solid game
 

Montresor

Member
From watching my brother play Persona 4 Golden:

Negatives:

-It has the usual trashy game play many JRPGs seem to have: tons of grinding, turn-based battles, and battle arenas (you get transported to some arena whenever a battle occurs, instead of fighting your enemy in real time).

Positives:

-Incredible music
-Interesting balance between adventure game play (in dungeons) and school/friend quests

So I find myself singing the music of this game in the shower, but the game play is just... yuck. I can't get into it at all. However, I'm a strong believer that game play is not king. Music, art style, graphics, story, etc.. can have a lasting impact and can be just as satisfying to a game as the actual game play.
 

Arcadius

Banned
It's because of the "wife" talk and the high school sim that I put Persona on my "Do not play" list and "Really truly awful" list. People on NeoGAF and everywhere else take the "wife" talk to the next level and it's disturbing.
 

Sagely

Member
So I find myself singing the music of this game in the shower, but the game play is just... yuck. I can't get into it at all. However, I'm a strong believer that game play is not king. Music, art style, graphics, story, etc.. can have a lasting impact and can be just as satisfying to a game as the actual game play.

Out of curiosity, do you find all the gameplay (including the lifesim and time management stuff) to be bad or just the combat? I'm not a fan of the combat either, but it only takes up about half of the actual gameplay and isn't a grind on easy difficulties. I can see why the lifesim elements would also be unappealing to some, though. And as you say, the presentation and music are really great!
 
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