PanicFreak
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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - The story behind the biggest game of the year
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Callibretto
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I wonder if they're going to mention "from the maker of TLoU" during U4 marketing
Marketing will use whatever it's available. It's not like Sony marketing is very good at it...but we will see. They got really creative with the Order 1886 in some ways.
Well when UC2 got GOTY not much else was out to really challenge it.
Seriously, we should be discussing about those instead of a subjective title that's meant to get people hyped up for the game. To me, the gameplay in the PSX demo looks very satisfying and fun. The open levels are also a welcome improvement. I'm also curious to know more about the adaptive tessellation ND is using for Uncharted 4.
PanicFreak
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I would be shocked if they didn't.
John Bender
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Batman Arkham Asylum revolutionized super-hero games that same year. But so did Uncharted 2 for action-adventure.
Left4Dead 2. Dragon Age Origins.
Maybe you'll get a sneak peak of that at GDC. There is a programming talk by a ND programmer about the light weight job system used on PS4.
Maybe it will show examples of what they do to fill their occupancy and this one of those things.
Uncharted is the classiest franchise in gaming today. The Last of Us was a complete success and one of the best told stories in media PERIOD. To top it off it's coming on the PS4, which I have heard nothing but praise from developers.
The stars are all lined up, this game is going to fucking slay brehs.
The stars are all lined up, this game is going to fucking slay brehs.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384655
1. Uncharted 2
2. Batman Arkham Asylum
3. Demon's Souls
4. Dragon Age Origins
5. Assassin's Creed 2
That's some ok competition.
Really? That's great! Hopefully there's also more info about AA, lighting and shading. Can't wait for GDC.
I would call that more than OK, unless your being sarcastic ... then... on point!
Only really Batman to beat there which wouldn't have been hard. If it was the year before or after it wouldn't have got it.
StrongBlackVine
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Never knew Uncharted caused so much butthurt. Time to go look at that TLOU review thread.
Sola Scriptura
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Man, all this Hennig, Druckmann, and Straley silence is brutal. Naughty Dog's and/or Sony's lawyers went crazy with some NDAs, no doubt.
It will only get worse, I'm dreading the review thread.
A game on 5 platforms vs A game on 1 platform.
You don't need to be a MGS fan to see which game will sell more.
Pppfff away with your crazy talk.. Headlines, that's all that matters!
FF Seraphim
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The Graphical Analysis Thread of MGS5 will be interesting as well.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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it cant be a ND thread without the butthurt or circle jerking.
to add to the latter though...
it's gonna be epic and thanks op for sharing, it was a good read
to add to the latter though...
it's gonna be epic and thanks op for sharing, it was a good read
Sola Scriptura
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nvm sorry wrong thread
It will? Are people really going to compare a cross gen open world game running at 1080p 60fps against fully optimised next gen titles in any serious way?
Aces&Eights
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I'm in accord with this statement as it makes sense. That said, I am curious to see if UC4 will outsell MGSV on PS4.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Nobody forced them to make it cross-gen. Open world and 60fps definitely gets it some leeway though.
I imagine the demo might've been scripted for the sake of the presentation, but I expect it not to be in the final game.
Btw, I don't understand why people say that the TLOU AI in the demo was that much different/better than the actual game. I finished the game twice (PS3 and PS4) and I replayed many sections multiple times (the hotel being one of them), and I remember the AI behaving quite dynamic and similar to the demo.
The keeping of a 60fps promise will probably be the main topic of discussion.
Oh shap
StrongBlackVine
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No if the Xbox One version is still 720p that will dominate discussion.
They did behave very similarly. We had a thread where people tried the same scene and see if it can play out like the E3 one.
What was missing is the animation of an enemy waiting next to a door to ambush you. Probably due to the severe memory constraints that they were under on PS3.
Of course nobody did but it still is cross gen, it's obviously not going to be comparable to completely next gen developed titles graphically.
I love their current philosophy of gameplay. I know people like to mention UC and TLOU having very linear and basic gameplay, but in my opininion there is really more to it than that. ND always manages to have simple basics and make encounters special by mixing up the ways you have to apply it.
Let me elaborate a bit on that from my own experiences:
Uncharted 3 is the perfect example. The gameplay always has the same tried and true TPS mechanics, but there are many encounters that mix it up significantly by leveldesign and objects/weapons at disposal. Fighting in a burning building, the shipyard, on a boat, on the back of horses and cars, and in the desert all felt really different for example. Some of the vertical layouts helped mixing it up as well (loved the completely vertical shootout). And instead of having a cutscene or a QTE event of Drake escaping a plane in 007 style, they have you play it whilst keeping those same basic mechanics. Not to say no other dev does this to some extent, but ND really nails having fluent, constant gameplay mechanics mixed up with widely varying levels and cinematic setpiece moments. That whole shipyard section up to the sinking ship will always be one of my most favourite shootouts and really shows how dynamic those simple TPS gameplay mechanics can be.
They built on this philosophy further with TLOU and expanded it with stealth, more complex a.i. and more open levels that allow different tactics. And with UC4 they take those added mechanics to the more action orientated/over the top Uncharted series, on top of some new gameplay layers. Especially climbing seems to be quite expanded. And while it may seems like minor details to some, the way they implement the animations (freely and seemlessly) into the gameplay will allow for many new possibilities I think.
While it does not look totally insane graphically (still great though) and the fps will most likely be at 30, I feel like this game will become very impressive in the way people can interact with the environment and enemies. I really expect this to feel like that "next gen gameplay" to many.
On sidenote, another game that I expect to deliver on that genre innovating/defining front is MGS:V. Ground Zeroes was very promising. Who cares what will be "the biggest", this will be a very interesting year.
Offcourse they will. They made two of the most critically acclaimed (GOTG type) titles last gen and it would be insane not to mention it.
Let me elaborate a bit on that from my own experiences:
Uncharted 3 is the perfect example. The gameplay always has the same tried and true TPS mechanics, but there are many encounters that mix it up significantly by leveldesign and objects/weapons at disposal. Fighting in a burning building, the shipyard, on a boat, on the back of horses and cars, and in the desert all felt really different for example. Some of the vertical layouts helped mixing it up as well (loved the completely vertical shootout). And instead of having a cutscene or a QTE event of Drake escaping a plane in 007 style, they have you play it whilst keeping those same basic mechanics. Not to say no other dev does this to some extent, but ND really nails having fluent, constant gameplay mechanics mixed up with widely varying levels and cinematic setpiece moments. That whole shipyard section up to the sinking ship will always be one of my most favourite shootouts and really shows how dynamic those simple TPS gameplay mechanics can be.
They built on this philosophy further with TLOU and expanded it with stealth, more complex a.i. and more open levels that allow different tactics. And with UC4 they take those added mechanics to the more action orientated/over the top Uncharted series, on top of some new gameplay layers. Especially climbing seems to be quite expanded. And while it may seems like minor details to some, the way they implement the animations (freely and seemlessly) into the gameplay will allow for many new possibilities I think.
While it does not look totally insane graphically (still great though) and the fps will most likely be at 30, I feel like this game will become very impressive in the way people can interact with the environment and enemies. I really expect this to feel like that "next gen gameplay" to many.
On sidenote, another game that I expect to deliver on that genre innovating/defining front is MGS:V. Ground Zeroes was very promising. Who cares what will be "the biggest", this will be a very interesting year.
Offcourse they will. They made two of the most critically acclaimed (GOTG type) titles last gen and it would be insane not to mention it.
mocolostrocolos
Member
MGSV.
Sure cause every year a game achieve a 96 MC, what's the big deal anyway?? :|
I really think all the complaints about the differences of the AI in TLOU is heavily exaggerated. The Hunters still do very clever things like flanking, reentering an area from another path and covering their teammates. The only thing that's missing is the Hunters foraging for supplies, nothing I'll miss. I'm really wondering if the fist fight in Uncharted 4 is scripted though. It looks almost too perfect.
Yeah, the only thing I remember being different was the dude yelling "Motherfucker" and smashing Joel's face with a two-by-four. The camera shot was more cinematic in that instance as well. That's the only considerably different moment between the demo and the retail version for me.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
How many copies of the Batman Arkham or Witcher series have been sold on current gen? That is no excuse. It could have been current-gen only.
ThatGuyAgain
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The varied climbing, combat options and improved AI all sound great. I didnt mind how linear the previous UC games were because the games were so good, but after playing Tomb Raider Def Edition, I think a more sandbox approach is needed for this generation.
If anyone can do it well, in Naughty Dog I trust.
If anyone can do it well, in Naughty Dog I trust.
Can you please link this thread? Sounds interesting
When Straley and Druckmann took over the first thing they did was have the level size reduced from what they were when it was under the previous directors.
I post too much to be able to find my own posts from June/July 2013. Maybe someone else can remember the title.Can you please link this thread? Sounds interesting
I'm expecting something like "Gunplay feels the same!" or worse, "Uncharted 4 was downgraded so much it looks nothing like the E3 demo!"
Konami doesn't have many good IP's that sell well left. Metal Gear is one of their biggest flagships so of course they want to get as much out of it as possible. It's not like a new MGS game comes out every 2 or 3 years.
The last console MGS game (MGS4) came out in 2008.
Stereoscopic 3D gaming is dead. (until VR)
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