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Germany Hardware LTD through March 2015: PS4 1.6 million, XBO 378K
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that's over. my generation is not responsible for this.
dftt
Considering it was the year 2014 and the WiiU had been out for a while already, that's not too surprising. XBOX getting demolished isn't surprising either. Would still like to see the 2013 sales, since I said that Sony didn't have >50% of the market share that year.
But yeah, there really need to be some numbers about the revenue split into Sony, MS and Nintendo parts.
Looking at 2014, Sony might possibly be above 50% there.
Sidewinder
Member
More like extremely stupid and has nothing to do with anything at all.
In Ed we Trust. Y'all wasting your time, let's look at these numbers at the end of the generation not now. The glorious comeback will soon be upon us. Where do you think Kojima is headed? Beautiful Redmond baby! And the exclusive licensing deal for Metal Gear Solid 6, 7 and 8 are just waiting for the ink to dry. This is not over, not by a long shot.
Oh and when MS plays it trump card in China it's game over for Sony. Do you know what 1% of sales in China will mean?
Oh and when MS plays it trump card in China it's game over for Sony. Do you know what 1% of sales in China will mean?
kingkaiser
Member
Sliiiightly off-topic but looking at the NSU killings, the PEGIDA movement and burning asylums here in "good old" Germany...well alot of things haven't changed much...
On-Topic: I am a little bit surprised that the XboxOne is selling faster here than the WiiU.
SolidSnakex
Member
I know the meme that you're getting at, but there was a recent thread that pointed out that the PS4 outsold the Xbox One's LTD in just a month in China.
I can't even... Why post this here?
MS lost China? Wrap it up folks...wrap it up.
CarlieCaplin
Member
Is it? I've never seen a single ad and Wii U shelf spaces at the Saturns/Media Markts I've been to are very, very limited and/or hard to find.
PdotMichael
Banned
PS4 confirmed for being the perfect console for racists.
Big push in Poland currently. Also price cut, cheaper 40-50 than the PS4 plus 3 games, not sure which, or MCC.
Localized commercials (Polish actors) a couple times a day on many channels.
Advertised as a family/casual console.
Girl plays Just Dance, kid after her FIFA, mom plays some fitness shit, dad comes home with a surprise Kinect Sports behind his back and they all play together. So heart warming lol.
Not to mention Xbox brand (consoles, games) are sponsored items on both Saturn and Media Markt.
And it's not like the PS4 has a lot of commercials. Pretty much coincide with game releases. Last time it was pushed really hard was Destiny. I think I saw one for Little Big Planet. The Order and Bloodborne were supposed to have Polish commercials but haven't seen them anywhere except for their YouTube channel.
FranXico
Member
People expecting sales to hit tens of millions in a couple of years there were just delusional. It remains important to gain market penetration there for both Sony and MS, but that's not the market that is going determine the outcome of this console war.
michalmarek77
Member
In Poland "console" means PlayStation. If any land in Europe is Sony land then it has to be Poland. Which of course is mainly a PC land - console gaming is often (also wrong) considered as a very expensive hobby.
Glomby
Member
Well yes a fun halo group indeed
But Halo wasn't even the reason why my friends chose the Xbox over the ps4. In fact I'm the only person who even played Halo Games before. Some of them even were PC only gamers who wanted to get into console gaming this gen too.
I don't know but at least from my personal experience it's solely a brand problem. I don't think people choose playstation over Xbox because of personal pros and cons lists, they go with playstation "just because playstation".
It's not because of kinect, the NSA stuff, weaker hardware, and not because the Xbox feels too american either. It's just the brand. MS needs to push Xbox as a brand. It's not even about games or features.
SolidSnakex
Member
Definitely. I was just pointing it out because I know how often the China meme is brought up. I think the Middle East is the surprising market this gen that no one really talks about. Earlier this year it was reported that the PS4 was close to crossing a million there and that it was selling 4x's faster than the PS3. That was the most popular console there last gen with 60% of the market. It's quietly become an important market.
Xbox an.
Personally I know no one with a Xbox One. Taking online friends in to account I can still count everyone with a Xbox with one hand.
And it isn't that MS didn't try to push it. You had the ad with Klaas (one of Germany's most populars moderators), name drop in the Heute Show (though that seems more dependent on the writer's choice) and recently they have a sponsored fifteen minutes show on rocketbeansTV and have a selfproduced show with Rockstah.
Personally I know no one with a Xbox One. Taking online friends in to account I can still count everyone with a Xbox with one hand.
And it isn't that MS didn't try to push it. You had the ad with Klaas (one of Germany's most populars moderators), name drop in the Heute Show (though that seems more dependent on the writer's choice) and recently they have a sponsored fifteen minutes show on rocketbeansTV and have a selfproduced show with Rockstah.
I would say it's more true for like 10 years ago. There was no Nintendo basically, so PlayStation was the first defacto console, apart from some Russian knock offs.
Numbers I have are only incidental since I don't think MS ever released official numbers. But the 360 changed the landscape a lot. People were buying it because it was here earlier, it was cheaper, and sad but true, it was easy to hack and play pirated games.
Then there was Kinect which swayed a lot of casuals.
It was way closer between the two than people give it credit imo.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
You know what, I had that feeling with the 360. My "casual" gamer friends play Fifa or CoD most of the time and it was on a PS3.
how the fuck did a thread about console sales end up here... if this was supposed to be funny, you failed.
You mean Pegida which is dead, only amounted to 25k at maximum while the anti-Pegida movement amounted to 100k?
Crimson_Gold
Member
Hawaii Jeff
Member
Surprised it sold that much, honestly, considering no advertising or buzz or sales.
UK is 3.3m combined as of end of Jan
WTF is wrong with you guys? This is a thread about Sales Numbers for Consoles in Germany.
FranXico
Member
Dance my puppets. Dance!!!
Damn PS4 is dominating
Ed Fries did a lot for the industry. I would prefer that it wasn't him in that GIF.
Same here. Had one "casual" friend who went with the 360 because it was cheaper. Everyone else went with the Playstation 3.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Ed Fries did a lot for the industry. I would prefer that it wasn't him in that GIF.
He and crazy Ken both did. I think the gifs are all in good fun.
Well Japan has close to 50 million more people, so this would not really be surprising.
slavesnyder
Member
I laughed so hard my führer-portrait fell off the wall...
I couldn't find the yearly chart for 2013, but the weekly charts are archived on GAF & tell pretty much the same picture.
& the 2014 chart points to a ~75%+ marketshare rather than 50% considering the vast majority of PS titles were in the first 50, it shouldn't surprise you for example if the #1 title alone sold better than the bottom 50 combined (this happens a lot in the UK chart).
The Middle East numbers should be much higher than the reported 1 million, the reported number was only for 6 countries out of 20+ in the middle east.
Nightengale
Member
Japan is still a significant console market. Sure, it's declined massively from the heydays, but it's still bigger than a lot of other market.
CheDominik
Member
The brand image of Xbox is just bad. It's perceived as a cheap Playstation knockoff by most people I talked to. And those fire sales and price drops I've seen apparently only fuel this perception.
But its the market everyone calls dead for consoles (see media create threads).
Wow, that's a crazy ratio.
However at the end of the day it's not surprising. There is absolutely no buzz for the console and there has never been any. I know 0 people that own or want to own a Xbone, when I mention that consider buying one in the future for a few exclusives I even get weird looks on peoples faces.
The console has dropped in price over 200 since it was introduced and there are deals on the console like every week now, the best local deal recently was console + 2nd controller + forza 5 for 279. And if nothing changes the console might even hit 199 this year, wouldn't even be surprised to see the Xbone being cheaper than the WiiU this or next year.
However at the end of the day it's not surprising. There is absolutely no buzz for the console and there has never been any. I know 0 people that own or want to own a Xbone, when I mention that consider buying one in the future for a few exclusives I even get weird looks on peoples faces.
The console has dropped in price over 200 since it was introduced and there are deals on the console like every week now, the best local deal recently was console + 2nd controller + forza 5 for 279. And if nothing changes the console might even hit 199 this year, wouldn't even be surprised to see the Xbone being cheaper than the WiiU this or next year.
Why not?
TylerDurden4321
Member
What was the ratio PS2/lifecycle vs. original Xbox/lifecycle and the Xbox 360 vs. PS3 ratio like in germany??
I might be wrong, but my guess is there isn't much of a change, even if you consider german Xbox One exports to tier 2 countries.
Germany never liked Xbox. I don't think I ever knew someone here in Germany who had just an Xbox 360 and no PS3 over last gen.
If you ask me, it's this mindset of "power for your buck" and "I hate to pay for games" in Germany. PC is big here, people buy sick graphic cards a lot, but pirate their games then. When the Xbox 360 was released, people waited for the said-to-be more powerful PS3 and as in theory it was more powerful people bought it, it became dominant and the late adopters of course wanted what the money-to-burn-for-the-best-stuff early adopters and older brothers had and went PS3 too. PS4 and One launched simultaneously and the early adopters knew that the PS4 was more powerful and cheaper, so they went Sony again.
I really have the feeling that people here care a little about brand image, a little about money and a lot about processing power... what they almost don't care for at all is the established games library.
I might be wrong, but my guess is there isn't much of a change, even if you consider german Xbox One exports to tier 2 countries.
Germany never liked Xbox. I don't think I ever knew someone here in Germany who had just an Xbox 360 and no PS3 over last gen.
If you ask me, it's this mindset of "power for your buck" and "I hate to pay for games" in Germany. PC is big here, people buy sick graphic cards a lot, but pirate their games then. When the Xbox 360 was released, people waited for the said-to-be more powerful PS3 and as in theory it was more powerful people bought it, it became dominant and the late adopters of course wanted what the money-to-burn-for-the-best-stuff early adopters and older brothers had and went PS3 too. PS4 and One launched simultaneously and the early adopters knew that the PS4 was more powerful and cheaper, so they went Sony again.
I really have the feeling that people here care a little about brand image, a little about money and a lot about processing power... what they almost don't care for at all is the established games library.
The thing is: It doesn't account for sales discounts. So it's always tough to say anything too specific in that regard. Add to that the millions of bundles that were available which reduce either the console price or the game's price, however you wanna see it. Well, 2014 was a good year for Sony, that much is definite.
Nightengale
Member
Well, it's a bad console market for an insular development scene.
Unlike many other markets, Japan is unique in that it produces a lot of content for their own internal consumption without regard to the global market, and from that perspective, it's in a tight spot, definitely.
But purely in terms of market size, it is, and will remain one of the larger markets from a country-by-country perspective.
At the start of this generation (November '13) the PS3 and 360 was:
36% vs. 22%
If you took the Wii out and just did it a versus:
62% vs 38%
Which now would be 80%/20% if you ignore the Wii U.
Discounts aren't exclusive to one platform or one market for that matter, I don't get your point?
A similar situation occurs now and then here. I was browsing the new game catalogue and this old due comes in with his kids, points at an Wii U and says to the clerk "Give me that Playstation."
Mind you, his kids wanted a Wii U but in illustrating how the word 'Playstation' is synonymous with 'console' in a lot of countries.
Fiery Phoenix
Banned
Look! PlayStation is doing better than Xbox outside NA! You're supposed to be shocked!
Never mind, lol. I looked at the total difference in revenue, not the relative difference.
(which only matters when looking at exclusives or Wii U/PC game sales)