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Can Nintendo win you back?

Terrell

Member
I've been a Nintendo man for a very long time. The games make it difficult to impossible to say no to their consoles.

What has been losing me over the past while, though, is their focus on the 3DS. I'm neither a handheld or mobile gamer, so their focus on that business, in my mind, had come a bit at the expense of their console business, which I did not appreciate. They've managed to bring me back on-side with their game lineup leading up to E3 this year, but I have been considering walking away next generation if there isn't some significant change in how they do things.

Thankfully, some of the things we've heard from Iwata make it seem like there will be a reason for me to stick around and will address my concerns regarding their focus on handhelds. But I still need to wait and see.
 
Nintendo needs to find that power/price nexus. They have games that I want to play, even if I hate the hardware, but not for $300. I got a WiiU on clearance for $100, which is why I have one. I would buy their next console as a secondary one, but only at sub-$200 as a price.

Having an alternate to whatever terrible controller they're coming out with as the primary controller is a must, too.

Re: Handhelds, the Vita has spoiled me regarding hardware tech, so they need to make a handheld that is at least that graphically powerful with the awesome screen and everything.

I jumped ship at the Gamecube and only got a WiiU because it was super-low priced. I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't be if it were $200-plus.
 

OranSky

Banned
Nintendo would have to try EXTREMELY hard to ever lose me. Not saying there perfect not at all but I'll stick with them till the end off time.
 
So to answer the OP specifically, what lost me that they did?

Still a generation behind for online, the same games yet again such as similar Mario and Zelda games, under powered, unsupported. Stupid shit like lack of online chat when its ridiculously simple to add.

The Wii U is the last Nintendo console I'll ever own. They're too behind the times and they don't seem to give a shit about catching up.

To be fair, Microsoft aren't in a better position in my eyes. They showed off a console for the United States and said "fuck you" to everyone else, so I'm not buying another MS console again either. That's after owning the 360 as my favorite console of last gen. They screwed over their audience.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Nintendo needs to find that power/price nexus. They have games that I want to play, even if I hate the hardware, but not for $300. I got a WiiU on clearance for $100, which is why I have one. I would buy their next console as a secondary one, but only at sub-$200 as a price.

Having an alternate to whatever terrible controller they're coming out with as the primary controller is a must, too.

Re: Handhelds, the Vita has spoiled me regarding hardware tech, so they need to make a handheld that is at least that graphically powerful with the awesome screen and everything.

I jumped ship at the Gamecube and only got a WiiU because it was super-low priced. I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't be if it were $200-plus.
You realize that the n3DS is $200 new, right? You're implying that the n3DS is worth more than the Wii U.

So to answer the OP specifically, what lost me that they did?

Still a generation behind for online, the same games yet again such as similar Mario and Zelda games, under powered, unsupported. Stupid shit like lack of online chat when its ridiculously simple to add.

The Wii U is the last Nintendo console I'll ever own. They're too behind the times and they don't seem to give a shit about catching up.

To be fair, Microsoft aren't in a better position in my eyes. They showed off a console for the United States and said "fuck you" to everyone else, so I'm not buying another MS console again either. That's after owning the 360 as my favorite console of last gen. They screwed over their audience.
They've put out more new IPs in the last 4 years than they have in a while. Splatoon, Xenoblade, The Wonderful 101, & Code Name: STEAM are all new IPs that Nintendo either put out themselves or contracted others to make.
 

Zubz

Banned
I never left, but I've become slightly embittered over a few things.

Some things that would resweeten me would be:
1. A unified account system/heavier emphasis on online play
2. More attempts at new IP/revisiting older IPs that are rarely revisited (Or at the very least, stop making the types of games that are being erroneously branded as "New;" I want to be wowed by new games)
3. Reasonably distributing limited edition products/Amiibos to a degree where they are attainable by simply walking into a store

More 3rd Party support would be nice, but that's a two-way street. I don't want to sound demanding, but I feel like Nintendo could improve themselves in each of these regards.
 

JordanN

Banned
If they launch early again without being dramatically cheaper (e.g. Wii) or at least in the same ballpark performance-wise (e.g. GCN) they'll be dead on arrival and fully deserve it. Raw CPU performance hasn't been increasing much lately and GPUs are still limited by thermal constraints. There is no reason they shouldn't at least be in a XB1 to PS4 situation performance-wise.

Nintendo's next console is hinted to work closer with their handheld. The gulf between mobile technology and what you can do with a home console is far more dramatic.

But the comparison mostly remains pointless since Nintendo went into R&D earlier. They'll have already hit manufacturing before the final plans are drawn for PS5/next Xbox.
 

fallingdove

Member
They lost me with the Nintendo 64. The system was a monumental joke compared to the grandeur that was the NES and SNES. JRPGs were non-existent, 3rd party support was piss poor, they did little to foster the maturing gaming community etc. etc. etc. Sadly, they have continued with this same strategy for the most part. To make matters worse, for me, their first party games have lost their luster. So the best shot they have is trying to win me back in 2023 just before the end of the world with their Ultra Nintendo ViiR.
 
Besides, Nintendo going with a different route gives more justification of buying it alongside a Sony or Microsoft system, since they're practically the same anyway.

Most people don't do this, especially earlier on during a generation when it really matters. Nothing about the direction the market has been going suggests to me that it's likely to be more common in the future either.

The PS4 and XB1 are direct substitutes for each other and both have been far more successful than the Wii U despite being less differentiated.

If their highest aspiration is to be an also-ran then maybe they can be happy launching a new Ouya, but I think that they should aim to be number one and if the current strategy can't do that then either start from scratch or give up. History isn't kind to also-rans in the console space.

That would pretty much mean that Nintendo would have to charge for online, & free online is one of the only pros they have over the other two.

No, no it wouldn't. Sony didn't charge for online on PS3. It wasn't as good as XBL, but it worked fine for a decade. They're goosing margins with PS+, but that doesn't mean it's required. Ask Valve.

Look at the gulf between Wii & PS3/360. Or WiiU & PS4/XB1.

Nintendo's next console is even hinted to work closer with their handheld. The gulf between mobile and what you can do with a home console is far more dramatic.

What am I supposed to be looking at exactly? The former hurt them as HDTVs became common, while the later hurt them right out the gate.

If Nintendo is really planning to do a console/handheld hybrid they're even dumber than I thought and they'll deserve all the failure they get. If you think the tradeoffs they made with Wii U to make it sip power were bad you then ain't seen nothing yet.
 

Game Guru

Member
The audience that has bought into PS4 and XB1 are plenty educated on the things that matter to them and a big one is third-party support.

Nintendo's refusal to at least be competitive on performance is a self-inflicted wound drives away the kind of people who buy third-party games to begin with and limits their audience to mostly hardcore Nintendo loyalists. It's not sustainable.

They aren't coming back because the type of third-party games that sell well on PlayStation and Xbox like CoD, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, Madden, and FIFA just don't sell on Nintendo systems. It'd be like complaining Tales and Star Ocean isn't on Xbox. Those games just don't sell well to the Xbox fan which was proven by how well they did on Xbox 360.
 
You realize that the n3DS is $200 new, right. You're implying that the n3DS is worth more than the Wii U.


They've put out more new IPs in the last 4 years than they have in a while. Splatoon, Xenoblade, The Wonderful 101, & Code Name: STEAM are all new IPs that Nintendo either put out themselves or contracted others to make.

And a few million more people agree the 3ds is worth more
 
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Deleted member 8095

Unconfirmed Member
I bought a WiiU for first party games. I learned my lesson from the Wii, I knew the 3rd party support would be bad. However, Nintendo 1st party games are by far the best in the business and are so far in front of MS and Sony 1st party games it isn't even fair. The console price is worth it for those 1st party games alone.
 
They aren't coming back because the type of third-party games that sell well on PlayStation and Xbox like CoD, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed, Madden, and FIFA just don't sell on Nintendo systems. It'd be like complaining Tales and Star Ocean isn't on Xbox. Those games just don't sell well to the Xbox fan which was proven by how well they did on Xbox 360.

They sold extremely well on N64 and they still did alright on the GCN despite both it and the XBX getting obliterated by the PS2. I think a lot of you are confusing cause and effect.

Nintendo's demographic being apathetic or even hostile towards third-party developers isn't an unavoidable fate, it's entirely predictable given the discrepancies in performance and services over the last two generations.
 

Hiltz

Member
- Iwata already told us the next generation will have traditional account systems.
Furthermore, there's also Nintendo's new membership program that it is implementing later on in this generation and of course, will be used in the next generation as well.

- Iwata said he's considering no region locking in the next generation. Understandably, we remain skeptical about it for now.

- Nintendo's experimented already with some cross-platform eShop titles like Mario vs DK. Nintendo's getting its feet wet, so we'll probably see more of this in the next generation.

- Nintendo is focused on hardware differentiation and blue ocean strategy. That is not going to change in the next generation.

- If Nintendo's online remains free, then it gives them a bit of an excuse to make it the way they want to. They're not interested in matching Sony and Microsoft's respective online services feature-for-feature. Again, Miyamoto said he isn't fond of things like an achievement system is used as a carrot on a stick approach to compel gamers to want to spend more time with a game.

Take a look at all the comments below made by Iwata and Miyamoto and you'll notice their consistency on wanting to be different and not caring what Sony and Microsoft do. They want Nintendo to be unique and offer gamers something different instead of being copycats and entering a battle over graphics and resolution. The unified architectural strategy is something Nintendo has wanted to do for a while now even before Wii U launched. Its going to be a way for Nintendo to more reliably carry the weight of its own platforms without the reliance on third party support, particularly on the home console. While third parties are free to take advantage of the benefits of the UA strategy as well, its primarily meant to improve Nintendo's capacity for software output and hardware-related firmware updates and applications between handheld and home console by integrating them. Although, the UA strategy makes a lot of sense to make it easier for indie developers to put their games on both Nintendo platforms which lowers costs and development time. As to what unique controller Nintendo comes up with next is anyone's guess.

As for the blue ocean strategy, the new one appears to be based on, or at least partially based on Nintendo's expansion into mobile gaming. They want to use it as another major source of generated revenue, but it's second purpose is to keep Nintendo's IP relevant in an age where younger consumers in particular, have grown up playing on smartphones and mobile devices at home and in school. Nintendo wants to ultimately utilize mobile gaming and apps as a bridge to lead potential mobile users into graduating to dedicated hardware platform owners. Thus creating new customers for Nintendo. It would seem that Nintendo will perhaps abandon the Wii brand name since it has lost its value and for all we know, the same may happen for the 3DS. The unified architectural strategy may give Nintendo a new opportunity to brand its next platforms under a shared moniker due to their more sibling-like relationship.

Going back to the mobile games strategy ,if Nintendo is successful with it, then perhaps it can use that extra profit its making in order to position its next platforms are lower price to consumers even if it means selling them at an initial loss, but unlike this generation, Nintendo could have the extra money coming in to compensate for it. Of course, Nintendo will still take cost-cutting measures with its handheld and home console hardware in order to help keep production costs down. They really need to stay within the $200-250 price range in my opinion. Without super powerful graphics and a troubles acquiring and maintain third party support, particularly on the home console, Nintendo needs to have its home console as a more ideal supplementary platform for Xbox and PS owners to want to have around because it won't certainly replace them as their primary system of choice.

"Expanding only on exiting hardware is dull." - Iwata, March 2015

"What the other companies are doing makes business sense, but it's boring. The same games appear on every system. At Nintendo we want an environment where game creators can collaborate and think of ideas for games that could have never happened before." - Miyamoto, Nov 2014

"A unique software experience can always be realized with unique hardware that has a unique interface. That is why I believe Nintendo is, and will be, sticking to these dedicated gaming machines." - Miyamoto, August 2014

"We just don't care too much about what other companies are doing or are trying to do. Our primary focus is to think about and actually carry out something which [another] company's hardware can never realize." - Iwata, June 2013

" From my perspective, with regard to the more powerful hardware systems, to me what still remains incredibly important is the developers maintaining a focus on creating unique games because if all that everyone does is uses the enhanced power to create more and more games that look and feel the same, then all that it becomes is a competition about the power of the hardware rather than the uniqueness of the experience. That, to me, is where developers should be devoting their effort." - Miyamoto, June 2013

“it’s not just about power alone, but how to balance what you’re offering in terms of power with cost. I’m very happy with the balance that we’ve been able to strike. What’s left is how developers use it.” - Miyamoto, June 2012

"We just don’t care what kind of “more beef” console Microsoft and Sony might produce in 2013." - Iwata, June 2012

Nintendo's failure with Wii U and even Nintendo's move into mobile games has not changed anything in the sense that Nintendo values being a different kind of platform holder.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
If Nintendo is really planning to do a console/handheld hybrid they're even dumber than I thought and they'll deserve all the failure they get. If you think the tradeoffs they made with Wii U to make it sip power were bad you then ain't seen nothing yet.

I honestly don't think they'll make a hybrid like many often try to claim. They'll keep the multiple devices like home console and handheld but they'll be running on the same architecture for easier asset sharing and porting making things easier for development. That would make something like the next Smash Bros. on handheld and home console much easier compared to how it was done for 3Ds and Wii U. Could open up other doors as well as better connectivity like the Gamecube days with GBA to Gamecube, only this time actually manageable and ideal through wireless connection.
 

i-Jest

Member
Before I get into things, I just want to be clear that I'm a satisfied Wii U and 3DS owner.

This has already been said but unified account system and abolish the continued practice of region locking hardware. It's draconian in this gaming age.

They need to release more Wii games on the Eshop. They DEFINITELY NEED to release Gamecube titles on the Eshop. I'd like to think the console can handle it. Nintendont has proven the console can run Gamecube games I believe. Nintendo must know this. They made the Wii U after all. Maybe they're just waiting for the right time to make their more.

Further improvement on their online infrastructure.
 

Artex

Banned
Unfortunately I feel like the WiiU is going to be my Zelda box again just like the Wii. It's collecting dust right now, I literally haven't turned it on since last August when my then girlfriend and I used to play MK8...Zelda better be good.
 

Neiteio

Member
I stuck with Nintendo even when they inexplicably left single-player Versus out of Mario Kart 7, which may I remind you is worse than Hitler and GamerGate and country music combined. Of course, my patience was rewarded when it returned in the candy-coated wonderland that is Mario Kart 8, but still! Clearly, my nintendurance is stronger than I suspected.
 

Trago

Member
There's a lot they would have to do to make them my main plarform. First thing's first, the online. It's bad, yes, but having it at least on par with the competition should not be this hard. Cross buy/save with VC games should have already been a thing. I just want to buy Super Mario Bros. once and have it work across all of their hardware. They have hinted great things with DeNA helping out, so there's hope in that area at least.

Third party support should be on par with the competition as well. There are no indications of that ever coming back together, so I'm really not sure how they could do it. I mean, would all the publishers magically come back if their next hardware is even on par with the PS5 and Xbox 4? Would be nice.
 

Kieli

Member
Nintendo doesn't really need to do much different. They just need to actually release the titles (Xenoblade, Zelda).
 
You realize that the n3DS is $200 new, right? You're implying that the n3DS is worth more than the Wii U.


They've put out more new IPs in the last 4 years than they have in a while. Splatoon, Xenoblade, The Wonderful 101, & Code Name: STEAM are all new IPs that Nintendo either put out themselves or contracted others to make.

Very true, and I'm not gonna deny it. Look at Splatoon for an example. Probably the biggest IP they have in years for multiplayer and no online voice.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
If Nintendo is really planning to do a console/handheld hybrid they're even dumber than I thought and they'll deserve all the failure they get. If you think the tradeoffs they made with Wii U to make it sip power were bad you then ain't seen nothing yet.
I wouldn't worry, Iwata has made statements against a hybrid numerous times in the past.

Very true, and I'm not gonna deny it. Look at Splatoon for an example. Probably the biggest IP they have in years for multiplayer and no online voice.
After playing Splaton for myself, I didn't feel like it desperately needed voice chat. Still, Nintendo has a winner on their hands with Splatoon, & they know it (hence all the advertising).
 

Mephala

Member
I seem to have a weakness for a lot of Nintendo games. Even if I dislike some of their decisions I've come to realise that they get the one thing I value and care about most right a lot of the times and that is the games. They can release a console and I'll say "Nope, nope nope!" until the games I want slowly stack up and I'm drooling like a baby looking at the list. The fact that they are slowly improving in many things do help though.

tl;dr
Nintendo release the games I want in the quality they are known for and my wallet is automatically opening for them.
 

Comandr

Member
Stop making me choose between a console that plays Nintendo games orrrr one that plays EVERYTHING else.

If Nintendo makes another half-ass system with a pointless gimmick, I'm not buying.

Dazzle me, Nintendo.
 
You realize that the n3DS is $200 new, right? You're implying that the n3DS is worth more than the Wii U.

Probably my fault for not noting that I was talking specifically about home consoles when I was discussing sub-$200 prices. I wouldn't get a 3DS for any price above $50 or so at this point because I'm not very interested the hardware or its games, and because my Vita covers it all regarding what I need from a handheld.
 

Neiteio

Member
IMO, Mario Kart 8 and Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 are, like, the three most hella addictive games on current-gen consoles right now.
 

Hiltz

Member
Let's put this hybrid console thing to rest already because Satoru Iwata already told us it won't happen based on a statement he made back in 2013 when describing the unified architectural strategy:

"Last year [2012] we also started a project to integrate the architecture for our future platforms. What we mean by integrating platforms is not integrating handhelds devices and home consoles to make only one machine. What we are aiming at is to integrate the architecture to form a common basis for software development so that we can make software assets more transferrable, and operating systems and their build-in applications more portable, regardless of form factor or performance of each platform."
 
I wouldn't worry, Iwata has made statements against a hybrid numerous times in the past.


After playing Splaton for myself, I didn't feel like it desperately needed voice chat. Still, Nintendo has a winner on their hands with Splatoon, & they know it (hence all the advertising).

You gotta give players a choice though. No voice chat in 2015 is bordering on incompetence.
 

Chastten

Banned
They already have.

Didn't buy a Wii as I never really thought the system was worth the price of admission, but loving my WiiU :) Sure, certain aspects of the system could be a little better but overall I'm really happy with it.
 

Trago

Member
Let's put this hybrid console thing to rest already because Satoru Iwata already told us it won't happen based on a statement he made back in 2013 when describing the unified architectural strategy:

And then there's that quote about the console and handheld being 'brothers', which implies multiple hardware devices.
 

The Adder

Banned
Just get big on third party

Like, what more do you want them to do? They had a deal with EA where they'd put as much money into advertising EA's games on their console as EA did and EA's response was to just not put money into advertising their games on Nintendo's console. And then to cut ties with Nintendo.
 
I feel like I'm weird. They lost me with the N64 and I was firmly a Sony gamer for their first three generations of hardware. Nintendo had always been at the back of my mind though, and I dunno, maybe I had always wanted an excuse to get back in, but the Wii U was the machine that did it for me. I bought one at launch, and though I was as frustrated as anyone with the massive 2013 software drought, I love the little thing.

That said though, I don't think Nintendo will ever dominate my attention as much as they did in the SNES days. The early-mid 90s were truly a different time for me when other companies were so far from my mind that they may as well have not existed. Sony didn't dominate my attention with the PS1, PS2, or PS3 and Nintendo doesn't with the Wii U. Those four machines are just my preferred platforms.

But lately my attention has been shifting to handheld and I don't see that trend reversing. So in order for Nintendo to dominate the retail space in my mind again like they did with the SNES, some key things would need to happen.

1) Sony would need to drop out of dedicated handheld hardware forever. This, sadly, has a good chance of actually happening.
2) Nintendo would need to release all of their published games on handheld. Depending on what you believe about the NX, this actually might happen too.
3) Japanese 3rd parties would need to rally behind it. I'm talking about global releases of main series entries of their popular IPs from companies like Atlus, Square, Capcom, Koei Tecmo, Sega, and Namco. This is least likely.
 
Like, what more do you want them to do? They had a deal with EA where they'd put as much money into advertising EA's games on their console as EA did and EA's response was to just not put money into advertising their games on Nintendo's console. And then to cut ties with Nintendo.

Can you really blame them?

EA’s decision to abandon Nintendo’s current generation home console has been validated with its most recent financial figures, which reveal that just 1.3 percent of software revenue in the last quarter came from the combined sales of Wii and Wii U.
From Nintendolife
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
There's a 17 step tutorial on how to create a NNID.
http://en-americas-support.nintendo...2LzEvdGltZS8xNDMyNzAyOTE4L3NpZC9RZnlPZ21ubQ==

They have no idea how to run an account system. Fix that.

Also, create hardware that third parties will actually think is useful to make games on. They can tack on their gimmick controls all they want, but what continues to sell Sony/MS consoles is graphics and third party games.
And again, it's gonna take more than hardware & a normal controller to bring third parties back.
 
Can you really blame them?


From Nintendolife

EA's big IPs were never going to sell as well on the Wii U due to hardware specs and online infrastructure, but I can't help but feel like their efforts would have been at least a little more rewarded if they actually bothered to run some marketed for them. And maybe released something other than a couple of last gen ports.
 

Hopeford

Member
They haven't lost me, I still like their games. It's just that it's hard for me to justify buying a console for a handful of games I like. Not that there aren't a lot of games for the Wii U, but there aren't enough games that I personally go "Oh wow, I wish I could play that right now!" Like I'd love to play Super Mario 3D World, but it's the type of game that I'd play only if it was available in front of me as opposed to something I'd actively seek out, if that makes sense.

It's like, I see myself buying a Wii U after the generation is over and its price really goes down by a lot because that would seem like a good investment to me.
 

Hiltz

Member
Quite frankly, Nintendo will likely always have me supporting them as long as they make good games in spite of their hardware. However, I don't think I'll be supproting handheld anymore. It's expensive enough with one platform as it is and I've always been more attached to the home console experience anyway.
 

Duxxy3

Member
Sure, but I don't think they care enough to go after me. Nintendo has been so intent on making a unique system that they don't remember how to just make a good one. The Gamecube is the most recent Nintendo system that I was remotely interested in, and even that was a bit of an odd ball.

They have abandoned two of my favorite Nintendo franchises - Metroid and F-Zero. They have next to zero third party support. Their network and account system are a joke.

Nintendo really lost me at the Wii. For Nintendo to win me back they will need to go back to the spirit of the SNES. When they believed in an evolution of their hardware and games, and not a revolution. Call it safe if you want to, but that's what I want. Motion controls, VR, 3D... all just gimmicks that take away from the game.

Nintendo probably shouldn't go after me. I'm not the audience they want... not anymore anyhow.
 

Boss Mog

Member
They can but it's going to be pretty hard. They need to stop making underpowered, gimmicky machines and have a robust online infrastructure. I mean Nintendo aren't even close to where MS were 10 years ago when the 360 launched in terms of online functionality. It's kind of embarrassing. They keep chasing the non-gamer but if your making a game console it would benefit them more to go after gamers first and then add optional gimmicks to try and get the non-gamers. Some sort of trophy system wouldn't hurt either. And maybe buy some studios to diversify their first party offerings.
 
Not really likely. Haven't owned a Nintendo home console in wow... 11 years. It's weird, I strongly feel that game developers should not feel like they have to hit arbitrary performance goals of 1080p60fps or have amazing effects or anything. Basically I feel there is way too much emphasis on graphics in general. I'm fine with developers going for pixel art, low poly, whatever they want.

And yet, I feel the exact opposite for the hardware. I want it to be as powerful as possible, so that if a developer feels the need to crank out a graphical powerhouse that also is an amazing game to play, I want to make sure the system I buy will be able to handle it. So that leaves out all Nintendo home consoles since the Gamecube (which happened to be the last Nintendo home machine I owned, hmm...). Basically, a lower powered console limits your options. I don't want all the games I play to be focused on graphics, but I want my machine to be able to do it when those games come along.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Sure, but I don't think they care enough to go after me. Nintendo has been so intent on making a unique system that they don't remember how to just make a good one. The Gamecube is the most recent Nintendo system that I was remotely interested in, and even that was a bit of an odd ball.

They have abandoned two of my favorite Nintendo franchises - Metroid and F-Zero. They have next to zero third party support. Their network and account system are a joke.

Nintendo really lost me at the Wii. For Nintendo to win me back they will need to go back to the spirit of the SNES. When they believed in an evolution of their hardware and games, and not a revolution. Call it safe if you want to, but that's what I want. Motion controls, VR, 3D... all just gimmicks that take away from the game.

Nintendo probably shouldn't go after me. I'm not the audience they want... not anymore anyhow.
It hasn't been that long since Prime 3.
We don't speak of Other M.
Plus Miyamoto has expressed interest in new 2D & 3D Metroid games for the 3DS & the Wii U respectively. I don't get why everyone acts like Nintendo has abandoned the franchise. Wait until E3, more so since Retro has been working on their new Wii U project since they finished Tropical Freeze.
 
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