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The Witcher 3 next patch first details - 1.05 (PC), 1.04 (console)

And people here aren't? Everybody is dealing with it their own way, just like CDPR is dealing with it their own way, which apparently is not being completely honest about the matter.

Look, I'm all for being patient and cutting the developers a slack. I'm waiting, I'll wait if it takes a month, because I love the game. It just rubs me the wrong way that if some people have some animosity towards them because of the issue, they are "bitching" and being completely unreasonable.

So you can cut CDPR a slack, but you can't be as generous to people who were affected by this?

First off, I think people need to chill out. Every post I made in the last page has indicated people need to chill out. Everyone has a right to complain but at this point, however I, personally, think its pointless to continue complaining when CDPR already clearly understand their mistakes.
 

drotahorror

Member
This game really isn't about levels but knowing the weakness of the monsters you're attacking. I can beat beasts levels higher than me if I follow the guide and study their movement.

Some monsters have an instant attack that you can't read. That's fatal on deathmarch if you're fighting a mob that's a skull icon or 10-15 levels higher. I was fighting one monster like that, I had taken 5% of his HP in 3 or 4min. Not gonna sit there for an hour and fight him, I"ll come back later. And playing to perfection only to get hit once and die then enduring a 1min long load time (ps4) isn't worth.
 
How about... no? Seeing as how I can't play the game, I think I'll complain until a fix is out. And I don't particularly care if CDPr knows of the bug or not. I paid for a product and I'm entitled to complain about it when said product has been littered with bugs.
 

gdt

Member
I'm stuck on the Kings Gambit quest bug......I might be able to dig up a save and just leave the quest area and pick it up later though. Does that have any negative effects?
 

EloquentM

aka Mannny
The controls for combat are fine. Geralt does exactly what you tell him to. Don't mash expecting every input to come out, instead, wait for the current animation to finish.

On the other hand, the regular movement kind of sucks. Getting around especially in tight spaces is frustrating. Looting a particular container when there are other loot containers nearby is horrible. Dismounting the horse can be a chore.
I agree with everything but the horse dismounts. Funnily enough I have more problems trying to get on roach than getting off of him.
 

abundant

Member
I'm not even mad that it'll take a while for the patch to come out as I'm enjoying the books right now as I wait, but I rather wish they stay quiet instead of giving promises that they can't keep. It's better to under promise and over deliver than the other way around.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If they'd stay quiet, like you suggested, people would still be in an up roar, sprouting nonsense like CDPR is an incompetent/lazy/untrustworthy dev.
 

kmax

Member
wait

the xp bug patch hasnt released yet?

what the fuck man

Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to take at least a week before we see it. If you're on console, you can add a few days more as the certification process takes time.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If they'd stay quiet, like you suggested, people would still be in an up roar, sprouting nonsense like CDPR is an incompetent/lazy/untrustworthy dev.

True. I think all they should say at this point is that it's ready when it's ready, and that they're working on it. People are going to be upset regardless, but at least they'll keep their expectations somewhat in check without the false promises.
 
And people here aren't? Everybody is dealing with it their own way, just like CDPR is dealing with it their own way, which apparently is not being completely honest about the matter.

Whining and squealing and angrily accusing the developers of being liars or incompetent isn't really dealing with it though, is it?
It's completely failing to deal with it.

It's not about cutting CDPR slack. They've said they're dealing with the issue and will release a patch to fix it.

Constantly bitching and moaning and acting like CDPR killed your dog won't make that happen any quicker.

Thank goodness for the modern age of computing and high speed internet.
In the old days you quite often had to put up with bugs for the lifetime of the product.
 

Salsa

Member
Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to take at least a week before we see it. If you're on console, you can add a few days more as the certification process takes time.

are you fucking kidding me

I just wanna play the damn thing

game was fine for 60 hours, just put it out on Steam cdpr god dammit
 

heringer

Member
It does nothing to change the fact that problems do occur at the last minute.

Yeah, it doesn't change that fact, neither attempts to do so. So, what's your point?


Blame? Do you know they're not doing the best they can? Even the most talented developer in the world will have their wok delayed due to unforeseen ssues at times.

How do you know for sure these delays wouldn't have been worse in the hands f anyone else? How do you know for sure they're not doing everything possible?
This is irrelevant. "Doing the best they can" sometimes isn't enough, and that doesn't make anyone blameless. You can sympathise with them for doing their best, but that still doesn't take away their responsibility. I don't know for sure if the delays wouldn't be even worse in the hands of anyone else, but it doesn't matter. The main problem isn't how long the patch is taking, it's how they are handling this. Again, they promised monday, then wednesday "at latest" and now it's next week. It's either incompetence (on the PR side) or straight up lying. Take your pick.

What am I not being honest about?
I meant CDPR.

Venting frustration is fine, but getting emotional about it or having unrealistic expectations is just pointless.

I don't disagree, but criticizing someone for overreacting in a harmless way is worse than criticizing the developer for it's faults.

Again. Feel free to complain, but throwing around absolutes like "CDPR don't know what they're doing" or "they should have found this before launching" is uncalled for, especially when people are taking it so personally and adding insults into the mix.

They absolutely should have found this before launching. It was their responsability, and one that I doubt even they would deny. I don't have any idea of why do you think that's even debatable.
 
How about... no? Seeing as how I can't play the game, I think I'll complain until a fix is out. And I don't particularly care if CDPr knows of the bug or not. I paid for a product and I'm entitled to complain about it when said product has been littered with bugs.

Well no one can make you grow up. Hopefully it's something that will happen over time.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If they'd stay quiet, like you suggested, people would still be in an up roar, sprouting nonsense like CDPR is an incompetent/lazy/untrustworthy dev.

This is really the crux of it.

Some people are just too frustrated to see this

They absolutely should have found this before launching. It was their responsability, and one that I doubt even they would deny. I don't have any idea of why do you think that's even debatable.

Lol.
 

AsfaeksBR

Member
Just got the game, will start playing it tomorrow.
What's up with the XP Bug? Does it happen on every quest, or am I safe to play the beginning without a problem? Is this bug widespread?

PS4 version, btw
 

Mutagenic

Permanent Junior Member
I'm just gonna go back to playing the game. I'm only a few hours in, and I don't get days off very often.
 

Chippiez

Banned
How about a "Witcher Vision" without the nauseating fisheye effect? I'd kill for that option. I cringe every time I have to trace red-glowy footprints, etc.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
Just got the game, will start playing it tomorrow.
What's up with the XP Bug? Does it happen on every quest, or am I safe to play the beginning without a problem? Is this bug widespread?

PS4 version, btw

Some users are finding quests stop rewarding xp at seemingly random points in the game on all platforms.

Some have report it hitting them very early on, some not till quite far into the game. Some have said it only happened with a few quests, some said it happens with more than a few.

Others have reported compelling te entire game with no apparent issue. I'm on PC, level 14, just finished all quests and contracts in Velen/Novigead. Lots of gwent. Lots of PoIs.

Not arena single XP gltich. Been keeping track since 1.03, so I may have not noticed before that if it indeed existed then.

Fact is, you may find it or you may not. Anecdotal, but I've my heard of a single instance of it outside of gaming forums. The people I know in real life and social media playing the game are all fine or haven't noticed it.

It may not be as widespread as people think, or it may be more so but simply not as drastic to progression, or it may be somewhere between the two.

Play, keep an eye on your xp bar when you complete a quest, hopefully you won't experience it.

How about a "Witcher Vision" without the nauseating fisheye effect? I'd kill for that option. I cringe every time I have to trace red-glowy footprints, etc.

Yeh, I really dislike that design choice. Hoping a mod becomes available for it for PC.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Some users are finding quests stop rewarding xp at seemingly random points in the game on all platforms.

Some have report it hitting them very early on, some not till quite far into the game. Some have said it only happened with a few quests, some said it happens with more than a few.

Others have reported compelling te entire game with no apparent issue. I'm on PC, level 14, just finished all quests and contracts in Velen/Novigead. Lots of gwent. Lots of PoIs.

Not arena single XP gltich. Been keeping track since 1.03, so I may have not noticed before that if it indeed existed then.

Fact is, you may find it or you may not. Anecdotal, but I've my heard of a single instance of it outside of gaming forums. The people I know in real life and social media playing the game are all fine or haven't noticed it.

It may not be as widespread as people think, or it may be more so but simply not as drastic to progression, or it may be somewhere between the two.

Play, keep an eye on your xp bar when you complete a quest, hopefully you won't experience it.



Yeh, I really dislike that design choice. Hoping a mod becomes available for it for PC.

Wish it'd skip all the filter/camera shenanigans and just highlight stuff in red. Not like a Witcher has to do some super focus, their enhanced senses are there at all times. It's what makes them a fucking witcher in the first place :lol
 
Just got the game, will start playing it tomorrow.
What's up with the XP Bug? Does it happen on every quest, or am I safe to play the beginning without a problem? Is this bug widespread?

PS4 version, btw

I got up to level 14 before it seems to have happened to me- I cleared out White Orchard, the starting area.
I've done maybe two thirds of the non main mission stuff in Velen, the second area, but have left lots of stuff that was either too high a level when I started Helen or some that were just at the edges of the map.
I have several contract left to finish and a several treasure hunts too.
I moved to Novigrad, the third area (although it and Velen are seamless), and have done a few of the side quests and POI but not started most of them.

I started a story mission called Broken Flowers and when I completed it it said 'Mission Comlete', but awarded no experience. I had been fine up until then.
I think the mission prior to it had turned grey because I was overlevelled so I would have got no experience for that one anyway, or so I believe.

I'm overlevelled for the story anyway at the moment so I could probably do a few missions without missing the XP, but I think I'll just do side quests and contracts and stuff and wait a couple of days for the patch.
 

Jonm1010

Banned
You dreaming up a random hypothetical does nothing to change the fact that game development is complex and problems do occur at the last minute often.

I understand you're frustrated, but you're being unrealistic here.



There is no need to be that petty.

You are the number one poster in this thread. You have none of the big problems people are seeking fixes for. 90% of your posts have been making excuses, rationalizations and frankly, bordering on belittling people that are frustrated. It isn't petty, it's an observation coupled with a suggestion for others.

Well I've been playing it solidly for days with no real problems but last night I think I may have hit the XP bug after the Broken Flowers mission.
I need to test it later to confirm but it certainly seems to have happened.
Guess what?
I'm not having a hissy fit. I'm not furious. It's not game breaking so I'll just do some side quests, contracts, POI's, play Gwent or many of the other unaffected activities.

It's a bug in a huge and complex piece of software. Bugs happen in large complex bits of software. The bigger and more complex the software then the higher the likelihood of bugs occurring.
Get over it and get over yourselves.

They're working to fix it and they'll give us a patch when they can.
The wonders of the modern age mean our games can get bugs squashed fairly quickly by developers. You should be grateful.

When Jet Set Willy was released on the Spectrum it had a collection of genuinely game breaking bugs and you couldn't just download a patch a few days later to make it all better. Even then you never heard the incessantly whining from so called 'enthusiasts'.

Oh but you paid your money . . .you expect it all to work immediately!!!

Well guess what . . this happens in every industry.
Ever heard of cars being recalled to have adjustments made once manufacturers figure out something isn't working or they discover a fault?

Some of you seriously lack perspective and you need to grow up.

It's pretty simple, don't promise something Monday and then when Monday comes tell us Wednesday then go back and change it again.

Much like the downgrade issue it comes down to one simple thing, don't lie. It would solve quite a lot of problems they have ran into from gamers.
 
Yes. It's a conspiracy. All those of us who aren't being petulant about the bug are secretly on the CDPR payroll.

Uh.. you are mistaken. You seem to be going with the line of reasoning that my complaints in this thread were directed at CDPr employees. They were not.

So you telling me that "the complaint has been heard, now what" seems to indicate that you think that I should stop voicing the complaints now that you've heard them, which by the way, is fucking ridiculous, in a thread about the bugs.

I never had intended to have my complaints heard by CDPr on this forum.
 
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Deleted member 325805

Unconfirmed Member
I haven't played in ages, it totally killed my hype. I have 70 hours into it and was absolutely hooked until this bug. Hopefully I can get back into it when it's finally fixed.
 

Zakalwe

Banned
You are the number poster in this thread. You have none of the big problems people are seeking fixes for. 90% of your posts have been making excuses, rationalizations and frankly, bordering on belittling people that are frustrated. It isn't petty, it's an observation coupled with a suggestion.

Didn't realise I wasn't allowed to discuss the issue because I hadn't experienced the glitch.

Also, I've been on the receiving end of worse glitches than this, so I do understand how frustrating it can be.

Constant bitching and making silly absolute statements about the quality of CDPR's talent and character are doing no one any good. Not sure why you're defending that.

I've stated on numerous occasions that I agree there's nothing wrong with making a complaint, but you can do that without getting malicious or overly emotional about it.

It's silly to think it's their responsability to release the game without major bugs?

Well, ok then.

It's silly to ignore the fact these things are complex.

What do you want from them exactly?

They give you a deadline and a problem occurs at the last minute and they're liars or incompetent.

They don't say anything and they're hiding something.

They have a relatively small team for the size of the game, and sometimes bugs are rare or aren't apparent for other reasons until the game is in the wild. Do you understand this?
 
You are the number one poster in this thread. You have none of the big problems people are seeking fixes for. 90% of your posts have been making excuses, rationalizations and frankly, bordering on belittling people that are frustrated. It isn't petty, it's an observation coupled with a suggestion for others.



It's pretty simple, don't promise something Monday and then when Monday comes tell us Wednesday then go back and change it again.

Much like the downgrade issue it comes down to one simple thing, don't lie. It would solve quite a lot of problems they have ran into from gamers.

Ooooh. Your rage is fully justified then. Lol

Well maybe when they said Monday they really thought it would be ready then?
Did you even take five seconds out from your paroxysm of incandescent fury to consider that?

Don't get me started on the stupid downgrade whingers.
 

StarVigil

Member
Man, I hope this patch is good. The game is unplayable for me with all the texture pop-in and bugs *sigh*
All I do is play Gwent. But now I can't even play the game properly even if I wanted to.
And going back to 1.02 doesn't work either since the saves don't support older releases
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Ooooh. Your rage is fully justified then. Lol

Well maybe when they said Monday they really thought it would be ready then?
Did you even take five seconds out from your paroxysm of incandescent fury to consider that?

Don't get me started on the stupid downgrade whingers.

You must think all of us are so fucking stupid if that's what your argument is hinging on. That we didn't consider that the time tables had changed.

Well, no shit Sherlock.
 
Uh.. you are mistaken. You seem to be going with the line of reasoning that my complaints in this thread were directed at CDPr employees. They were not.

So you telling me that "the complaint has been heard, now what" seems to indicate that you think that I should stop voicing the complaints now that you've heard them, which by the way, is fucking ridiculous, in a thread about the bugs.

I never had intended to have my complaints heard by CDPr on this forum.

So everyone knows you're furious now.
Does it make you feel empowered regurgitating the same old rants and vitriol again or do you just need everyone to feel your justified rage at having to wait a few days for a patch?
What is the point of it?
 

Random_Stranger

Neo Member
A car that many people can still drive without a steering wheel ;) anyways are you a console user or PC user? Well I cant comment about the consoles since I am a PC user. The game runs well on my PC. However I would like to believe its more of a hardware issues for consoles. Its subjective matter since some console users have finish the game already as well. Some other users have not.

Im a PC user. My system more then meets the requirements to play, but between camera stutter, Drivers crashing, FPS drops I have yet to put any real time in the game besides trying to get it to run.
 
So everyone knows you're furious now.
Does it make you feel empowered regurgitating the same old rants and vitriol again or do you just need everyone to feel your justified rage at having to wait a few days for a patch?
What is the point of it?

You really need to stop assuming I'm furious or emotional based on the language I use on the internet.

And if you read my posts throughout the thread, I haven't been regurgitating anything. I made my initial comments and was instantly called out for bitching.

Perhaps you should go back and see how it happened.
 
You must think all of us are so fucking stupid if that's what your argument is hinging on. That we didn't consider that the time tables had changed.

Well, no shit Sherlock.

Ha. You're funny.

You know that picture of the Big Mac where it actually looks edible and, well, big?

They aren't actually like that when you get them. Advertising. You'll get used to it one day.
 
Well no one can make you grow up. Hopefully it's something that will happen over time.

Part of being a grown-up is tolerating others opinions even if you dont agree with or like them and refraining from being condescending to them.
People are pissed are about the state of this game and rightfully so.
Take your own advice and do some growing up yourself.
And by the way this is a discussion board for video games and related subjects, not a "kiss the devs asses no matter what they do" board. When devs make mistakes they get criticized and rightfully so.
 
You really need to stop assuming I'm furious or emotional based on the language I use on the internet.

And if you read my posts throughout the thread, I haven't been regurgitating anything. I made my initial comments and was instantly called out for bitching.

Perhaps you should go back and see how it happened.

Or perhaps you could put a teensy bit more care and consideration into how you present your thoughts on the internet?

To be fair, those last ones were aimed at everyone who seems to get anger incontinence as soon as they take to the internet, not just you.
 
Yep, this is just a continuation of the cycle for them. They put their foot in their mouth by over promising and then slowly walk it back without being up front. First it was the graphics, then some of the day one issues and now this.

It's honestly a really disgusting display they continue to put on. Just don't lie! Is it that fucking hard!


You do realizing how hard it is to identify the code that is giving the issue? After finding that code you have to recode it without it breaking anything else in the game. That's something that isn't easily done, especially for a game that is this massive.

No need to attempt to degrade CDPR when they are doing the best they can. They are even keeping everyone in the loop plus daily interactions with all the consumers. What game dev or publisher you can say does that?

No one promised the patch was coming at any days. They said they hoped to have it out Monday. Obviously that didn't happen because maybe something went wrong with the patch to recode the game and it broke something else.

Your only choice with your constant bitching is either to play the game in its current state and avoid the stuff you feel will break the game or shelf it until the patch comes out.


Edit:

And yes I had the game crash on me several times, still doesn't when I play Gwent occasionally. I also has corrupt saves where I had to restart the game. I still managed to redo the entire game and finish it.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Ha. You're funny.

You know that picture of the Big Mac where it actually looks edible and, well, big?

They aren't actually like that when you get them. Advertising. You'll get used to it one day.
This isn't a downgrade argument. This is a discussion about one of the core functions of an RPG being broken in an RPG. It's more frustrating because the game is so good and for many of us the issue cropped up 30+ hours into our game. We don'r want to shelve it. We don't want to be upset. We just want some clear communication and going from having a set date for a fix to maybe getting it over a week later is added frustration.
 
Or perhaps you could put a teensy bit more care and consideration into how you present your thoughts on the internet?

To be fair, those last ones were aimed at everyone who seems to get anger incontinence as soon as they take to the internet, not just you.

No, I don't think I have to do any of that.

My initial posts today was literally:
"Wait, the PC patch is next week now?

Are you fucking serious?"

And the rest was people trying to tell me it wasn't an issue or that people were overreacting or a whole bunch of other things.

I'm pretty sure I conveyed my thoughts properly and accurately.
 

heringer

Member
It's silly to ignore the fact these things are complex.
What do you want from them exactly?

They give you a deadline and a problem occurs at the last minute and they're liars or incompetent.

They don't say anything and they're hiding something.

They had a relatively small team, and sometimes bugs are rare or aren't apparent for other reason until the game is in the wild. Do you understand this?

Who is ignoring that it's complex? Just because I don't use that as an excuse to take away responsability doesn't mean I'm not aware about the complexity. All I'm saying is that it IS their responsability to release the game without major bugs, something that you refuses to aknowledge because apparently game development is a completely wild card and you have no control over QA. Yes they are doing their best to correct their mistake, and that is great, but no more than one should expect.

If they believed they had no responsability over this, their QA process would never get more efficient. Your whole point is a bit silly, I'm sorry. Just because they are doing their best it doesn't mean they have no responsability.

I think they are doing an ok job about this. Not bad, but their communication could be much better. My beef is with people coming in a topic about the patch, getting on their high horses to criticize people who might be overreacting. Someone said that you can complain and not be a dick about it. I agree. But I also think you can tell people to relax and not be a dick about it. Again, I would completely understand the concern if this discussion was in the OT and getting in the way of important discussions, but it's appropriate here, so I don't get why some people feel like they have to rescue the dansel in distress that CDPR apparently is.
 

kmax

Member
What is your source for the week delay?

It's an educated guess. Marcin, the community manager over at CDPR said at the official forums that they'd work on the patch over the weekend if they had to, indicating that the patch probably won't be finished until then.

http://forums.cdprojektred.com/thre...-patch-today?p=1742151&viewfull=1#post1742151

If they finish with the patch during the weekend or early next week, it'll take a couple of days for the certification to process for consoles. It could very well be finished earlier than that, but I think it's more likely that we won't be seeing a patch until next week. Better to keep expectations low.
 
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