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[samn]

" as we work to deliver an updated version of Batman: Arkham Knight on PC"
I'm probably reading into this, but it sounds like this is going to go above and beyond a typical update/patch. Maybe even a version by Rocksteady themselves.
-crosses fingers

Maybe something like that FF MMO?

The game isn't fundamentally broken like that though, they don't need to rebuild the whole thing.

 

[Komo]

I wonder what was the biggest factor in this decision, the refund system or just the bad press?

I'm going to guess the refund system, because now devs know they if they put out subpar PC ports they won't get paid

 

[SRTtoZ]

That's good for people who own the PC version already because it means they will fix the shit out of this because they want to sell more games. Iron Galaxy dun fucked up.

 

[jacobeid]

Like maybe Rocksteady themselves.

busy working on our 6 months of DLC.

Order now for $40.

 

[Sendou]

Was the game broken? I thought it was just worse than the PS4 version.

Sounds broken to me if a PC game is worse than the PS4 version.

Imagine this: Nvidia bundled this game together with GPU's that itself cost more than a PS4.

 

[alr1ght]

 

[s_mirage]

Well, this is pretty much unprecedented. Did no-one at WB play the PC release build before approving it?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

I wonder what was the biggest factor in this decision, the refund system or just the bad press?

Refund. I bet Valve is also pissed about this.

 

[JDSN]

Congrats to game journalists everywhere, you have failed your audience, again.

 

[LiK]

doesn't matter, he's the CEO, guaranteed WB is breathing down his neck

which is probably funny because I'm willing to bet they're the ones who wanted this thing rushed out in this state in the first place

pretty much. RELEASE DAY AND DATE! FUCK IT!

oops

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

" as we work to deliver an updated version of Batman: Arkham Knight on PC"
I'm probably reading into this, but it sounds like this is going to go above and beyond a typical update/patch. Maybe even a version by Rocksteady themselves.
-crosses fingers

We have no clue.

I just hope I can get good performance within a week. Or at least some missing effects. It's playable on my PC, with the 30 cap in place. Occasional stutter while driving quickly or whatnot but I can live with it. I'm 3-4 hours in and I kind of want to keep playing, but also kind of want to hold off until I can get a better experience.

 

[Giever]

Pretty amazing to see. They could've just continued to try to make money, but they're actually shutting down their revenue stream for the time being, and attempting to fix the product.

Makes sense to me. The less people playing it the less people that can legitimately complain about it or point out awful shit. Plus, if they just kept selling it and patching it over the course of a few months, they'll hardly get many more sales that way.

If they take it off of the market, fix it up squeaky clean and release it with a bang a month or two from now, they'll probably get a nice burst of sales, as opposed to dwindling interest.

 

[JRW]

Will it cost $20 more when it comes back up?

http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/batman-arkham-knight-pc-cd-key-steam

 

[malfcn]

What is the qa process like?
Is it the open design of pc that is causing the perf issues or just bad code.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

I wonder if NVidia will do anything for people who got the game through the promotion.

It's not like I can return the game.

 

[d00d3n]

I wonder if they did this mostly for losing money on refunds or to attempt to stop the negative social media spiral they are in. In any case, they made the right decision.

 

[RM8]

Well, this is pretty much unprecedented. Did no-one at WB play the PC release build before approving it?

"Lol we got away with very slowly fixing Mortal Kombat X with 15GB patches, we'll be fine".

 

[Corpsepyre]

This is great news. Lets see if they can churn out a semi-decent version.

The next game I'm looking out for on PC is MGSV, and am super worried about it now. I hope it doesn't meet a similar fate.

 

[Nekrono]

This gives me a slight hope that the major issues (at least) will be resolved somewhat soon since I doubt they want to keep long without the game selling on PC.

I don't have much hope for the missing effects though.

 

[Thorakai]

has something like this ever happened before

 

[Tenebrous]

Refund. I bet Valve is also pissed about this.

How come? The 30% they make on copies sold through Steam for one game isn't that important to Valve.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

Dave Lang having a bad fuckin' week

He'll feel better after he finishes his nightly cycle of getting drunk and posting a couple of dozen selfies on Twitter.

 

[Hoje0308]

This made me actually cancel my refund request for the game. I hope they can fix this.

Why? Either WB knew and thought they could get away with it or they didn't care enough to do proper testing and blindly pushed out a game. In the former case WB are assholes and don't deserve your money, while in the latter they sold a product from a dishonest developer because money is more important than integrity. Fuck that.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Congrats to game journalists everywhere, you have failed your audience, again.

Journalists were provided almost exclusively with PS4 could prelaunch. As soon as PC new got out was widely reported on.

 

[mercenar1e]

are they sending it back to the people that made the PC version? do not let them anywhere near it lol

 

[antitrop]

Probably wouldn't have happened if Steam returns didn't exist.

You're very, very correct.

 

[LordAmused]

This is great news. Lets see if they can churn out a semi-decent version.

The next game I'm looking out for on PC is MGSV, and am super worried about it now. I hope it doesn't meet a similar fate.

Ground Zeroes runs flawlessly. I'm confident it will be alright. Don't betray us Kojima.

 

[Rich!]

Wow, I did not expect this at all. I don't recall this happening before. Are there previous examples of a PC game being so broken that they actually prevent you from buying it?

Good on 'em, though. It's no excuse for releasing it in the first place but I'm glad they're owning up to it and trying to fix it.

has something like this ever happened before

yep, ashes cricket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjGgau3iF8

was recalled.

that video is fucking hilarious, I wish I had the game

 

[Maintenance]

Praise Steam Refunds, doing good work.

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

Hopefully they never use a shit tier studio for ports again. This time it finally bit them in the ass.

Would be funny if QLOC fixed both MKX and this.

 

[ZoltanXerxes]

Do these fucking devs think that somehow, this will be released to the public, get played by millions and yet no one will notice what a botched job it is? At the least Iron Galaxy knew this was complete and utter shit, if WB or Rocksteady did themselves not check the quality of the port I don't quite know what to say. Last I checked, they weren't exactly strapped for cash and a lazy port would hurt much more than paying for competent developers.

This is developers trying their luck, it's happening more and more it seems, broken games at launch are becoming the norm.

I agree. I'm ignorant when it comes to development cycles, but it sure seems that publishers are really pushing the developers to get the game completed in an un-realistic amount of time. The PS4 version runs great from what I heard. I guess that Iron Galaxy was having a tough time with the PC port. I wonder if they asked if they could delay it and WB said no? In any event, I hope this gets settled quickly.

 

[StarVigil]

Surprisingly great news. With Steam refund we can literally vote with our wallets.
Hope that other publishers are watching this and pay attention.

 

[Sendou]

How come? The 30% they make on copies sold through Steam for one game isn't that important to Valve.

They gave it special promotion more than once. In addition if a copy gets refunded Valve technically loses money.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

How come? The 30% they make on copies sold through Steam for one game isn't that important to Valve.

How the hell no? Specially THIS game?

 

[astroturfing]

the term "shitshow" seems pretty accurate, who popularized it anyway, Bill Burr..?

oh yea, what a shitshow. this and the whole Destiny thing. gaming industry get your shit together please. asap.

 

[breakfuss]

Damn, is it REALLY that bad (PS4 copy here)?!?! I would've been pissed had this been my only option. At least the response means they're likely to fix it sooner.

 

[3rdamention]

he's the CEO of IG. he's involved no matter what.

doesn't matter, he's the CEO, guaranteed WB is breathing down his neck

which is probably funny because I'm willing to bet they're the ones who wanted this thing rushed out in this state in the first place

He's like the CEO of Iron Galaxy, so yeah.

Thanks, yeah it hasn't been a good week.. Someone should call him and give him a little pick me up...

 

[CHC]

They weren't kidding I guess. New bottom of their page:

No PC related logos to be found.

 

[Huevos de Oro]

Praise Steam Refunds, doing good work.

And so Thy Lord Gaben shall show us the way.

 

[~Kinggi~]

Makes sense to me. The less people playing it the less people that can legitimately complain about it or point out awful shit. Plus, if they just kept selling it and patching it over the course of a few months, they'll hardly get many more sales that way.

If they take it off of the market, fix it up squeaky clean and release it with a bang a month or two from now, they'll probably get a nice burst of sales, as opposed to dwindling interest.

yeah exactly. Stop people buying it/then refunding it and leaving a bad taste in their mouth. Instead turn it into good PR and upgrade the game and basically re-release it.

 

[Halabane]

Seriously. It's incredible that they let something this bad out the door in the first place, let alone to straight up stop selling it.

THIS and ONLY THIS.

 

[Htown]

Refund. I bet Valve is also pissed about this.

I don't know if they're pissed, but this is definitely the first big, fucked-up game launch since they started the refund service, and I'm willing to bet a really high percentage of buyers decided they wanted their money back.

 

[TheHolyTurnip]

So, AK has been delayed on PC after its release... Interesting...

 

[Thorakai]

yep, ashes cricket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zjGgau3iF8

was recalled.

that video is fucking hilarious, I wish I had the game

is that not how cricket is supposed to be played?

Spoiler

that is hilarious

 

[UberTag]

Congrats to game journalists everywhere, you have failed your audience, again.

But they have made their advertisers happy. That's the important part.
(That and they weren't given an opportunity to preview this botched port.)

 

[7DollarHagane]

I don't expect free shit, i don't expect it to run on max at 60fps on my gtx 670.

I just expect no vsync, no AA, 30fps, all normal, no fancy gameworks.

It mostly does that already except for the parts where it freezes up for a second at a time every few moments.

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

And so Thy Lord Gaben shall show us the way.

Of course, he took YEARS to implement it, and after the Skyrim debacle.

 

[Neuromancer]

Lol what a trainwreck. Sorry PC guys and girls.

 

[Palocca]

A lot of apologies going around today.

 

[Hoje0308]

pretty much. RELEASE DAY AND DATE! FUCK IT!

oops

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