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Games that came out before their time?
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toddhunter
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Like what? The limitations of the PS1 made them insert a number of incredibly bad design decisions relating to pretty much every system in the game?
I think not.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Because after FF13 the older game looks much better.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'd say Grand Theft Auto 1.
Pretty much everything that made the series beloved was there in the very beginning. It just completely lacked the open world 3D graphics that made the series important.
A simple technological advance was all it needed to go from niche curiosity to one of the most successful games, and pieces of entertainment, in history.
Pretty much everything that made the series beloved was there in the very beginning. It just completely lacked the open world 3D graphics that made the series important.
A simple technological advance was all it needed to go from niche curiosity to one of the most successful games, and pieces of entertainment, in history.
Then again... maybe the lower cost of PS1 development was what made projects like these possible.
Lol, GTA 1 was not a niche curiosity and it didn't lacked 3D graphics at all, at the time if was enough and it was amazing.
Neff
Member
Ocarina of Time suffered in terms of overworld size and framerate due to N64's cartridge limitations and processing muscle respectively. That said, Nintendo did an amazing job getting what they did out of the machine.
I'd go with Shenmue as well, although I'm sure Yu Suzuki made the game he wanted to make. I think its reception would have been more positive post-GTAIII, and the influences of open world generally beneficial to Shenmue's development if it had arrived afterwards.
I'd go with Shenmue as well, although I'm sure Yu Suzuki made the game he wanted to make. I think its reception would have been more positive post-GTAIII, and the influences of open world generally beneficial to Shenmue's development if it had arrived afterwards.
EVERYBODY owned GTA one.
It's about as much as a Niche Curiosity as a bag of Doritos
The Praiseworthy
Member
The gaming industry wasn't ready for such a complex characters and story telling like this
Shadow of Colossus on PS2 was mind blowing. Chugging frame rate could not hold back the ambition displayed here. Even to this day not many games can replicate some of the gameplay featured. What other game allows you to shoot arrows at a flying giant bird only to jump onto it's wings to stab it midair?
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Robocop 3 in 1991 on the 16 bit amiga in less than 2.5mb was:
-true mouse + keyboard 3d fps/tps(with the possibility to kill civilians)
-3d fighting game, either first person and third person:
-3d Flying
-Open world driving, you can see the gps(in 1991!) with part of the city map in the low left corner of the second screen.
-in-engine 3d cutscenes
Imo robocop 3 is without doubts the most advanced game of all time, other than a truly awesome game, too bad very few people know it.
-true mouse + keyboard 3d fps/tps(with the possibility to kill civilians)
-3d fighting game, either first person and third person:
-3d Flying
-Open world driving, you can see the gps(in 1991!) with part of the city map in the low left corner of the second screen.
-in-engine 3d cutscenes
Imo robocop 3 is without doubts the most advanced game of all time, other than a truly awesome game, too bad very few people know it.
BigTnaples
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Perfect Dark 64.
Game was perfection, so feature rich, and the attention to detail was insane.
Most games still don't come close, to this day.
Game was perfection, so feature rich, and the attention to detail was insane.
Most games still don't come close, to this day.
Funyarinpa
Member
Was story-driven when shooters had excuse plots at best, had an emphasis on stealth and caution when shooter gameplay consisted of "run into room at 50 mph and blow everything up", had Thief-style emergent gameplay before Thief was a thing, and combined shooter and RPG gameplay at a time when such a thing was unheard of, and had a stupendously advanced engine for a 1994 PC game.
But it's a pretty textbook case of coming out at the wrong time. It was myopically dismissed as a Doom clone, and its system requirements were too steep to reach as wide an audience as its contemporaries. But even shooter fans who could run it weren't interested in much more than running around shooting stuff in the face (not that that's not fun!), and in the end it sold pretty poorly. It's rather ironic in hindsight, since modern shooters take after SS far more than Doom. Hell, Doom 3 cribs more than a few concepts from it and its sequel, and the new Wolfenstein is, well, a story-driven shooter with stealth elements and an RPG-ish upgrade system.
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Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Open world. Day/night cycles. Tons of minigames like darts & arcade machines. Could enter a ton of buildings/ open all drawers & dressers in a house, etc..
This is the correct answer.
daTRUballin
Member
As I've already pointed out in this thread earlier, I think it would've been a good idea if they had made Perfect Dark to be a Gamecube launch title instead of releasing it near the end of the N64's life. I think it would've helped the game out a lot.
You know that there can be more than one answer right?
eso76
Member
Open world games where a reasonably new thing and Mafia was an open world game with a pure story-focus, something the world wasn't ready for. When it came out it was berated by quite a few reviewers for being a GTA 3 clone (which came out a year earlier) and critisized the fact that there was nothing to do in the world outside the story, tragically missing the point of the game. IIRC Eurogamer even issued an apology in the form of a retrospective article before the release of Mafia 2.
Lionhead actually had a system in place for exactly that sort of thing. You could upload your movies from the game to a community website where people could watch, comment and rate videos from others. Just imagine if a sequel could allow users to directly upload to YouTube. My god.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
You know about jokes right?
Turbo Esprit on the ZX Spectrum. A freeroaming game from 1986 where you drive round a city trying to bust criminals. It's the first game of its kind and is believed to be the main influence on gta. It also runs on 48kb of ram.
http://www.giantbomb.com/turbo-esprit/3030-14868/
https://youtu.be/k_rS_iSBOpg
http://www.giantbomb.com/turbo-esprit/3030-14868/
https://youtu.be/k_rS_iSBOpg
EA's Seal Team
The world just wasn't ready for tactical shooter back then and the technology severly limited how much of their vision the developers could acomplish.
Holy crap. That looks like EA tried to make Operation Flashpoint about eight years too early.
RandomSeed
Member
Phantasy Star on the SMS. I love Dragon Warrior on the NES, but compare the gameplay, story, and scope for both of them being released around the same time ('86 and '87 I think). Multiple planets to explore, female protagonist, sci fi blended with fantasy...so ahead of it's time for what was available on consoles. Hell, even the 3D dungeons.
I liked DD, but I don't think that hardware limitations had anything to do with the issues I had with the game. The gameplay was great and the graphics weren't bad by any means. The quest log was god damn aweful though and the game limited the amount of active quests you could pick up. That caused a lot of backtracking.The inventory management could have been improved as well.
Let's put this into perspective:
When a series can sell 24 million copies, selling 2.3 million copies is a niche curiosity.
When The Bible can sell 5 billion copies, a series like Harry Potter is a niche curiosity.
That's not how it works.
TheSpoiler
Member
It still ran like butt playing as a MK or anything with special effects. Framerate wasn't stable, screen tearing, and those hideous black bars.
On the topic of the quest log, you can literally take in every single quest you see on the boards and it won't stop you. I know this because right now I have like 22 and I just took in three more of those "kill that monster" shit. The only quests you can't do more of at the same time are the storyline ones at the first half where they only let you do one or two at a time.
Inventory could have been way better, though. Keeping equipment separate from the items screen was such a pain.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
classic mega man games from the 90s that place in 20XX
I'm going to flip the topic and these games I feel came out too late and would have been more successful coming earlier
Street Fighter III
Beatific 2D animation but released at a time when 3D fighters took over
Suikoden
Great game with a good story and characters and the 108 recruiting character and Castle HQ was unique in a JRPG. However people did not care for 2D dated graphics (though I liked the 2D sprites) especially a game where you can't even walk diagonally. This would have been way more successful if it came out earlier on the SNES.
Street Fighter III
Beatific 2D animation but released at a time when 3D fighters took over
Suikoden
Great game with a good story and characters and the 108 recruiting character and Castle HQ was unique in a JRPG. However people did not care for 2D dated graphics (though I liked the 2D sprites) especially a game where you can't even walk diagonally. This would have been way more successful if it came out earlier on the SNES.
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
Robocop 3 in 1991 on the 16 bit amiga in less than 2.5mb was:
-true mouse + keyboard 3d fps/tps(with the possibility to kill civilians)
-3d fighting game, either first person and third person:
-3d Flying
-Open world driving, you can see the gps(in 1991!) with part of the city map in the low left corner of the second screen.
-in-engine 3d cutscenes
Imo robocop 3 is without doubts the most advanced game of all time, other than a truly awesome game, too bad very few people know it.
Wow! That looks amazing! I
crazyrabbits
Banned
TheRedSnifit
Member
I don't understand how this makes it ahead of its time.
Rushersauce
Banned
Thief 1-2, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, and pretty much any immersive-sim experience back then.
They still feel design wise more complex and forward thinking that what we get now, even if the graphics, UI and animation aren't great. Just the focus on world simulation that goes beyond cosmetic gotta make like a movie design last-gen fetishized, and this gen is only starting to pull away from.
They still feel design wise more complex and forward thinking that what we get now, even if the graphics, UI and animation aren't great. Just the focus on world simulation that goes beyond cosmetic gotta make like a movie design last-gen fetishized, and this gen is only starting to pull away from.