-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Resident Evil 4 HD Project - Progress Thread
- Thread starter crisdecuba
- Start date
- NSFW
I assuming the last one. People generally don't put masonry on the ceiling unless it's decorative.
crisdecuba
Member
If so, then we agree, and it's been fixed already.
boom! there's a good post by Albert in the comment section of the post on the site explaining why it ended up that way to begin with.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Beautiful work matching the original assets wherever possible and tastefully adding where it makes sense to.
Only the wall should stay brighter up to the top to match the ceiling illumination and maybe the brightest spot on the ceiling should be directly above the torch.
Only the wall should stay brighter up to the top to match the ceiling illumination and maybe the brightest spot on the ceiling should be directly above the torch.
crisdecuba
Member
I agree - in the end it may not be possible because there are limits to what we can edit / control, though, but we can try.
Thanks!Barrow Roll
Member
I remember reading somewhere that there are issues with the AO bleeding through fog. Any truth to that?
I didn't check it out extensively enough to see, but it wouldn't surprise me.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Pretty common. I mean it happens often when you force AO in games like Skyrim (unless that's been fixed).
Omg the new sconce model.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA-drxCYPT4
It's like a real 3d object now! So great.
I finally got the game (it was $4 on nuuvem!) so I'm itching hard to see the next demo release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA-drxCYPT4
It's like a real 3d object now! So great.
I finally got the game (it was $4 on nuuvem!) so I'm itching hard to see the next demo release.
crisdecuba
Member
Today I’m posting an update from my work on the first room where you control Ashley.
I was going to post this last night, but I found out about Mr. Iwata's death and so I spent the evening talking with folks about it and thinking about the impact he had on the industry.
I hope you enjoy this work in progress. Thank you, and you can follow the work on re4hd.com.
I was going to post this last night, but I found out about Mr. Iwata's death and so I spent the evening talking with folks about it and thinking about the impact he had on the industry.
I hope you enjoy this work in progress. Thank you, and you can follow the work on re4hd.com.
Thanks! It's been great to see where subtle, but meaningful improvements can be made.
crisdecuba
Member
Thanks for the feedback! I'll make note of this and as time allows I'll re-evaluate what makes the most sense. For me this one is right on the edge of being not stretched enough to warrant deviating from the original (the original real-world indents were more elliptical and not perfect circles either), but we'll see. Thanks again!
The UV and model edits are still so cool to me. It really shows you two are going the extra mile. It's very impressive.
This looks significantly better with your tweak
And this one:
That seems like one of those moments I have a lot in games. I'll see geometry and think "Oh man, that looks great" then get close and see how how its a flat texture and doesn't look so hot up close. But when I have moments where I see stuff like that, get close and there is real geometry! I always get a smile. It adds a little more believablity to the world.
This looks significantly better with your tweak
And this one:
That seems like one of those moments I have a lot in games. I'll see geometry and think "Oh man, that looks great" then get close and see how how its a flat texture and doesn't look so hot up close. But when I have moments where I see stuff like that, get close and there is real geometry! I always get a smile. It adds a little more believablity to the world.
crisdecuba
Member
Resident Evil/Rugrats crossover confirmed.
Seriously this is fucking amazing and I can't wait for the complete project. Capcom should pay you guys like half a million and use the textures for an official free patch. And then use them for a new PS4 port. And then Sony should make a Vita 2 and they should port it to that too. I want RE4 on everything. More everything than it already is.
If so, then we agree, and it's been fixed already.
there's a good post by Albert in the comment section of the post on the site explaining why it ended up that way to begin with.
Aah, ninja'd hard.
RealityCheque
Banned
I have RE4 waiting in my steam queue and I've never played it, as in ever, on anything.
Really looking forward to it but ever since I found out about this project I've been holding on as I'd really like it to be as perfect as possible. So I'll be patient!
Great work you are doing, can't wait to see the finished product.
Really looking forward to it but ever since I found out about this project I've been holding on as I'd really like it to be as perfect as possible. So I'll be patient!
Great work you are doing, can't wait to see the finished product.
Hey Cris, does Albert read this thread? If not I'd want to be sure he knows how excited we all are for this. I'm sure that knowing people are passionate for your work helps you want to work more. Just wanna be sure he knows we appreciate his work as well as yours!
crisdecuba
Member
Not sure if he frequents GAF, but I'll convey the sentiment and send him the link in case he'd like to peruse.
mntorankusu
Member
Hey crisdecuba, I'm really impressed with this project, and I can't wait to play it. I'm actually refraining from playing my Steam copy of RE4 until this is done. But I have one thing I'd like to point out. I'd like to hear your opinion on the issue, because I'm not going to assume that you haven't already thought of what I'm going to say.
Basically, the contrast/levels on your textures don't agree with the originals in many cases. I think they should be adjusted to more closely match. As an example, I quickly did this adjustment:
(it's not perfect, just an example)
Aside from the original levels giving a greater appearance of depth in many cases, the specifics of the colors are a large component of the game's atmosphere. There are a lot of problems with the graphics on the technology side, but the atmosphere is one thing about RE4 that is basically perfect, so I'd suggest that it's probably a straight downgrade (in atmosphere) in any case where you don't adhere to it.
I've been doing texture work as a hobby for a long time and I've created my own HD re-textures from time to time, and the lesson I've learned that helps me the most is: I'm probably not a better artist than the people who created the textures in the first place. I can't assume that any creative decision I make is more appropriate than what the original texture artists did. So I'm especially insistent on following the original colors as closely as possible, because it's the only part of the art that wouldn't have been limited by technology or resources. Unlike the limitations on the quality of the texture itself, there was nothing stopping the artists from picking the colors they wanted, so I'm typically going to take that as gospel and work from there.
Basically, the contrast/levels on your textures don't agree with the originals in many cases. I think they should be adjusted to more closely match. As an example, I quickly did this adjustment:
(it's not perfect, just an example)
Aside from the original levels giving a greater appearance of depth in many cases, the specifics of the colors are a large component of the game's atmosphere. There are a lot of problems with the graphics on the technology side, but the atmosphere is one thing about RE4 that is basically perfect, so I'd suggest that it's probably a straight downgrade (in atmosphere) in any case where you don't adhere to it.
I've been doing texture work as a hobby for a long time and I've created my own HD re-textures from time to time, and the lesson I've learned that helps me the most is: I'm probably not a better artist than the people who created the textures in the first place. I can't assume that any creative decision I make is more appropriate than what the original texture artists did. So I'm especially insistent on following the original colors as closely as possible, because it's the only part of the art that wouldn't have been limited by technology or resources. Unlike the limitations on the quality of the texture itself, there was nothing stopping the artists from picking the colors they wanted, so I'm typically going to take that as gospel and work from there.
crisdecuba
Member
Thank you very much for your feedback, and I appreciate you taking the time to put together the comparison shot. I agree in that instance that an adjustment would be helpful. What I've learned in working on this project with Albert is that even though our guiding principle is to match the original textures, sometimes what we initially come up with doesn't match the original as much as it could (be it in terms of contrast or color).Hey crisdecuba, I'm really impressed with this project, and I can't wait to play it. I'm actually refraining from playing my Steam copy of RE4 until this is done. But I have one thing I'd like to point out. I'd like to hear your opinion on the issue, because I'm not going to assume that you haven't already thought of what I'm going to say.
Basically, the contrast/levels on your textures don't agree with the originals in many cases. I think they should be adjusted to more closely match. As an example, I quickly did this adjustment:
(it's not perfect, just an example)
Aside from the original levels giving a greater appearance of depth in many cases, the specifics of the colors are a large component of the game's atmosphere. There are a lot of problems with the graphics on the technology side, but the atmosphere is one thing about RE4 that is basically perfect, so I'd suggest that it's probably a straight downgrade (in atmosphere) in any case where you don't adhere to it.
I've been doing texture work as a hobby for a long time and I've created my own HD re-textures from time to time, and the lesson I've learned that helps me the most is: I'm probably not a better artist than the people who created the textures in the first place. I can't assume that any creative decision I make is more appropriate than what the original texture artists did. So I'm especially insistent on following the original colors as closely as possible, because it's the only part of the art that wouldn't have been limited by technology or resources. Unlike the limitations on the quality of the texture itself, there was nothing stopping the artists from picking the colors they wanted, so I'm typically going to take that as gospel and work from there.
And so we worked out a system that I think works well. 1) Albert takes the first pass and revises textures based on real world sources and based on his prior work. 2) I take the second pass and revise any textures he didn't get to and review his work to ensure it matches the original as much as possible. 3) He does the same thing for me and makes further refinements. 4) I review his refinements and make any final adjustments needed (in most cases there are no further refinements needed at this stage).
The result is that in step 2 I revise many things, and in step 3 he refines my work. However, the comparison shots shown on the site are generally from steps 1 or 2, and so it's not always going to be as refined as it could be. And even in the end the reality is that it won't be perfect.
This is a longer reply than I originally thought it would be, but I wanted to respond as best I could. Thank you again for taking the time to share, and I will continue trying to push myself in this area. And of course, as we continue sharing updates, please do feel free to provide specific feedback like this. It's helpful.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
things like this really show how you and Albert are going the extra mile. Mad respect!
Even more MAD RESPECT for having the patience and energy to go through such a thorough process!
mntorankusu
Member
The result is that in step 2 I revise many things, and in step 3 he refines my work. However, the comparison shots shown on the site are generally from steps 1 or 2, and so it's not always going to be as refined as it could be. And even in the end the reality is that it won't be perfect.
Gotcha. I thought this might be the case, but I wanted to toss my opinion out there. Thanks for the reply.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I always have praise for the work you've been ouputting. Keep it up!
crisdecuba
Member
Hi everyone. Need some help. I'm away from home for the next month so I'm working on the project using a friend's spare computer, however I can't seem to get the game to launch (it crashes on startup). Based on what I've researched online, I disabled anti-virus software, verified the integrity of the install, updated video drivers, tried running Steam in admin mode, tried running the game in windowed mode, and reinstalled DirectX.
I'm not sure what else to try or how to go about troubleshooting. Anyone have any ideas? Here's what the Windows error message says:
Sigh... anything?
Edit - I tried another game (Kingpin because it's a fast download) and the same thing happened. On the other hand, Portal works fine...
I'm not sure what else to try or how to go about troubleshooting. Anyone have any ideas? Here's what the Windows error message says:
Code:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: bio4.exe
Application Version: 1.0.18384.1
Application Timestamp: 53510f46
Fault Module Name: bio4.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.18384.1
Fault Module Timestamp: 53510f46
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0057a32f
OS Version: 6.3.9600.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 5861
Additional Information 2: 5861822e1919d7c014bbb064c64908b2
Additional Information 3: 3a20
Additional Information 4: 3a20a93c34687143a5bf7d33f1cf3cccSigh... anything?
Edit - I tried another game (Kingpin because it's a fast download) and the same thing happened. On the other hand, Portal works fine...
crisdecuba
Member
Hi everyone. After finally figuring out the issue above, I have some updates to share from the second area in Ashley’s section of the game. Enjoy the work in progress, including some UV Mapping / 3D model edits! (and you can keep up with the project at re4hd.com
Could you share how you fixed it? Might be useful for people in the future if they run into a similar problem, or if I end up with a similar problem when I get to try the full pack!
Also, as always, god damn. Great work. Just a 100% straight upgrade.
crisdecuba
Member
I found a different computer to use. ;-) And thanks!!
brickarts295
Member
You are doing god's work sir, I already held off my 1st playthrough (didn't play it but I saw my uncle playing during GC release) of RE4 to wait for this.
^KreygasmHi everyone. After finally figuring out the issue above, I have some updates to share from the second area in Ashley’s section of the game. Enjoy the work in progress, including some UV Mapping / 3D model edits! (and you can keep up with the project at re4hd.com
After this is all over I'm going to take a good hard look at items from all angles now.
I love linking these images to a friend of mine who's a big RE4 fan and watching him react, lol
crisdecuba
Member
Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. The reason it is the way it is is because that's the actual crest Capcom created / used for the game. It's in the artbook that comes with the UHD version. So that's what we used in manually creating the HD version.
Ah, I didn't realize that. In that case I suppose it's best to follow the source material.
demosthenes
Member
crisdecuba
Member
Albert just put up a post showing purely some of the 3D edits / UVMapping edits that have been done in the earlier rooms of the castle. There are 30+ screenshots in there, so I'm just quoting a few here. The rest are at re4hd.com
Similar threads
- Poll