and people in some countrys starve to death, so people that dont cant ever be unhappy/get depressed right? Thats how it works?
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Do we have to worry about Notch?
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and people in some countrys starve to death, so people that dont cant ever be unhappy/get depressed right? Thats how it works?
He could build a new company, work in a new project, do charity, help someone with community work, work in a NGO, do some courses, study gastronomy or art, travel around the world etc.
Sorry but I have zero sympathy for him, there's millions of thing you can do while filthy rich while not exposing yourself as a filthy rich person.
Sorry but I have zero sympathy for him, there's millions of thing you can do while filthy rich while not exposing yourself as a filthy rich person.
Well, we don't personally know him so no.
However, others that know him should though.
People with sudden success and wealth will self-destruct if they have never experienced such a lifestyle.
I knew someone who became a millionaire within a short amount of time and lost it all when he spent it on girls and drugs.
He became depressed, didn't know what to do with his money, and just decided to say fuck it all.
I became distanced with him because I didn't want to nag or keep monitoring on him everyday. I felt that I am annoying him with my calls to remind him to take care of himself.
He thought I was only helping him out because of his money, so I cut my friendship with him since I was getting annoyed too that he wasn't taken any advice and better himself. Why waste my time in trying to help someone who didn't care in the first place?
After that experience with him, I became a cynical person in trying to reach my hands out to other.
But yeah, serious shit with money if you don't have the mental toughness for it.
I think Notch should do what other rich people are doing.
Donate their money and helping people for a good cause.
Find that spiritual or emotion cause that you can put your name and legacy toward it.
Bill Gates realized that being known as one of the rich people in the world was pointless, and rather gave almost all of his wealth after his death to his foundation instead.
However, others that know him should though.
People with sudden success and wealth will self-destruct if they have never experienced such a lifestyle.
I knew someone who became a millionaire within a short amount of time and lost it all when he spent it on girls and drugs.
He became depressed, didn't know what to do with his money, and just decided to say fuck it all.
I became distanced with him because I didn't want to nag or keep monitoring on him everyday. I felt that I am annoying him with my calls to remind him to take care of himself.
He thought I was only helping him out because of his money, so I cut my friendship with him since I was getting annoyed too that he wasn't taken any advice and better himself. Why waste my time in trying to help someone who didn't care in the first place?
After that experience with him, I became a cynical person in trying to reach my hands out to other.
But yeah, serious shit with money if you don't have the mental toughness for it.
I think Notch should do what other rich people are doing.
Donate their money and helping people for a good cause.
Find that spiritual or emotion cause that you can put your name and legacy toward it.
Bill Gates realized that being known as one of the rich people in the world was pointless, and rather gave almost all of his wealth after his death to his foundation instead.
This is a very shitty attitude and you should read through the entire thread to get some better perspective. Because your views suck right now.
I raised an eyebrow at that. Like the only reason she wasn't into him was because of the money? And the other guy was "normal".
I feel for the guy and the culture shock this has to be. To me it's just the absurdity of what he's upset about. Like if this were a joke account some of those tweets would exactly be what I would expect. Folks dismissing the mental issues he's no doubt going through are kind of dicks, but the way the tweets do make me do a double take.
The same can be said about almost everyone on NeoGAF. If you have the means and time to post on an internet forum about video games, you are likely in a privileged position compared to the majority of the world's population. It is also likely that you are living in a developed country that provides more food, healthcare, education, and opportunity than most of the people on the world have access to.
Yet, that's no reason to wave away issues of mental health or lack of orientation life. These are real, no matter if you are in a privileged position relative to the majority of people on this globe nor not. By the logic you propose, Modbot should close the Mental Health OT with the note that "Y'all should be grateful and stop whining."
charlequin
Banned
I mean, personal improvement is hard. A large portion of all people never manage it to any significant degree. You need to change how you think, break all your daily habits, inure yourself to pain and embarrassment for the long-term good, and take lots of risks that each individually are downright terrifying. Once you set out on that path it's still a long, long road to bear any fruit.
(Also, finding a good therapist is incredibly difficult, and a bad one might actually be worse than nothing.)
WickedLaharl
Member
Today i learned that if i just get enough money or move to a third world country i'll no longer be bipolar II. I'll never forget that embarrassment and shame i felt when i told someone about my mental health issues 25 years ago and how people would react negatively. Looks like we still got a ways to go.
MotionBlue
Member
My estranged father had a similar problem. He sold his construction business for enough to jump several tax brackets(Obviously not as high as Notch). He didn't know what to do for the first 2 years of his early retirement. Year 3 it struck him that he could do everything and anything he wanted to do the first 40 years of his life.
Year 4, he now has his pilots license and private jet. Mansions in 5 different countries. 3 sports cars(Lamborghini Diablo included). He is now considering a PhD in electrical engineering.
He and his friends act more like 20 year olds. Notch should try that.
Year 4, he now has his pilots license and private jet. Mansions in 5 different countries. 3 sports cars(Lamborghini Diablo included). He is now considering a PhD in electrical engineering.
He and his friends act more like 20 year olds. Notch should try that.
Theanine3D
Member
Notch has more than enough money to get the best psychiatric help that money can buy. I'm not worried.
I have a friend with bipolar who can't even afford the treatment for his condition, and it's impacted his ability to keep a job or pay rent for years now. I'll worry about him, not Notch.
Depression absolutely sucks, but unlike many people out there, Notch actually has tons of resources and opportunities available to help him. If and when he decides to get help, I trust that he will. He's a grown man with the ability to think and make decisions for himself, not a child.
I have a friend with bipolar who can't even afford the treatment for his condition, and it's impacted his ability to keep a job or pay rent for years now. I'll worry about him, not Notch.
Depression absolutely sucks, but unlike many people out there, Notch actually has tons of resources and opportunities available to help him. If and when he decides to get help, I trust that he will. He's a grown man with the ability to think and make decisions for himself, not a child.
Things he could/should do that will occupy his time, present daily challenges and rewards, and help him feel accomplished every day:
1. Start a small coffee shop in a quaint village somewhere and run it himself.
2. Start a game development studio and make the most wild and imaginative games. Huge or small in scale - it doesn't matter.
3. Purchase property and grow a large garden. Attempt to see how efficient he can make it (number of crops per square yard).
I would personally stay away from hobbies like RC planes and cars and that kind of thing because they are often money dependent. He could start day 1 with the biggest and best things.
1. Start a small coffee shop in a quaint village somewhere and run it himself.
2. Start a game development studio and make the most wild and imaginative games. Huge or small in scale - it doesn't matter.
3. Purchase property and grow a large garden. Attempt to see how efficient he can make it (number of crops per square yard).
I would personally stay away from hobbies like RC planes and cars and that kind of thing because they are often money dependent. He could start day 1 with the biggest and best things.
Do you know who is a terrible therapist ? twitter
Definitely worth opening the thread back up for this post. People are blind to the other side of the coin, let alone what might be going on in his private life or mental health due to the situations he finds himself in. Especially for someone who has had their life so intertwined with an internet community that he would talk to, having some of them turn on him as well will no doubt be difficult on top of everything else
ChosenPredator
Banned
he's probably good but it'll be blown up on the internet. ( I would imagine having that much money is jarring though so who knows)
DirtyLarry
Member
I actually do not believe the lack of empathy on display towards Notch has to do simply with the fact he is now "rich" as much as it has to do with the fact it is what he did when he became rich.
I know a lot of people viewed his purchases and overall actions as exactly what NOT TO DO when one comes into huge amounts of money as he did. Many people would like to believe they would not do what he did, although it is worth noting many people will in fact only get to think about what they would do, as for 99.9% of us, we will simply never know.
So because of the perception he did everything wrong, seeing him now complain about "everything," I am pretty sure a lot of people out there are thinking "you made your bed, now sleep in it."
Simply put, it is hard for people to feel sorry for someone they feel are in their current position because of their own decisions and actions.
And make no mistake about it. No one has the right or the ability to judge his decisions. But they will.
I know a lot of people viewed his purchases and overall actions as exactly what NOT TO DO when one comes into huge amounts of money as he did. Many people would like to believe they would not do what he did, although it is worth noting many people will in fact only get to think about what they would do, as for 99.9% of us, we will simply never know.
So because of the perception he did everything wrong, seeing him now complain about "everything," I am pretty sure a lot of people out there are thinking "you made your bed, now sleep in it."
Simply put, it is hard for people to feel sorry for someone they feel are in their current position because of their own decisions and actions.
And make no mistake about it. No one has the right or the ability to judge his decisions. But they will.
While money is not a prophylaxis for mental issues such as depression, he has nigh unlimited resources available to him to combat his problems.
While I don't think it's fair to openly ridicule an obviously ill person who's suffering, he might be wise to invest some time in seeking therapy rather than wasting it venting on Twitter.
Twitter seems to aggravate mental issues, rather than solve them, even if it might feel good initially.
While I don't think it's fair to openly ridicule an obviously ill person who's suffering, he might be wise to invest some time in seeking therapy rather than wasting it venting on Twitter.
Twitter seems to aggravate mental issues, rather than solve them, even if it might feel good initially.
What Notch should really do is drop the party lifestyle, leave his lavish comforts behind, and go into the wild on a motorcycle road trip of self-discovery from New York to Brazil.
To everyone saying he's known and would be recognized : please, show me a pic of Notch and I wouldn't even know who he is, same for probably 95% of the world's population.As long as he doesn't present himself with a '' hey, im notch, a millionaire who made minecraft and sold it for millions'' he should be fine.
Notch, you're bored and have nothing to do? If I had all of his money i'd pretty much just be walking outside everyday and start giving out money to the homeless outside.
Where I live, you can take the metro and i'll guarantee you'll see at least one of them at every station, a old skinny man holding a ''please I need to eat'' sign. i'd probably throw a bunch of 100$ bills , hug them, and i'd feel soo happy later. Man, I wish I could do that with every single one that I come across
You need new friends? You need to either go outside and talk to people more (which is way easier said than done, seriously) or if you're so bored, you can go back to school, study in something you find interesting, talk to the people in your classes ( you don't need to say ''hey i'm notch and I have millions'') and make friends this way.
Maybe i'm being too simplistic here, i'm just saying what I would do in his situation.. He could also hire some help, etc. Hope he gets better. But as always i'd say that making someone's else days better would make his own better, too.
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Notch, you're bored and have nothing to do? If I had all of his money i'd pretty much just be walking outside everyday and start giving out money to the homeless outside.
Where I live, you can take the metro and i'll guarantee you'll see at least one of them at every station, a old skinny man holding a ''please I need to eat'' sign. i'd probably throw a bunch of 100$ bills , hug them, and i'd feel soo happy later. Man, I wish I could do that with every single one that I come across
You need new friends? You need to either go outside and talk to people more (which is way easier said than done, seriously) or if you're so bored, you can go back to school, study in something you find interesting, talk to the people in your classes ( you don't need to say ''hey i'm notch and I have millions'') and make friends this way.
Maybe i'm being too simplistic here, i'm just saying what I would do in his situation.. He could also hire some help, etc. Hope he gets better. But as always i'd say that making someone's else days better would make his own better, too.
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I couldn't believe those photos of the post sale mansion/party. My first thought was "This will not end well."
Your outlook on things is mindboggling
Icyflamez96
Member
He should become an electronic music producer
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
As somebody who's been doing exactly this for a decade now, at a very high cost (and not just a financial one, as you imply), I can attest that it is indeed extremely hard. There's no shortage of people who want to help you, many of them with pure intentions, who in hindsight have no idea what they're doing or turn out to be ill equipped to handle your particular kind of problem, and the only way to learn how to tell the difference between them and others who actually have a shot at helping you is by saying goodbye to tens of thousands of dollars and (much more importantly) many years of your life.
But that's what life is for millions and millions of us, at the end of the day: a constant struggle to better ourselves and survive long enough so that we may try to find some sliver of an answer to very difficult fundamental questions about who we are. It's a process that's at the very core of the human experience. And once you've given it some thought, you realize that it's also far more valuable to humanity than money, even if on an individual level many of us will fail in our own personal journey. Life is fucking hard man, and many of us are one or two poorly thought out decisions away from depression or even worse. It's part of the difficult reality we live in, and certainly something we should all strive to make easier for everybody.
Xal-Shoota
Member
I think people have every right to complain about him acting this way, not because he feels lonely and depressed, but because he says its stemming from this giant pile of money he has now.
If that's really a problem that's caused by the money, all he has to do is fine a few good places to donate all of it, and reset his life almost back to the way it was financially. Then suddenly, he becomes a relatable working dude that needs to create to survive again. Maybe that would light his fire again?
If that's really a problem that's caused by the money, all he has to do is fine a few good places to donate all of it, and reset his life almost back to the way it was financially. Then suddenly, he becomes a relatable working dude that needs to create to survive again. Maybe that would light his fire again?
Wow
case closed guys, sherlock knows whats up
Because hes a famous person it has to be a publicity stunt? Really?
Icyflamez96
Member
Become the next dead mouse
Used to volunteer at my local centre dealing with all kinds of problems that day to day people would have from homelessness to immigration to all kinds of problems that I wouldnt wish on my worst enemy.
To some extent I can see why some people would find it hard to sympathize with a nerd billionaire who in his short time of wealth and fame has seen and experienced more comfort than most people will know in their life time.
Tweeting about it also epitomises this privilege, in a way sort of brings into the sharp relief the degrees of suffering people suffer, I guess its all a matter perspective
As for Nocht, well what can I say to a man who has everything....
Hang in there?
To some extent I can see why some people would find it hard to sympathize with a nerd billionaire who in his short time of wealth and fame has seen and experienced more comfort than most people will know in their life time.
Tweeting about it also epitomises this privilege, in a way sort of brings into the sharp relief the degrees of suffering people suffer, I guess its all a matter perspective
As for Nocht, well what can I say to a man who has everything....
Hang in there?
Icyflamez96
Member
Become legend
Wowfunhappy
Member
I don't think Notch is quite so famous that you'd recognize him walking down the street. It should be possible for him to live a "normal" life if he wants to. He'd probably have to sell that massive LA mansion, however.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
EviLore, excellent post. Hats off to you.
Ding ding ding. This is at least a significant part of the issue. People always seem to react negatively towards stories with celebrities or rich folk saying something negative about their situation. At least part of that has to be somehow linked to our culture's absurd overemphasison and obsession of wealth and status.
For now, I'm calling you disgusting. How's that? Your attitude towards this is completely and utterly appalling.
He would have to change his name too.
He could live with me, I don't think he's that great.
Majukun
Member
yeah..pretty much
if changes and money bother him so much,there are ways to go back where he was
LookAtMeGo
Member
If I had that kind of money I would disappear. Build myself a nice house in butt fuck rocky mountain country.
Hope he pulls though his problems. Overcoming adversity makes us stronger. Its something we all have to do. I'm sure he will figure out a way.
Sure not having to worry about paying the bills would be nice. At least that's something that keeps most of us busy. I can't say I wouldn't want that luxury. I wish I was a billionaire but I'm not blind to the fact that being rich doesn't automatically fix all of life's problems. In many cases it just creates more.
Hope he pulls though his problems. Overcoming adversity makes us stronger. Its something we all have to do. I'm sure he will figure out a way.
Sure not having to worry about paying the bills would be nice. At least that's something that keeps most of us busy. I can't say I wouldn't want that luxury. I wish I was a billionaire but I'm not blind to the fact that being rich doesn't automatically fix all of life's problems. In many cases it just creates more.
Do you really think you can just dump off that much money without consequences?
Majukun
Member
never had the problem of not knowing how to spend my money..but now I'm genuinely curious..what's the obstacle?
pinkurocket
Member
You still need the drive and courage to actually step out and do those things, even if you are filthy rich.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
I'm curious to know this too
More Fun To Compute
Member
If he was a real introvert he would be thinking how awesome it was to not have to interact with people and would be having the time of his life.
Really I'm not sure what exposing these thoughts to the public when it's likely that they will be reported widely is good for. Is this really a problem that is going to be solved for him by crowdsourcing or something? There is a disparity between how much attention he can get and how much attention people in more desperate situations can get. if that doesn't trigger some sort of twinge of justice in you because you think that Notch is your personal friend or something then I don't know. Maybe he is your friend and you should worry about him.
Really I'm not sure what exposing these thoughts to the public when it's likely that they will be reported widely is good for. Is this really a problem that is going to be solved for him by crowdsourcing or something? There is a disparity between how much attention he can get and how much attention people in more desperate situations can get. if that doesn't trigger some sort of twinge of justice in you because you think that Notch is your personal friend or something then I don't know. Maybe he is your friend and you should worry about him.
Money is always good but there are some conditions where money is completely useless, like some forms of cancer and depression. Sure, you can use it to seek good doctors and so on, but sometimes it wont help a lot, otherwise Steve Jobs and Robin Williams would still be alive. Some mental conditions like anxiety and panic attacks don't even have a cure yet so even with all the money in the world you wont be able to run from it, just lower the effects.
We don't know if Notch suffers from depression, so it's really hard to judge whats going on. One person can be the happiest of all and an incredible cool guy in front of the cameras or in front of a group of friends and when he is alone he can just feel completely miserable.
We don't know if Notch suffers from depression, so it's really hard to judge whats going on. One person can be the happiest of all and an incredible cool guy in front of the cameras or in front of a group of friends and when he is alone he can just feel completely miserable.
wanderingprostheyltite
Member
I'd prefer the happier version of the motorcycle road trip
Maybe Notch doesn't dig travel much being a techie, maybe he's already done a ton of it (Ibiza lol), but there is something to be said for getting away from hustle and bustle places like LA and hitting the open road and soaking in the journey and just absorbing all the new places you come across. Really does help clear the cobwebs especially if you go somewhere less urban. I know tech withdrawal is an issue for some people but it is helpful to get away from it all and travel somewhere off the beaten path. It's helped friends and I when we've felt in a rut before. Having a traveling companion helps tho.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Couldn't he just give all the money to charity and go back to his previous lifestyle if on the whole it was better than this one? I mean if the money is the problem and he doesn't feel it can be fixed by throwing money at it, then why not donate it all to charity and start work on a new game while working at Denny's?
See that is the problem I have when people talk about coming into money ruining their life. I don't think I've ever seen any of them get rid of the money to return their life to what it was, at least not intentionally.
See that is the problem I have when people talk about coming into money ruining their life. I don't think I've ever seen any of them get rid of the money to return their life to what it was, at least not intentionally.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Good thread to use when the arguments of "people aren't total assholes who care disproportionately about money" come up.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
I don't have billions so I don't know, but if I did, I'd would have a financial planner that could assist with that.
And honest to God, donate whatever amount of money you can and be done with it. Say "fuck off" to anyone that says you're being cheap. Who are they to judge you when you're donating? why is he even wasting more time considering those people that are making snide comments about the amount he's donating?. I certainly don't need to know what he's donating or any of celebs/athletes/rich people for that matter.
Basically in the end, he should get off Twitter and stop worry about what everyone else is saying and do something, ANYTHING, WHATEVER that is. Go lead a quiet life and figure your shit out.