Yup. The guys at Disney will likely be more willing to let Feige spend more than Ike. This will prove beneficial for Infinity War.
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"Marvel Money" about to actually mean something: Feige restructures Marvel Studios
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The shaky cam made it better for me. It was shaky cam done right. The shaky cam wasn't used to hide bad choreography like in Batman and Hunger Games, it added a kinetic feel to it.
The bottom one is from behind the scenes or something.
Schweinehund
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I would think so, but it's probably not going to be anything big. We'll probably see more consistency in actors at the least.
Yeah, I agree. The shaky cam used in Winter Soldier didn't seem excessive and it didn't really hide/obscure the action. If it would have reached Jason Bourne level stuff that would have been bad
Fudgepuppy
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Perlmutter is like the most curmedgeony name ever.
DonasaurusRex
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sure hope so because cheapo space vikings look is lame, bring on the LoTR look and gimmie my queen of norn!
You should be hyped. Feige's won't be limited by Ike's cheap ways financially (which should benefit movies like Thor: Ragnarök & Avengers: Infinity War), & Feige overall can do more of what he wants.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I'm still holding out for Branagh to return for Ragnarök.
It's better news for just about everybody (ideally, anyways)
Ike was already looking for lookalikes to replace most of the cast.
Schweinehund
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Thor should have the biggest budget after Avengers. Thor was everything I should have liked (fantasy, norse mythology, magic) but ended up being the most disappointing of the franchises (well excluding hulk).
I really don't like their take on magic, especially with what Feige has in mind with Dr. Strange being about physics.
TheSecondSpitter
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Not sure that's the route Feige will take with Strange -- if Loki and Wanda have magical powers why can't Strange?
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I realize that it's popular to portray Ike as a Super-villain and that he's probably a dick, but I still feel like I should be more concerned that one of the people primarily responsible for Marvel's success in the last ~20 years is losing his power.
Bobby Roberts
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Both of 'em are basically out of the picture, now. Arad went first. Now Perlmutter.
Both of 'em apparently got in Feige's way one time too many.
TheSecondSpitter
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This new state of affairs probably improves the possibility of Marvel making a bona fide to require the f4 rights.
EdReedFan20
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Maybe, but he might want some sort of break. He's been in at least one Marvel movie every year since 2011: 2011- Captain America, 2012- Avengers, 2013- Thor 2 cameo, 2014- Captain America 2, 2015, Avengers 2 and Ant-Man cameo, and 2016- Captain America 3. If you ignore his cameos, apart from 2013, he's had a major role in a Marvel movie every year since 2011.
Schweinehund
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This is what he had to say
Kevin Feige said:
Do audiences really hate the idea of magic? I'd hate to see Shazam be science instead of magic.
Don't highlight alternate dimensions as if all of Dr.Strange's stories in Strange Tales weren't alternate dimensions: the anthology.
It'll visually and conceptually be magic with a background explanation by some non believer or something being scientific. People get their panties bunched up too much about this.
It'll visually and conceptually be magic with a background explanation by some non believer or something being scientific. People get their panties bunched up too much about this.
Schweinehund
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I just feel like the explanations are unnecessary and it ends up leading to more questions. Magic to me is about imagination and fun, trying to put logic behind it changes how I view it completely. I guess the closest thing to it would be midichlorians and the force. It doesn't ruin the film for me or anything like that, I don't see the point in it other then trying to ground the film more when it's concept is inherently fantastical.
Extra Sauce
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I'm fine with that approach. Reminds me of Thor being an extra dimensional alien instead of a god. Ultimately it hasn't been a significant change.
PhoncipleBone
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Arad had lost his shine with Sony after the ASM movies didn't perform as well as they wanted. Ike was seen by many as a tight wad.
Meanwhile, Feige is portrayed as the man with the vision and has hit after hit. He was pulling in the cash and there wasn't much negative word out about him compared to the other guys. So Feige got the money people to give him more control.
Am I getting it right?
hodayathink
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He's not talking about Arad while he is/was at Sony. Arad was the head of Marvel Studios before Feige was. Sony was the job he took after that.
Father_Brain
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Well, we'll see. I certainly hope so, that's more or less how Thor 1 and the Avengers films handled it (actually, I can't recall whether the Avengers films had anything at all contradicting Thor being an actual god), but TDW in particular really felt like the work of someone uncomfortable having unambiguously supernatural characters exist in the MCU.
DonasaurusRex
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yes it was significant and im beginning to think cheaper . The real change wasn't asgardians being aliens, they are in the comics too, they are no different than the kree or eternals. However they had an affinity for magic not advanced tech and their other gifts were par for the course they were naturally long lived, strong, resilient etc etc in various tiers. The asgardians were god's in the comics in the same vein as a poly theistic being was truly natural but of a higher order not a purely magical or non physical being.
Outside of Ghost Rider type characters that are spiritual/transcendent to the physical, the entirety of the marvel universe is some form of a purely natural world magic is controlling natural forces with artifacts and words, the celestials, relics, the worlds tree, the nexus of realities all that is still within the context of a purely physical tho augmented world. From the Beyonder down to Mole Man lore has created other classifications of power, so the power cosmic, or the Odin Force for example. But none of it was outside of the realm of molecules, atoms, etc etc save for GR who is purely gonna trash everyone if ever let loose.
That said, changing the RELATION of the asgardians to their magiks has been a worthless change and a chore at most that just brings up more questions than answers half the time. A good move would be to literally ignore the other two films and do a great, ensemble cast Journey Into Mystery type film about Ragnarok.
The whole magic vs tech nonsense isn't even the issue its missing the nature of the asgardians and other of the 9 realms that sucks for the films and makes a mess of it all. Missed opportunity for your own fantasy realm within the larger multi dimensional setting of all the MCU films.
There is a non physical world in marvel and what makes Strange cool is he does it all, mental plane, dimensional travel, and even some transcendent reality tripping. But to just wipe half of that off the table is silly when the METHOD used by Strange to interact with all these different settings is what can be constrained and the possibility for expansion INTO those settings can be kept.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/09/02/the-marvel-creative-committee-is-over
According to Devin Faraci and El Mayimbe, the Marvel Studios shakeup also includes the breakup of the Marvel Creative Committee.
So basically Ike and the Marvel braintrust, not Feige drove Wright off Ant-Man? Interesting if true.
EDIT: It also doesn't surprise me that Ike would be one vetoing Black Widow toys.
According to Devin Faraci and El Mayimbe, the Marvel Studios shakeup also includes the breakup of the Marvel Creative Committee.
So basically Ike and the Marvel braintrust, not Feige drove Wright off Ant-Man? Interesting if true.
EDIT: It also doesn't surprise me that Ike would be one vetoing Black Widow toys.
Sounds like great news all-around.
BronsonLee
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Ike thinks making girls toys are too expensive
You have to make a new mold and everything!
You have to make a new mold and everything!
I mean, he's a billionaire businessman. If Trumpmentum has taught me anything, he's mentally competent to be the leader of the free world
No. Just stuck in the 50's.
E the Shaggy
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Well at least Brian Michael Bendis can always fall back on Sony's Powers...HAHAHAHA
Well, that would gel with the rumors last year that the Ant-Man notes were coming from above Feige's head.
So does this mean that Feige can give the directors more freedom (looking at Wright and Whedon) in making the movies?
Pretty much, yeah. If I recall, Feige's idea is that so long as the director follows the main basic plot points that he has in mind, the director can do whatever else they want to do with the concept. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Feign begs Wright to come back and direct Wonder Man. Pls.
Hopefully this means that the upcoming movies won't be just setups (i.e. Avengers 2) for the next movies.
E the Shaggy
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Simon Pegg as Simon Williams.
James Gunn pretty much said that he's dodging this as much as possible in relation to the Infinity War films. Hopefully the same applies to the other Phase 3 films.
Paddy Considine as Grim Reaper.
E the Shaggy
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Oh God, I really hope that's not how this came about. I would imagine the lukewarm reception of Age of Ultron may have set off alarms.
Freedom = $1.05
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couldve used this before Avengers 2. What a letdown that mess was
Same. Hopefully the way Civil War came out isn't the reason for all of this.
Pai Pai Master
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It's probably something that has been brewing for a while. If it was the creative committee's fault for pushing Wright away, I'm sure Feige would have been wanting them out of the picture for some time now.
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