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PS4 Firmware 3.0 Features

Danneee

Member
3.0 and we're still stuck with not being able to group games and stuff in folders. I don't even need the current 500gb of storage as I can't be bothered to have more than a handful of games installed at a time.
 

NekoFever

Member
Not sure what you're getting at...doesn't PNG use a lossless compression algorithm?

All PNG's are compressed, think of it as the equivalent to the FLAC format(or apple lossless) in audio. Lossless format, but still uses a compression algorithm.

BMP would be a uncompressed and lossless image file, but the file sizes would be enormous, like .WAV in audio.
There are two types of PNG compression. PNG-24 is full lossless compression and designed for photos and screenshots. PNG-8 uses indexed colour like GIF (limited to 256 colours) and is designed for simple graphics, but with better compression and transparency support than GIF. The latter is not lossless.

But it would be pretty inexplicable for Sony to use PNG-8 here.
 
Sony should have added TV recording. Instead they offer us groups/communities, game event notifications, additional game streaming/sharing options. WTF Sony!?

I'd prefer the others long before they give me a TV recording feature - I have a TV, PC and a set-top box for that - game-related/social features are far more important on a games console for me.

PNGs, extra storage, GafGroups(!) and Youtube streaming integration are welcome.

It would be a great way of adding BC though, don't you think? Anything you've already bought digitally and is on PSNow is yours to play for free. I don't think it would take that much away from PSNow considering it isn't really for console owners.

This is what they should do for PS3 games (of course, I want proper PS1/2 BC) give free licences to users who already bought the games as a goodwill gesture, and create good word-of-mouth for PS Now. Streaming isn't my first choice, but a couple of my friends think it's brilliant, but over-priced.

So is this PSiiverse?

I'd be very careful trying to Google that.
 

panty

Member
10GB is plenty enough. My biggest saves are like 150MB including profile options.

Fuck yes. Amazing update.
 

Nesther

Member
You can remove 0% Trophies since 2.50.

That's because there are no trophies on the servers to delete, you're just deleting shit on the users end. Deleting single/all trophies would be an infrastructural mess with lots of risks.
It is sadly not worth it, just to appease a tiny fragment of OCD trophy hunters, even though I wouldn't mind it as well.
 

FerranMG

Member
It's cool to have more storage, but will it still be a pain in the ass to remove files from that storage?
The last time I needed to do some clean up, it was horrible having to reload the list of games every time I removed one file.
 

Nesther

Member
It's cool to have more storage, but will it still be a pain in the ass to remove files from that storage?
The last time I needed to do some clean up, it was horrible having to reload the list of games every time I removed one file.

Ugh, that is indeed a huge annoyance. Only being able to do one thing at a time and those long reload times make it even worse.

Now that we get 10gb I won't have to bother with it as much though.
 

Theman2k

Member
You can delete 0% games, you cannot delete any games where you have achieved a trophy though.

That's progress but it's not good enough.
Trophy hunters like me, which get a lot of fun and satisfaction from it, want to manage their lists. Including the ability to delete a trophy list for a game which it's servers went offline and made it that you can't ever platinum the game.

Or maybe friends coming over to your home with some games, and after seeing the game it poops a trophy after the first minute, and it's there forever to stay in your trophy list.

grrrrrrrrrr, I would actually pay for trophy managment abilities :(
that's how bad i want it !
 

OccamsLightsaber

Regularly boosts GAF member count to cry about 'right wing gaf' - Voter #3923781
That's because there are no trophies on the servers to delete, you're just deleting shit on the users end. Deleting single/all trophies would be an infrastructural mess with lots of risks.
It is sadly not worth it, just to appease a tiny fragment of OCD trophy hunters, even though I wouldn't mind it as well.

0% trophies are sync across all your PS devices not just locally. They exists on a database table on Sony's servers. Just because a trophy is locked doesn't mean its state only exists locally.

That's progress but it's not good enough.
Trophy hunters like me, which get a lot of fun and satisfaction from it, want to manage their lists. Including the ability to delete a trophy list for a game which it's servers went offline and made it that you can't ever platinum the game.

Or maybe friends coming over to your home with some games, and after seeing the game it poops a trophy after the first minute, and it's there forever to stay in your trophy list.

grrrrrrrrrr, I would actually pay for trophy management abilities :(
that's how bad i want it !

Then completion percentage will become a joke. I saw a bloke with 100% completion a few days ago with about 30 games. I know for sure they didn't just delete all their unfinished games and that made it all the more impressive.
 
I'm with you brother :(

This is hand down my most wanted feature since 2008.

And people here saying it won't happen, make me feel worse and I hope their wrong on this.

I just want to get rid of Destiny @___@

I also don't play PS+ games I'm unsure of because I don't want to risk not liking them and being stuck with them at like 2% on my trophy list.
 
I'm with you brother :(

This is hand down my most wanted feature since 2008.

And people here saying it won't happen, make me feel worse and I hope their wrong on this.

I also don't feel like they would waste time on this, does not make sense to delete something you earned.
 

Dishy

Unconfirmed Member
Storage is an awesome and unexpected feature. Thanks!
But where is my Appear Offline toggle, a notification when friends come online? Really easy things to implement, right? Sony, please :(
 

Theman2k

Member
Then completion percentage will become a joke. I saw a bloke with 100% completion a few days ago with about 30 games. I know for sure they didn't just delete all their unfinished games and that made it all the more impressive.

How does it become less impressive ?
Deleting lists for unfinished games don't have anything to do with games you actually 100%.
You just mange your lists in a more pleasing to the eye way, and doesn't obligate you to play a game to 100% if you don't want to just to fill your list.
 

Nesther

Member
I also don't feel like they would waste time on this, does not make sense to delete something you earned.

They've also officially commented on and defended the fact that it's staying at 0% only. Upholding the sanctity of trophies and such.

This is really something people shouldn't keep their hopes up for. It's one of the most unlikely updates to make it in.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Increased storage is a nice quick fix. Hopefully it buys enough time for them to fix it properly.

I would still like online saves to be available for all users on a PS+ machine though. Everything else is shared but saves are only for the subscriber. My kids should be able to have their saves backed up

Also, better syncing please. If you can auto sync as well as Xbox one does, then I'll buy another ps4 to play when the living room TV is in use.
 

TP-DK

Member
Ugh, that is indeed a huge annoyance. Only being able to do one thing at a time and those long reload times make it even worse.

Now that we get 10gb I won't have to bother with it as much though.

Even worse is if you have replaced the hdd or gotten a new ps4. Wanna download all your saves? Nah one at a time. And if you dont have the game installed you cant doqnload the save for it.
 

Tainted

Member
Events - Meh
YouTube live - Meh
Online storage capacity increase - Meh*
Favourite Groups - Meh
Communities - Meh
Sharing video clips to Twitter - Meh
Live from PlayStation - Meh
PNG Screenshots - Alright I guess
Now Playing - Meh
Request to watch - Good feature, however, I'd probably never use it
Stickers - Meh

Obviously I'm not overly fussed about this feature list. The UI needs alot of work imo and that power saving notification from a cold boot is fast becoming the new clock meme for the PS4

...and please fix the goddamm Netflix dimming after 20mins issue**

* Only because I dont sub to PS+
** I realise this may be a Netflix issue, but Im sure the Sony F/Ws broke it
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
10GB is plenty enough. My biggest saves are like 150MB including profile options.

Fuck yes. Amazing update.

Enough for you. There are plenty of saves which are 3-500MB.

Even with enough space they need to sort that out. Maybe separate actual saves from replay or customisation data, which is what I assume is taking up so much space on the big ones.
 

Kudo

Member
Obviously I'm not overly fussed about this feature list. The UI needs alot of work imo and that power saving notification from a cold boot is fast becoming the new clock meme for the PS4

I use turn off all the time and I don't get those notifications. Do you mean if you unplug it completely from power it gives those notifications again?
 
How does it become less impressive ?
Deleting lists for unfinished games don't have anything to do with games you actually 100%.
You just mange your lists in a more pleasing to the eye way, and doesn't obligate you to play a game to 100% if you don't want to just to fill your list.

Exactly!

While the idea that the person has completed every game he owns could look good, to me it just says that he doesnt play many games or cant afford to buy too many and so has more time to play the ones he does own.

If someone seeing that you played a game and didnt enjoy it is enough to make you look bad, than that says a lot about you personally. I have tonnes of games that have only a few % trophy wise because i either didnt like them, borrowed them, didnt want to go for the trophies or had something better to play. I also over over 60 Platinums and 6000 trophies total so in my mind that kind of outweighs any negativity that someone might see when looking at my trophy list.
 

Theman2k

Member
They've also officially commented on and defended the fact that it's staying at 0% only. Upholding the sanctity of trophies and such.

This is really something people shouldn't keep their hopes up for. It's one of the most unlikely updates to make it in.

STOP ! your killing me :(
 

Vanguard

Member
Hurray for 10GB storage, about time. But as others have stated this won't be enough, I think it will reach max capacity before the consoles lifetime, especially if more games arrive with 100-300MB save files.
 

Tainted

Member
I use turn off all the time and I don't get those notifications. Do you mean if you unplug it completely from power it gives those notifications again?

Nope....just starting up from a normal powered off mode (as opposed to from suspend). I never unplug it from the power point
 

Nyx

Member
So, what about online notifications for friends?

That really seems like the most basic feature but it's still missing.
 

Kudo

Member
Nope....just starting up from a normal powered off mode (as opposed to from suspend). I never unplug it from the power point

That's weird, is it known issue? I think I got the notifications once on all my accounts and haven't seem them since that, and I have all Power Saving settings turned off so the system turns itself off completely always.
 

Tainted

Member
That's weird, is it known issue? I think I got the notifications once on all my accounts and haven't seem them since that, and I have all Power Saving settings turned off so the system turns itself off completely always.

I don't know how widespread it is...but last time I mentioned it on GAF, alot of people 'me too'd' Also a quick google indicates that it is relatively widespread

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http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PS4-Support/Disable-Discover-notifications/td-p/23128196

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/30owpj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/3224n3/screenshot_does_anyone_else_get_this_annoying/
 
Good update. Nice to see the Plus money get invested in more essential cloud storage.

I'm looking forward to the PS4 Gaf communities too. Should be much easier to get some Raids or squads in Battlefront going.

So, what about online notifications for friends?

That really seems like the most basic feature but it's still missing.

Maybe it can never be implemented.
Like changing PSN names or cross game party chat on PS3.
 

Kudo

Member
I don't know how widespread it is...but last time I mentioned it on GAF, alot of people 'me too'd' Also a quick google indicates that it is relatively widespread

http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PS4-Support/Disable-Discover-notifications/td-p/23128196

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/30owpj/

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/3224n3/screenshot_does_anyone_else_get_this_annoying/

Try turning on Rest Mode and put your PS4 to sleep, then disable the Power Saving settings and turn it off again, maybe it just wants you to use the sleep once?
Hopefully Sony will fix it cause that's really annoying, sorry for off-topic.
 

DryvBy

Member
Events - Meh
YouTube live - Meh
Online storage capacity increase - Meh*
Favourite Groups - Meh
Communities - Meh
Sharing video clips to Twitter - Meh
Live from PlayStation - Meh
PNG Screenshots - Alright I guess
Now Playing - Meh
Request to watch - Good feature, however, I'd probably never use it
Stickers - Meh

Obviously I'm not overly fussed about this feature list. The UI needs alot of work imo and that power saving notification from a cold boot is fast becoming the new clock meme for the PS4

...and please fix the goddamm Netflix dimming after 20mins issue**

* Only because I dont sub to PS+
** I realise this may be a Netflix issue, but Im sure the Sony F/Ws broke it

You think the UI needs a lot of work? After playing on an Xbox One this past weekend, I'm very happy with the PS4's UI. That thing is a laggy mess.
 
Try turning on Rest Mode and put your PS4 to sleep, then disable the Power Saving settings and turn it off again, maybe it just wants you to use the sleep once?
Hopefully Sony will fix it cause that's really annoying, sorry for off-topic.

Done that multiple times and still the notification shows up for me.
 

Tainted

Member
Try turning on Rest Mode and put your PS4 to sleep, then disable the Power Saving settings and turn it off again, maybe it just wants you to use the sleep once?
Hopefully Sony will fix it cause that's really annoying, sorry for off-topic.

Just tried that and it didn't fix it, it was worth a shot anyway :)

It's probably just one of those things that takes about 5 seconds for Sony to fix...but as its such a minor issue it is probably at the bottom of their priority list.
 
I actually liked it before the update but they may have changed it due to marketing reasons. The Vertical banner layout they had was unfairly bias towards towards the first screen which can only fit like 3 game pics.

This is still my favorite store.
psn_store_1.jpg

That update to the classic web store browser was so smooth on ps3.

Damn you, for a minute I thought PixelJunk Monsters was getting a PS4 release :(
 

Kudo

Member
Just tried that and it didn't fix it, it was worth a shot anyway :)

It's probably just one of those things that takes about 5 seconds for Sony to fix...but as its such a minor issue it is probably at the bottom of their priority list.

Yeah given that not everyone is affected it probably haven't made it to their ears yet.
Would assume that it's fixable somehow by reinstalling the System Software but I think that's overblowing it would require to backup and all, better just hope they fix it in future.
 
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