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South African retailer lists The Bioshock Collection (PS4/X1) for November release

What OS problems are you alluding to ? Bioshock 1 works without issues on my PC (W10 + latest drivers).

Well ignore what I said then. I'd often heard of Bioshock having issues on win 8+, I think I even remember the Steam store page mentioning it?

But maybe that's changed now. Onto my Steam Xmas sale list it goes!
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Bioshock 1 and 2 run on UE2.5.

To be clear, Bioshock 1 and 2 are both based on the exact same coding, pre 2007. There's no excuse to not hit 1080p 60 with the highest settings for both PS4 and XB1.

2K did great work on the borderlands collection(patched of course), so i have hope about this.

Infinite may be much newer, but i also am pretty sure through a mixture of settings, they could hit an approximation of high settings at 1080 60 as well.

All DLC and i'm in.

As much as i have no real taste for Bio 2 and Infinite being a disappointment for the amount of years and budget they had, they are still huge worth the cost in a collection
 

Lonely1

Unconfirmed Member
Well, I just played Bioshock 2 for a bit (been in my backlog for ages!) and it runs without issues, other than garbled sound at the 2K & Nvidia logo. The game runs at very high framerate for me, I can't tell the exact number (100'ish? 144hz Nvidia Sync monitor). However, the animations seems to be locked at 30fps, which translate into a very uneven, perceptual low framerate experience overall. Games hasn't aged very well.

This collection would be worthwhile if:

- They increase the framerate of animations.
- The increase the resolution of per-rendered cinematics, which look laughably bad compared to the game maxed at 2K.

I finished Bioshock for first time recently (About 2 years ago) on a 570GTX and didn't looked that dated at the time.

Bioshock Infinite still looks amazing, though.
 

Izcarielo

Banned
I think its impossible not to get these games running at 1080/60fps in ps4/xbone
Even my toaster can run them at those specs
I mean, they purposefully would need to lock the fps at 30 if the wanted it to be at that framerate because otherwise it would go as high as 100 or so i guess
 

Bloodrage

Banned
Well, if they're this close to release, and we've seen nothing, I have a bad feeling about just how "remastered" they'll be. Dishonored level? If so, pass.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Well, I just played Bioshock 2 for a bit (been in my backlog for ages!) and it runs without issues, other than garbled sound at the 2K & Nvidia logo. The game runs at very high framerate for me, I can't tell the exact number (100'ish? 144hz Nvidia Sync monitor). However, the animations seems to be locked at 30fps, which translate into a very uneven, perceptual low framerate experience overall. Games hasn't aged very well.

This collection would be worthwhile if:

- They increase the framerate of animations.
- The increase the resolution of per-rendered cinematics, which look laughably bad compared to the game maxed at 2K.

I finished Bioshock for first time recently (About 2 years ago) on a 570GTX and didn't looked that dated at the time.

Bioshock Infinite still looks amazing, though.


Bioshock1 didn't look dated because its art style is actually good enough to hold up. Bio 2 can't say the same
 

CHC

Member
Not surprising news, though I think these games have aged really poorly, they feel very clunky and clumsy to play and are full of ugly textures and bloom. Definitely classic Unreal Enging 7th gen flaws.
 
I have a feeling we won't get 60fps.

Obviously it'd be easy for 1 and 2, but with Infinite they'll probably want to go for the "wow" factor for comparison shots, meaning graphics over performance.

This obviously doesn't necessarily prevent them from doing so the the older titles, but it also makes it way more noticeable switching between them... Infinite will probably also be at the forefront of marketing, unless they do some borderline remake shit to 1 (not happening)

I'd accept 30fps for the old ones if they do some legit upgrades to it, but it'll probably just be a barebones port

If you set the expectations low, it's harder to be disappointed
 
I have a friend who mentioned she was working on an HD remaster for 2k. Considering the studio she works for has only done FPS games Bioshock was the first thing I thought of. She of course confirmed nothing.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
BioShock looks great with some ambient occlusion injected but that's probably asking too much of a typical port effort.
 

Tagyhag

Member
I have a feeling we won't get 60fps.

Obviously it'd be easy for 1 and 2, but with Infinite they'll probably want to go for the "wow" factor for comparison shots, meaning graphics over performance.

This obviously doesn't necessarily prevent them from doing so the the older titles, but it also makes it way more noticeable switching between them... Infinite will probably also be at the forefront of marketing, unless they do some borderline remake shit to 1 (not happening)

I'd accept 30fps for the old ones if they do some legit upgrades to it, but it'll probably just be a barebones port

If you set the expectations low, it's harder to be disappointed

Infinite runs at 60fps on a toaster though, even all maxed. I'd find it hard to believe that they couldn't get that on next gen consoles.
 
Infinite runs at 60fps on a toaster though, even all maxed. I'd find it hard to believe that they couldn't get that on next gen consoles.
We can hope, I suppose. It all depends on how much effort they actually want to put into it. If this is seriously coming in two months and they've said nothing, I'm not expecting much. (would love to be proven wrong, though)
 
Got all three of them with DLC on PS3. Havent played the DLC for 1 & 2.


If this is an awesome remaster like Borderlands Handsome Collection, will buy. If it is like Dishonored, will keep my PS3 ver.
 
If it comes with Bioshlock Infinite then I expect it to be 20% cheaper than if it came with just Bioshock 1 and 2. Or at best, have game as a separate disc so I can then throw the Bioshock Infinite disc out the window.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Not surprising news, though I think these games have aged really poorly, they feel very clunky and clumsy to play and are full of ugly textures and bloom. Definitely classic Unreal Enging 7th gen flaws.

That's not true. Bioshock 1 has a great art direction that keeps it looking amazing, even if its an old game. As for being clunky and clumsy to play, i never understood the issue with Bio 1's gameplay to begin with, so that's just me//
 

Tagyhag

Member
We can hope, I suppose. It all depends on how much effort they actually want to put into it. If this is seriously coming in two months and they've said nothing, I'm not expecting much. (would love to be proven wrong, though)

Yeah true, Dishonored also runs on anything and that was only 30.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
...they both have the same art style, tho.

Not even close. Places like fort frolic and steinman's area, Medicare Pavilion, and the green beauty of Arcadia are a world apart from Bioshock 2's randomly placed scrawl of broken metal and flooded alleyways.
 
Wtf people really hated infinite?? I thought that game was awesome.

I really enjoyed 1 and Infinite, i never played 2 or any dlc for any game. Would definitely pick up a collection
 
Wtf people really hated infinite?? I thought that game was awesome.

I really enjoyed 1 and Infinite, i never played 2 or any dlc for any game. Would definitely pick up a collection

Infinite (base) had solid, but confining gameplay, and a story that "thought" it was fairly smarter than it really was. It wasn't terrible or anything, but I got a little overhyped at some point.
 

Roufianos

Member
Sounds good.

I've always wanted to replay Bioshock because I feel like I was too young to fully appreciate it back when it came out.

I'd also like to give Infinate another try. I loved the opening but gave up once the actual gameplay started.
 

cyba89

Member
The first, Infinite and Burial at Sea are all fantastic games. Still haven't played 2 and Minervas Den.

But I own all of them on PC so if those are only 1080p/60fps (or 30fps) upgrades I'm not the target audience for this.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Infinite (base) had solid, but confining gameplay, and a story that "thought" it was fairly smarter than it really was. It wasn't terrible or anything, but I got a little overhyped at some point.

Bioshock Infinite was Ken Levine's Ghost in the Shell Innocence.

Should never have made a sequel to either of the two originals.
 

KevinG

Member
The complaints about Infinite's gameplay always bring me out of he woodwork to defend. Play it on 1999 mode and stretch your use of resources and gameplay tactics.

Bioshock is my favorite game of all time. Infinite met my expectations on both a story and gameplay standpoint. Does retrospect make me evaluate Infinite a bit harsher than in 2013? Yes, but it still shines in my book. A testament of amazing art direction and storytelling.

Bring on a remastered collection.
 

KevinG

Member
Not even close. Places like fort frolic and steinman's area, Medicare Pavilion, and the green beauty of Arcadia are a world apart from Bioshock 2's randomly placed scrawl of broken metal and flooded alleyways.
I would agree with this sentiment. Bioshock 2 felt "off" but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy my time with it.
 
My wrench is ready

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I hope this leads to them fixing Bioshock 2 on PC. :| It's not broken but there are issues that need to be addressed, like the audio.
 
Infinite runs at 60fps on a toaster though, even all maxed. I'd find it hard to believe that they couldn't get that on next gen consoles.

So did Dishonored. This isn't about the consoles' ability to handle the ports unfortunately, it's about how much time and optimization whatever studio that is working on this remaster is willing/paid to put into it.
 
Bioshock, my love! I never got to play Minerva's Den, either, so it'd be great to finally have the opportunity. I have to admit I'm a bit soured on Infinite, but it's still a gorgeous game.
 

angelic

Banned
Word. I know some people don't like its messing with storylines, but I enjoyed the story and the stealth gameplay in part 2 is awesome

it absolutely destroys the main game, horrible treatment of its universe. it plays well but the narrative is like someone sent you a turd in the post for your birthday
 

mjp2417

Banned
Infinite runs at 60fps on a toaster though, even all maxed. I'd find it hard to believe that they couldn't get that on next gen consoles.

This isn't entirely true. Just looking at benchmarks, a 7870 is only hitting in the low to mid 40's with everything maxed. It probably should be able to run 1080/60 on a PS4 on High, but definitely not on Ultra.
 
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