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Street Fighter V Roster Discussion: P-P-P-P-PATTERN BREAKER

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I-hate-u

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So what's the two worst characters introduced in each series of Street Fighter? I'm limiting it to two as 4 has so few new characters.

2: Dee Jay, T. Hawk
Alpha: Juni, Juli
3: Gill, Remy
4: Fuerte, Rufus

2: Cammy, Blanka
Alpha: Juni/Juli, Mika
3: Elena, Twins
4: Rufus, Poison

I am living life dangerously in this thread. I am getting my shield ready.

Edit:
5: Laura.
 
Tekken 3 is pretty much the prime example of how you progress a storyline- create a new main character, and not lose your audience... in fact it's still the highest selling Tekken title.

I thought Mark of the Wolves did a fantastic job in that regard too, with Terry (and Kapwan kids) being the only reps from previous fatal furies... of course that game had an even smaller following than Third Strike though. :(
 

Crocodile

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There were so many issues surrounding the relative lack of success of Street Fighter 3 (Arcades were on the downswing, 3D was starting to get big, etc.) that I'm not sure if the take away should be "let's be very conservative with the roster" rather than just "lets be more conservative than we were with SF3". There's a spectrum there and I don't think they needed to be as far on the conservative side as they are being - times are different.

Personally speaking, I would think Honda and Rog are more well known than Urien. Even if they didn't know the character by name, all of the SF2 cast are differently more recognizable than any of the other SF characters introduced later in the series.

Honda's stage and gameplay(lol) were in a Family Guy episode.

Again, well known =/= popular. Not that I'm arguing Urien is more popular than Honda because I don't have numbers on me but just because more people know Honda doesn't mean they actively care about Honda.

I am with you on the redesign part . which is why am surprised people are Hating on Vega and Gief instead of Cammy.

Nah count me on the Cammy "hate" (I use that super loosely) train. They played it way too safe with her. Safer than it looks like they did with Vega and Gief (who look to have some very obvious gameplay changes).
 

kirblar

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MKX showed the entire number of new characters SFV has in its first (gameplay) showing.
MKX's DLC model is very different.
Nah count me on the Cammy "hate" (I use that super loosely) train. They played it way too safe with her. Safer than it looks like they did with Vega and Gief (who look to have some very obvious gameplay changes).
They pretty clearly didn't have any interesting ideas for her- she's in because she's hyper-popular and an OG.
 

Shadoken

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So what's the two worst characters introduced in each series of Street Fighter? I'm limiting it to two as 4 has so few new characters.

2: Dee Jay, T. Hawk
Alpha: Juni, Juli
3: Gill, Remy
4: Fuerte, Rufus

Lol pretty much. Am willing to bet money none of these guys are making it to SF V. Though id swap Gill for Twelve. Gill had a pretty nice boss feel to him.
 

I-hate-u

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1. Joe, Mike
2: Blanka, E. Honda
Alpha: Sodom, Birdie
3: Sean, Makoto
4: Rufus, El Fuerte

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The reaction for Gief,Vega would still be the same even for characters like Dudley,Cody,Ibuki or w/e.

Not fair to compare New/Non-SF4 characters and returning characters. I mean you just said SF4 is the first entry for many , so characters like Birdie,Mika are new.

Juri was in SF4. I am quite confident that the reaction for her would murder the reaction for Gief or Vega. She is very popular, and thanks to SSF4+ selling multi-millions, she is also pretty darn familiar now.

We've gotten to the point where including the entire WW roster is no longer necessary. There are now other characters who are both popular AND familiar (Juri), rather than just familiar (Honda).
 

pizzacat

Banned
Why do newcomers matter that much when old characters are getting drastic changes? I think people are going too far with the appearance of the game and not how it actually plays.



Exactly my point. Capcom is straight changing how longtime characters are playing.
There was so many people championing mika and Karin and I legit only see 1/3rd of those people continuing to post here


Or even post in the beta thread for that matter. Some people come to sf for the designs I guess

Or the story since it's going to be "big"
 

Hubb

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There was so many people championing mika and Karin and I legit only see 1/3rd of those people continuing to post here


Or even post in the beta thread for that matter. Some people come to sf for the designs I guess

Or the story since it's going to be "big"

I didn't champion either of those two characters (come on Juri!), but I don't post here all that often anymore. Thread moves way to fast so I just lurk.
 

Spman2099

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So, where is everyone getting the timeline from? I have been following the game very closely and I don't remember a single mention of when it takes place. Is this just popular speculation?

As for the worst of each release...

2: T. Hawk, Blanka (worst character in the series, in my opinion)
Alpha: Dolls (boring), Birdie (I think he should count as a new character here)
3: Necro, Twelve
4: Seth, Rufus (both of these characters are almost as bad a Blanka... almost)

It would have been amazing if they kept it to, like, five Street Fighter 2 characters. Oh well, it is what it is.
 

histopher

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Whoa, didn't realise all the hate for Juli/Juni. I would love for them to come back in SFV. Make them both into a single character fighting at the same time.
 

Shadoken

Member
Juri was in SF4. I am quite confident that the reaction for her would murder the reaction for Gief or Vega. She is very popular, and thanks to SSF4+ selling multi-millions, she is also pretty darn familiar now.

We've gotten to the point where including the entire WW roster is no longer necessary. There are now other characters who are both popular AND familiar (Juri), rather than just familiar (Honda).

Yea but they aren't picking unpopular characters like Honda or Thawk. Gief and Vega have pretty big fan bases. Especially gief is a fan favorite .Even if vega is slightly less popular than Juri his mainstream appeal balances it out. Not saying Juri is bad pick , but these weren't too bad either .


Maybe they should have gone for Sagat over sim.


Whoa, didn't realise all the hate for Juli/Juni. I would love for them to come back in SFV. Make them both into a single character fighting at the same time.

If they were added with some kind of tag team mechanic people would be interested . People hate them because they are generic canny clones.
 

Pompadour

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Lol pretty much. Am willing to bet money none of these guys are making it to SF V. Though id swap Gill for Twelve. Gill had a pretty nice boss feel to him.

I love Gill's dialogue but his playstyle seems pretty obvious, aside from his Resurrection super. I like Twelve because of his playstyle although he won't be in V because of how hard it would be to do him 3D outside the Xrd engine.
 

Shadoken

Member
I love Gill's dialogue but his playstyle seems pretty obvious, aside from his Resurrection super. I like Twelve because of his playstyle although he won't be in V because of how hard it would be to do him 3D outside the Xrd engine.

He's a good boss but a bad playable character , if that makes sense.
 

DR2K

Banned
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the initial roster is going to be bigger than 16 at the rate of these reveals.
 
So, where is everyone getting the timeline from? I have been following the game very closely and I don't remember a single mention of when it takes place. Is this just popular speculation?

As for the worst of each release...

2: T. Hawk, Blanka (worst character in the series, in my opinion)
Alpha: Dolls (boring), Birdie (I think he should count as a new character here)
3: Necro, Twelve
4: Seth, Rufus (both of these characters are almost as bad a Blanka... almost)

It would have been amazing if they kept it to, like, five Street Fighter 2 characters. Oh well, it is what it is.
The easiest way to follow the SF timeline is to look at Ken. He met Eliza in Alpha, married her in 2, his son was born in SF4 and his son is learning how to fight under him with Sean in SF3. Also I believe Urien says Shadaloo has fallen in 3
 

Spman2099

Member
Whoa, didn't realise all the hate for Juli/Juni. I would love for them to come back in SFV. Make them both into a single character fighting at the same time.

I don't "hate" them. I think they are bland. Personally, I think they could very easily be turned into more interesting characters. I also agree with the tag team sentiment; that would be pretty cool. Unfortunately, R. Mika has already sorta moved in on that territory (at least a little).

I definitely think their look is better than Cammy's... Mainly because their clothing choices aren't waging war on their vaginas...
 

Forkball

Member
2: Cammy, Blanka
Alpha: Juni/Juli, Mika
3: Elena, Twins
4: Rufus, Poison

I am living life dangerously in this thread. I am getting my shield ready.

Edit:
5: Laura.

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2: Dee Jay, T. Hawk
3: Necro, Sean
4: Fuerte, Rufus
Alpha: Juni, Juli

Also where is the Dhalsim rumor coming from? Someone called Zangief and Dhalsim?

SAVE US ZEN
 

Neoxon

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2: Dee Jay, T. Hawk
3: Necro, Sean
4: Fuerte, Rufus
Alpha: Juni, Juli

Also where is the Dhalsim rumor coming from? Someone called Zangief and Dhalsim?

SAVE US ZEN
No Dhalsim rumor to my knowledge, just speculation based on his playstyle. I know there was one rumor list with him in it, but it had too many characters in it.
 

Spman2099

Member
The easiest way to follow the SF timeline is to look at Ken. He met Eliza in Alpha, married her in 2, his son was born in SF4 and his son is learning how to fight under him with Sean in SF3. Also I believe Urien says Shadaloo has fallen in 3

So this is informed speculation then? Okay, cool. I think that is probably correct (unless this is the revival of Shadaloo or something). I keep seeing people mention it like an established fact and I was wondering if I had missed something.
 
Remy's rival battle conversation with Alex is so stupid it hurts.

"Why do you fight? I HATE FIGHTERS! Lets fight!"
Remys whole character is dumb "I HATE FIGHTING AND IM GONNA PUT MY SISTERS DEAD BODY IN ICE AND FIGHT A BUNCH OD PEOPLE." Who are you Remy? Who even are you
 

Spman2099

Member
Remys whole character is dumb "I HATE FIGHTING AND IM GONNA PUT MY SISTERS DEAD BODY IN ICE AND FIGHT A BUNCH OD PEOPLE." Who are you Remy? Who even are you

But that is the best part about him! He has the best unintentionally funny ending in a fighting game!

God, the writing in that ending is too good!
 
So this is informed speculation then? Okay, cool. I think that is probably correct (unless this is the revival of Shadaloo or something). I keep seeing people mention it like an established fact and I was wondering if I had missed something.
The only speculation is where V takes place. The rest of the timeline is 100% canon, if V is anywhere it's more than likely be before 3 and show the fall of Shadaloo.
 

Wild Card

Member
Personally I haven't been posting in these threads much because I was thoroughly satisfied when Karin got announced, so I am at peace, thirst quenched and all that. My own reaction to the Gief reveal as I saw that thread title was "huh, gief's in,okay" and then I saw the trailer and was like yeah that Zangief. Pretty underwhelming, but it's not like I don't like Gief though. So that's my own perspective on it.
 

Lulubop

Member
So, where is everyone getting the timeline from? I have been following the game very closely and I don't remember a single mention of when it takes place. Is this just popular speculation?

As for the worst of each release...

2: T. Hawk, Blanka (worst character in the series, in my opinion)
Alpha: Dolls (boring), Birdie (I think he should count as a new character here)
3: Necro, Twelve
4: Seth, Rufus (both of these characters are almost as bad a Blanka... almost)

It would have been amazing if they kept it to, like, five Street Fighter 2 characters. Oh well, it is what it is.

WSO stream, it take place before 3.
 

Tizoc

Member
Someone translate this please?
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Also notice on the right how there isn't a wave color for Gief unless he and Ken share it :p
 

Tripon

Member
I am so hyped for SCR. Other than SFV, it's one of the last premier CPT events for the North American Region. Will Snake secure his spot and defend his turf, or will the away players come with the heat?

Spoiler alert:
Japan wins, again.
Canada Cup is in the North American region.
 
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