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[Troy]

Yeah....except people do.

And those people get the choice of putting one in. The real question is why other companies don't give us the choice and why are we stuck with a moronically awful battery. Choice wins.

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

Yeah....except people do.

No, we don't.

 

[xxracerxx]

And those people get the choice of putting one in. The real question is why other companies don't give us the choice and why are we stuck with a moronically awful battery. Choice wins.

I do wish they gave you a choice in the matter.

 

[moai]

The terrible ds4 battery has destroyed my last gen line of thought about the battery topic.

 

[malfcn]

The grips the same as the Lunar?

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

The grips the same as the Lunar?

Yes. They both have the rubberized grip.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Yes. They both have the rubberized grip.

That sexy diamond grip feels so good.

 

[SyenceLabb]

This is probably the sexiest controller I've ever laid eyes on. Really tempted on pulling the trigger on this. I may check a few stores on launch day and see if I can get lucky. Otherwise, I will try to hold off until the first sale comes around.

 

[Karamsoul]

I see the option for the controller for adjusting stick sensitivities using the app, but the real question is whether we can adjust the stiffness of the sticks physically on the controller itself. The too-twitchy sticks on the current Xbox One controller are REALLY off-putting for me and many others - prefer the stiffness of the Xbox 360 sticks.

Anyone who has tried the Elite controller - have they resolved this concern? Or is there a way to make the sticks physically more stiff?

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

considered for PC, but not paying $150 and still requiring a battery solution thats another $25

 

[Head.spawn]

considered for PC, but not paying $150 and still requiring a battery solution thats another $25

How would you go about hooking it up to your PC?

Wireless adapter is another $25.
If you plan on going wired, then you don't need or require a battery solution that's another $25... or regular batteries for that matter.

 

[irrotational]

This is probably the sexiest controller I've ever laid eyes on. Really tempted on pulling the trigger on this....

I hope that was a deliberate pun!?

 

[diablos991]

considered for PC, but not paying $150 and still requiring a battery solution thats another $25

Use the included USB cable. Not many sit that far away from their PCs.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Prolly too optimistic but I'm hoping for a BF deal.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

So going by IGN's pros and cons, this controller has no cons?

Rechargeable AA batteries > Internal rechargeable

Price? It's the cheapest "Pro" controller going around despite being the only first party one. That's a pro.

 

[internetwolf]

will the existing rechargeable pack work in this?

 

[Zxrophantom]

LOL at batteries being listed as a con. My eneloops are better than your silly rechargeables.

If i'm paying $150 It should come with the kit. If you don't want to use it you don't have too. Just like half the features that controller offers.

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

will the existing rechargeable pack work in this?

Yes, it's compatible with the existing kit.

 

[AU Tiger]

Tempted to buy but for the price, I'd rather try the steam controller first.

I hate the shoulder buttons on the standard xbone controller to begin with, the hit or miss PS4 game pad button mapping in games so I've just been using my trusty 360 pad.

I assume the elite controller has the same shoulder buttons as the standard xbone controller? I find them way harder to actually push than the 360's shoulder buttons.

So, how good are these Eneloops? I see people mentioning them all the time, but are they really that good? How long do they last?

Once you use them, you will accept nothing less.

I think that I've got around 2 or 3 dozen AA eneloops in my house as I use them in all the various toys for the kid, my guitar's wireless unit, my camera's Speedlite, a couple of flashlights and my 360 game pad.

Then I got another dozen AAA's floating around in my various TV/DVR remote controls

They're not cheap but assuming you don't need a billion of them, it's not an unreasonable price.

I started with the super power pack

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JHKSLSW/?tag=neogaf0e-20

And then ended up buying a pack of the pro versions to see how they compared

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JHKSL0A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

And while they do last a bit longer, the application they're used in will ultimately determine whether or not the pro's are worth the higher price. I use the pro's in my guitar wireless pack as they keep it powered for two 3 and a half hour shows and I keep the other pair of pros in my guitar case in case our bass player's no name costco AA's die.

 

[internetwolf]

Yes, it's compatible with the existing kit.

perfect thanks!

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

The Elite controller has the updated bumpers. The original bumpers aren't being made anymore apparently.

 

[Karamsoul]

Can anyone who owns the controller please let us know if MS stiffened the sticks rigidity or gave options for us to physically modify the rigidity (instead of adjusting sensitivity via the app)? Dying to know.

 

[nib95]

And those people get the choice of putting one in. The real question is why other companies don't give us the choice and why are we stuck with a moronically awful battery. Choice wins.

Choice that ends up costing you additional money, and therein lies the problem. Microsoft ought to include a rechargeable option with the controller and then give you the choice to pick another of your own accord and of your own expense. But instead if you want something rechargeable, you either have to buy a pack of Eneloops and a wall charger (roughly $20), or a Play and Charge kit (roughly $25), and that's the shitty bit. The fact that Microsoft is too cheap to throw in a Play and Charge kit even with their $150 controller says a lot.

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

Choice that ends up costing you additional money, and therein lies the problem. Microsoft ought to include a rechargeable option with the controller and then give you the choice to pick another of your own accord and of your own expense. But instead if you want something rechargeable, you either have to buy a pack of Eneloops and a wall charger (roughly $20), or a Play and Charge kit (roughly $25), and that's the shitty bit.

It comes down to getting what you pay for.

It does cost more up front, and that may be a deal-breaker for some, but it's far more effective and efficient in the end.

 

[Steve McQueen]

Not trying to be rude, I read a lot of comments regarding the batteries.

Are batteries so expensive in the US / UK? There quite cheap here in Europa...as a matter of fact you can buy excellent batteries at,Lidl for exemple. They are very cheap and last for hours. They were tested better than even Duracell which is a well known brand over here...

 

[killroy87]

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JHKSLSW/?tag=neogaf0e-20

This is a dumb question, but does this power pack actually come with batteries? Or is it just a casing and charger?

Not trying to be rude, I read a lot of comments regarding the batteries.

Are batteries so expensive in the US / UK? There quite cheap here in Europa...as a matter of fact you can buy excellent batteries at,Lidl for exemple. They are very cheap and last for hours. They were tested better than even Duracell which is a well known brand over here...

They can become an annoying expense depending on how many devices you have. Plus they are terrrrrrible for the environment, rechargable are just better.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Use the included USB cable. Not many sit that far away from their PCs.

If I'm at my pc I just use kbm 95% of the time, this would've been for my TV rig

 

[nubbe]

use a USB cable and no batteries are needed
That's how I use my Xbone noob controller
and I'll use USB with the elite

The only controller I want to use wireless is the Wiimote... since you wave that thing around and throw it at the TV

 

[PanicFreak]

So going by IGN's pros and cons, this controller has no cons?

Rechargeable AA batteries > Internal rechargeable

Price? It's the cheapest "Pro" controller going around despite being the only first party one. That's a pro.

It's basically, "If you can afford the controller and are willing to use rechargeable batteries, it's the best controller ever!"

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

Not trying to be rude, I read a lot of comments regarding the batteries.

Are batteries so expensive in the US / UK? There quite cheap here in Europa...as a matter of fact you can buy excellent batteries at,Lidl for exemple. They are very cheap and last for hours. They were tested better than even Duracell which is a well known brand over here...

I don't know how expensive standard batteries are in Europe (I can't imagine the difference +tax is much different), but discardables are expensive enough in the U.S. that I wouldn't want to pay for them as a heavy gamer.

 

[nubbe]

a pack of 40 batteries are like €12~
and rechargeable with a charger cost about €40, depending on quality and brand

but most people should have rechargeables since the 360 & Wii days, I mean srsly

 

[Soodanim]

So I'm getting one but can someone explain what the paddles are used for generally?

I still want one of these controllers just to have a Dark Souls run paddle. I think it would improve the experience tenfold.

I don't know how expensive standard batteries are in Europe (I can't imagine the difference +tax is much different), but discardables are expensive enough in the U.S. that I wouldn't want to pay for them as a heavy gamer.

They're expensive enough that I bought rechargables when I started playing Wii games. Went through loads far too quickly on Skyward Sword and had to invest. Kind of wish I got these Eneloops that everyone gets a boner over instead of the Panasonic ones I picked up in Tesco, though.

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

I have no problem with AA batteries, I like not having to charge shit constantly. A 20 pack costs maybe 8 bucks in the U.S. and that will easily last 6 months for me, probably longer.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

It's basically, "If you can afford the controller and are willing to use rechargeable batteries, it's the best controller ever!"

Yep. When did gamers become so focused on the dollar amount vs what it is you're actually paying for?

Scuf controllers are in the $200US plus range aren't they? So I'd hardly call $150 for a first party equivalent expensive.

 

[Leyasu]

Can you charge Eneloops through the Play and Charge kit?

Could someone answer this please?

 

[killroy87]

It's a premium product. iPad Pro is expensive as hell too, but that's because the market that they're targeting has the money to pay.

 

[LOLCats]

nevermind

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Choice that ends up costing you additional money, and therein lies the problem. Microsoft ought to include a rechargeable option with the controller and then give you the choice to pick another of your own accord and of your own expense. But instead if you want something rechargeable, you either have to buy a pack of Eneloops and a wall charger (roughly $20), or a Play and Charge kit (roughly $25), and that's the shitty bit. The fact that Microsoft is too cheap to throw in a Play and Charge kit even with their $150 controller says a lot.

I have eneloops already, so it's not an expense to me. I imagine they would charge more to include that in the package so I'm glad they didn't.

 

[Steve McQueen]

They can become an annoying expense depending on how many devices you have. Plus they are terrrrrrible for the environment, rechargable are just better.

You're right that rechargable batteries are better for the environment.

I don't know how expensive standard batteries are in Europe (I can't imagine the difference +tax is much different), but discardables are expensive enough in the U.S. that I wouldn't want to pay for them as a heavy gamer.

I guess I use about 10-12 pair a year, that's about 10 euro's over here, so it's a cheap alternative.

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

Can you charge Eneloops through the Play and Charge kit?

Could someone answer this please?

You cannot.

 

[barneystuta83]

Here is a decent actual hands on of the controller.

Goes through the set up and has a brief play of Halo 5 (mission 2, no major spoilers, just takes on a wave of grunts)

https://youtu.be/Cvng22KBOl4

The dude freely admits he isn't a pro player, but loves the build quality. And while it clearly will take a little getting used to he was impressed with the padels responsiveness and the hard lock triggers were fast.

Now all I need to see is a review from someone who uses a Scuff controller currently so the comparison can be made.

 

[DesuNe]

This is beautiful. Your move Sony, the build quality of their normal DS4s is so bad, it's not going to be hard to churn out a better version.

 

[SkinnerSw33t]

I guess I use about 10-12 pair a year, that's about 10 euro's over here, so it's a cheap alternative.

This is probably a difference in how much you use your controller.

I can get a 48-pack from Amazon for about $12 (~€11), which will last me a month and half at best, but a four-pack of Eneloops, which costs abut $13, will last 2+ years.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

hoping this get included in some amazon black friday deal. $79 would be a steal

 

[barneystuta83]

Here is another really positive review.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/10/22/xbox-one-elite-review/

The only real negative that I haven't seen anywhere is this:

IR sensor is gone

This is a bit of a bummer for me. I like to use my Xbox One controller on both my PC and my Xbox One. But going from one to the other is a little bit more difficult than it is with a standard controller. That’s because the Elite does not have the IR sensor. The regular gamepad has a built-in IR blaster that goes off when you are trying to sync it from the couch. The Xbox One’s Kinect sensor can monitor that and pair it to the system. That’s no longer an option, which means I have to remember to hit the weird sync button on the side of my Xbox One every time I get done playing PC games.

I get it. The Kinect isn’t really that hot anymore, and I bet most Xbox One owners don’t have one. And since this is supposed to be a pro controller, why include extra junk that only works with the Kinect? But still, it’s something I would’ve appreciated.

Not a huge negative for most people, fair play for him pointing it out though.

 

[Steve McQueen]

This is probably a difference in how much you use your controller.

I can get a 48-pack from Amazon for about $12 (~€11), which will last me a month and half at best, but a four-pack of Eneloops, which costs abut $13, will last 2+ years.

Wow.. It's true that I might not be the heaviest user. Playing on WiiU, PS4 and PC too, so Xbox One is just a part of it.

 

[kingwingin]

Here is another really positive review.

http://venturebeat.com/2015/10/22/xbox-one-elite-review/

The only real negative that I haven't seen anywhere is this:



Not a huge negative for most people, fair play for him pointing it out though.

I think the ir sensor was removed from regular controllers aswell.

 

[Big-ass Ramp]

I think the ir sensor was removed from regular controllers aswell.

Microsoft seriously has just dumped the kinect, haven't they?

 

[Booker.DeWitt]

I also prefer eneloops

 

[KaoticBlaze]

Here is a decent actual hands on of the controller.

Goes through the set up and has a brief play of Halo 5 (mission 2, no major spoilers, just takes on a wave of grunts)

https://youtu.be/Cvng22KBOl4

The dude freely admits he isn't a pro player, but loves the build quality. And while it clearly will take a little getting used to he was impressed with the padels responsiveness and the hard lock triggers were fast.

Now all I need to see is a review from someone who uses a Scuff controller currently so the comparison can be made.

I really love how hyped and excited this guy is in his review, especially when he starts using the paddles lol.