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Pokémon Picross |OT| It's been 16 years

scamander

Banned
They've managed to take two things I love... Pokemon and Picross... and release something utterly distasteful that I want nothing to do with.

Mission accomplished, Nintendo. All hail the mobile future.

Pretty sure that's The Pokémon Company's doing.
 

Fewr

Member
Stuck at the office, Uber is charging 3.0 because of the traffic outside.
Wondering if I should instead spend money on some Pictrites to play whilst I wait for Uber's rate to come down.... ugh...
 
How does blue force work exactly?

It will highlight any row or column in which there's a move you can make. It comes straight out of the Picross E games (only it's called Hint Navigation there). Basically, if you get stuck, it'll show you anything you might have missed.

Those Password codes on the last page got me over the threshold to unlock the next area, but now I'm stuck again. Buying the discounted 200 and 800 Picrite packs got me up to Area 10, and now I'm 100 short of unlocking Area 11 so that's pretty much it. It'll be two weeks of playing the daily challenge before I can earn enough without paying, so I think I'm out until I hear about another special offer or something. I do like the extra challenge that the Missions bring, but this just isn't worth six times the price of a normal Picross E game. Jupiter/Nintendo/TPC or whoever it is just got much too greedy with the pricing structure.
 

Cindro

Member
Are there any Pokemon you can eventually get whose abilities work on the puzzles that are larger than 10x10? This is my first ever Picross game, love it so far (though I'm sure I'll hate it soon enough when the money wall goes up), but seeing those 15x20 grids knowing I'll have zero help is so overwhelmingly daunting that I don't even want to attempt it. Seriously, how do you even go about solving those? Seems like it would take hours.

Anyway, after I start hating this title, it seems like Picross E 6 is the one I should buy? It's a shame because I really love Pokemon, and putting together a pixelated image of those characters is far more interesting to me than assembling random items, but I don't want to deal with this design-hampering monetization. But whatever! Does Mario Picross on the GB have Nintendo images?
 

Elija2

Member
Are there any Pokemon you can eventually get whose abilities work on the puzzles that are larger than 10x10? This is my first ever Picross game, love it so far (though I'm sure I'll hate it soon enough when the money wall goes up), but seeing those 15x20 grids knowing I'll have zero help is so overwhelmingly daunting that I don't even want to attempt it. Seriously, how do you even go about solving those? Seems like it would take hours.

Yeah, the Pokemon you get for beating the larger puzzles can be used on them.
 

jnWake

Member
I just downloaded this. Had never played Picross before and I'm really enjoying it.

However, it seems the price structure is a bit bad? I guess I'll try the eShop ones after I run out of free stuff haha. Shapes in those games are just random stuff?
 
It's a real good thing I have Picross DS to go to because playing this for free means I do like 3 puzzles followed by hours of waiting. :/

I kinda wish they just released it as a full game, but I guess free-to-start is the hip thing for TPC.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Guys, if this is your first time playing Picross, please please make yourselves a favor and check out the Picross e-series. $7 per game IIRC and they're full of content.

Also, hunt down a copy of 3D Picross for DS. It's brilliant.
 

XaosWolf

Member
Guys, if this is your first time playing Picross, please please make yourselves a favor and check out the Picross e-series. $7 per game IIRC and they're full of content.

Also, hunt down a copy of 3D Picross for DS. It's brilliant.

Definitely hunt down Picross 3D. It is a joy to play.
Sucky that the sequel doesn't have any animations, but the new models are pretty awesome regardless.
 

JoeM86

Member
Guys, I hate F2S as much as you guys do, but come on. They're not going to let the game be easily completable without paying. I agree they should have released it as a $10 standard download title, but that's not the age we live in. They do need to pay the bills and having a game easily completable without spending a penny is not good business.

Please don't do this to Pokémon Go, please don't do this to Pokémon Go, please...

Pokémon Go will have microtransactions

Pretty sure that's The Pokémon Company's doing.

It's both
 

Pokemaniac

Member
I just want to know if the game gets as broken when you buy the max amount of picrites as I thought Rumble World would become if I bought the max amount of poke diamonds. That was why I didn't buy any in the end. It was kinda fun to grind for those diamonds at first, doing the challenges, starting the game everyday to get them from my friends via spotpass and from strangers, getting some when you've met people on streetpass etc. Then I hit the paywall, now I need to grind a LOT just to get another baloon, or I can pay and then I probably won't have to grind EVER AGAIN. Which is the opposite extreme, game would become too easy at that point.

Similarly in Pokemon Picross, I like that there's the unlocking and other things, but I feel like it might become too easy to bypass that mechanic, essentially revealing its nature as a means to make you pay and nothing more.
I also don't like that I'm almost never rewarded for not using pokemon abilities. When the challenges require me to use them I just repeat the stage after finishing it on my own at first. But that's another story.

Maxing out the paid currencies doesn't make these games broken, it makes them actually enjoyable. Attempting to play the games without max currency is just an exercise in extreme patience.
 
I just encountered one of those rare 1-hour only 20x20 puzzles and now I realize how much I suck at Picross. Gave up 40 minutes in.

Any good resources at learning how to beat large puzzles like that?
 
I just encountered one of those rare 1-hour only 20x20 puzzles and now I realize how much I suck at Picross. Gave up 40 minutes in.

Any good resources at learning how to beat large puzzles like that?

Just practice. The mechanics are exactly the same as the small puzzles. There are large untimed ones too, so you can get a handle on them.
 
Just practice. The mechanics are exactly the same as the small puzzles. There are large untimed ones too, so you can get a handle on them.

Yeah, but then like 20 minutes into the puzzle you got huge 15x15 gaps on nearly every row and column and you're expected to fill them out with a bunch of 1s, 2s, and 3s. It was literally guesswork at that point.
 
Guys, I hate F2S as much as you guys do, but come on. They're not going to let the game be easily completable without paying. I agree they should have released it as a $10 standard download title, but that's not the age we live in. They do need to pay the bills and having a game easily completable without spending a penny is not good business.


Obviously. But I bought all 6 picross e games for less than they effectively want me to spend on this. To be blunt, they can fuck off with that.

Such ridiculous pricing just ensures i never give them a penny for the game.
 
Yeah, but then like 20 minutes into the puzzle you got huge 15x15 gaps on nearly every row and column and you're expected to fill them out with a bunch of 1s, 2s, and 3s. It was literally guesswork at that point.

Usually in situations like that there's a row where all the small boxes and x's will actually fill the row, or if you count from both sides there'll be like a 3 that overlaps in one place or something. Bring Blue Force into the big puzzles and activate it when you think you're stuck. It'll tell you where to look and you can figure out what rule you're missing.
 

JoeM86

Member
Obviously. But I bought all 6 picross e games for less than they effectively want me to spend on this. To be blunt, they can fuck off with that.

Such ridiculous pricing just ensures i never give them a penny for the game.

That's the free to play structure right there. That's how the model is and it's horrible, but thankfully there's an upper limit here so it's not as bad as the majority of F2P titles in the industry
 
Yeah, but then like 20 minutes into the puzzle you got huge 15x15 gaps on nearly every row and column and you're expected to fill them out with a bunch of 1s, 2s, and 3s. It was literally guesswork at that point.

The thing about Picross is that it's never guesswork. There's always a concrete way forward, you just have to be able to see it. This is what the Blue Force powerup is useful for; it'll highlight any row or column where there's a move available for you to make, without necessarily telling you what it is, so it's good for when you just need a hint.

Otherwise, I suppose it just takes experience. You develop an eye for it over time, same as Sudoku or any of these kinds of puzzles. I think I got through that 20x15 Mythical Pokemon puzzle in about eight minutes, but I've spent hundreds of hours playing Picross over the years. Give me a game of nothing but 30x30s and I'd eat it up :p
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Also I hate it that the game doesn't even train you for those 15x or 20x puzzles, and they don't even have hints unless you use powers :(
 

Zonic

Gives all the fucks
Was able to earn enough to earn a 3rd slot so I can do a few more missions involving having 3 Pokemon. But I'm pretty much at the point I need to spend money to unlock more areas.

I earned exactly enough since I noticed there was a "mission" for taking a screencap when the puzzle is finished, earning 3 picrites.
 
Bah, I spent most of my free picrites on energy bar upgrades and found out that was a bad idea. I might never unlock a new area in a while. I might just put money into this one day.
 

Hegarol

Member
Bah, I spent most of my free picrites on energy bar upgrades and found out that was a bad idea. I might never unlock a new area in a while. I might just put money into this one day.
Just delete eveything and download again. You can start fresh that way.
 

n64coder

Member
I'm enjoying the game. It's different from the E series which is why I like it. I'm a picross veteran but even I can only do a few at a time before I get bored. I will treat this like 3DS street passing or Nintendo badge arcade where you just play a few boards each day. Doesn't bother me.

I think I'm on area 4. It cracks me up that many people here are eager to finish it all in a few days.
 

scamander

Banned
It's both

But why is it then, that Nintendo's own F2S games are so much more tasteful? Not only that, but they are also not using their beloved and well-established IPs, while we already have three Pokémon F2S games on 3DS alone (I have no idea how many are on mobile). Of course Nintendo is still a part of the Pokémon company and has also a say in its matters. And I'm not saying they are actively fighting it, but I doubt it would have come to this, if Nintendo was the alone IP holder.
 

Brakke

Banned
I played this right up until I ran out of Pic-bux (which didn't take long). WTF I thought the energy system would be the bottleneck but it's literally impossible (??) to progress without Pic-bux? And they're metered out so slowly! What good is beating all the missions on a puzzle for 6 Pic-bux if the transition to the next level is going to cost 80+?

Really disappointing. But whatever, it got me to fire up my 3DS after a long while and discover there have been 2 PicrossE games since last I checked. Downloaded the first one I missed, I'm sticking with that good shit. This game is an embarrassment compared to any one of those.
 

dity

Member
Like, I get that TPC's free to start model isn't the best but Joe is right - they're not going to make it easy to beat. They want you to put money into it - it's not "free to play", it's "free to start". You're going to hit a wall.

Besides, I watched my partner play this game for about six hours straight today and she never puts money into F2P games. It can't be all that bad.

Also, I think complaining about this and then going to put money into a bunch of games that probably are equal to or almost equal to 5000 picrites in cost is kind of silly.
 

Brakke

Banned
The problem isn't that they want money it's that the price is ridiculously high compared to the Picross E games which are basically superior in every way except that they aren't Pokemon skinned (which cuts both ways). The only thing this has that E doesn't is the powers (?). If you're good at Picross, none of the powers are interesting because solving a puzzle is straight forward and mechanical. Does this game even have Mega Picross?

I just don't get what they think the value prop is here except Pokemon.
 

n64coder

Member
Some datamined codes. Have fun.

Edit: I input the first four Euro codes, and now the Password option has vanished. Probably a daily limit then.

Thanks for sharing them. For the Americas, the codes are in the same order as the spoilered ones that you listed.

Maybe these can be added to the OP?

As always our member JoeM86 will cover this game in all details as soon as its out. If you want to know all the available Pokémon, level details and many other information check out his website.

Wow, I'm amazed. How did this guy get so much information on the game when it has been released a few days ago? Impressive.
 

scamander

Banned
Like, I get that TPC's free to start model isn't the best but Joe is right - they're not going to make it easy to beat. They want you to put money into it - it's not "free to play", it's "free to start". You're going to hit a wall.

And that's understandable. I also get that Pokémon Shuffle probably didn't work out as intended, because there is no need to actually use money to play. What I don't understand, though, is why everything has to be full of microtransactions. They could (and should) have done it the Fullblox/ Stretchmo kinda way. No bullshit stamina bar, no in-game currency, just different level packs offered for a fair price.

Also, I think complaining about this and then going to put money into a bunch of games that probably are equal to or almost equal to 5000 picrites in cost is kind of silly.

Not if the games are worth it?! That's the whole problem about Pokémon Picross. It's just not worth its price.
 
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