Obliterator
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You are a smart dude.
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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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You are a smart dude.
Just out of curiosity, what's the nature of your link to MS? Retail sales, know someone in corporate MS, yourself being an employee, other...?
CosmicQueso
Member
Why don't you just ask for his employee ID number while you're at it?
Primethius
Banned
Bigger Black Friday of PlayStation isn't that much as can seem.
All we know is that PS4 sold > 525,000 during BF week, which is the bigger Black Friday of PS3.
At the PS2 era, November and Black Friday weren't that huge. Indeed, 360 best November is way bigger than PS2 best November which is 1,318,000.
Imo, bigger BF of PlayStation history was super expected.
That said... of course still a good result.
Anyway, like i said, PS2 best November is 1.32 million. We can expect PS4 to sell similar to this.
All we know is that PS4 sold > 525,000 during BF week, which is the bigger Black Friday of PS3.
At the PS2 era, November and Black Friday weren't that huge. Indeed, 360 best November is way bigger than PS2 best November which is 1,318,000.
Imo, bigger BF of PlayStation history was super expected.
That said... of course still a good result.
Anyway, like i said, PS2 best November is 1.32 million. We can expect PS4 to sell similar to this.
Several days? Are they waiting for everyone to be done with xmas gifts?
Obliterator
Member
The 2 biggest days of shopping for December are the 19th and the 26th.
But yeah, I mean I'm not saying MS moves are going to outsell Sony or anything, just that again they aren't doing nothing.
That is solid info
slavesnyder
Member
You must be referring to post-season MAU. Pre-season MAU was quite the wrathful fellow.
I don't know if this was posted here, but PS4 has jumped on the yearly Amazon chart. Uncharted Collection bundle has now sold more than retail copy of Halo 5.We of course don't know the digital sales of UC bundle
That's something.
serversurfer
Member
Sorry. It's just frustrating when you take the time to try to help someone, and all you get back is, "Agree to disagree; two times two is clearly twelve." >< I'll drop it.
*checks thread title* US only, yes? Am I correct in assuming digital share tends to skew higher in the US than it does worldwide? Was the digital share in the US for games like H5 and TKK much higher than we typically see in the US?
House was talking about their worldwide revenues, not their US hardware sales.
CorporateClown
Member
Alright, let's go!
[3DS]350K
[PS4]1210k
[WIU]290k
[XB1]1110K
[3DS]350K
[PS4]1210k
[WIU]290k
[XB1]1110K
CosmicQueso
Member
Yes.
I don't know. Only people that do right now are the first parties.
"Much" is an unspecific term, so I don't know how you define that word. These two titles have the highest month 1 digital share in the US yet seen.
I'm not sure how impressed I can even be by whatever MS decides to do as a "counter" since the only way to make it impressive as opposed to just bringing it to par with the PS4 deals would basically mean they're doing nothing but selling at or below cost and giving up all margin just to save face in the userbase game - something that is already irrevocably lost on a worldwide scale anyway, but I guess saving face in the US market is the last thing they can hope for.
Obliterator
Member
I don't know if this was posted here, but PS4 has jumped on the yearly Amazon chart. Uncharted Collection bundle has now sold more than retail copy of Halo 5.We of course don't know the digital sales of UC bundle
In retrospect bundling Uncharted Collection was brilliant. Its free for them because its 1st party and its building a giant chunk of potential new fans for the franchise for Uncharted 4.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I'm pretty sure the writer is wrong here. Don't take anything in that article too seriously unless it's a direct quote from Andrew House.
slavesnyder
Member
Now, imagine if Uncharted Nathan Drake collection will outsell Halo 5 lifetime in the US... I mean, lol.
And i remember when some peoplesaid Halo 5 would outsell Uncharted 4 by 2:1 LT in the US, hahahahaha.including me
Uncharted Collection might work better than Master Chief Collection to excite people for the new episode.
serversurfer
Member
<3
So only the first parties know the digital shares yet this is the highest digital share we've seen? =/
Sorry, not to be difficult, but if you don't know whether the US digital share tends to be higher than the 20% WW average, what are you comparing the H5 and TKK results to?
They'll do a free game and gift cards.
Their strategy this year is to focus on profits for the first time since the launch of the XB1 while still trying to be competitive enough so that they won't be left behind by huge a margin (at least in the US). They have clearly factored in that they won't be number one in the US this holiday season.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Yeah, I didn't see that coming.
harrisk954
Member
Did he change his name to Mulcaim?
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
And there it is. Arrogant Sony is back.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Unlike Halo everybody and your uncle hasn't played Uncharted or may even be aware of it. With all the new owners of PS4 this holiday season it is going to generate a ton of interest in Uncharted 4. Sony was smart to get Bluepoint on the job as well. Few of the people I know that never played them were instant converts for sure.
CosmicQueso
Member
The US market. In the US. For titles in the US. US.
ethomaz
Banned
Sad it is against Halo 5 that sold terrible for the franchise... needs more evidences UC bundle is doing great.I don't know if this was posted here, but PS4 has jumped on the yearly Amazon chart. Uncharted Collection bundle has now sold more than retail copy of Halo 5.We of course don't know the digital sales of UC bundle
Primethius
Banned
You screwed up UK four times? MAU will not be pleased.
You know Cosmic, we really are the Last of US.
serversurfer
Member
Sorry, I guess I wasn't being clear. I was referring to the US market.
- We know the worldwide average is 20% digital.
- Do the numbers we see for the US tend to be higher than that?
- If you can't be specific about the digital share typically seen in the US, can you give us any hints as to whether the ~27%-30% seen by H5 and TKK last month in the US was "much higher" than typically seen in the US? "A tiny bit higher"? Yes, I realize those are vague and relative terms, but I was trying not to get you in to too much trouble. <3 Obviously, specifics are preferred if available. lol
Or maybe you realize that your arguments about Microsoft's PR are opinions and not the universal truth.
Anyway, no point in continue this, you have your interpretation, some people agree with you and some others don't. Deal with it.
CosmicQueso
Member
For month 1? We do? No, we don't know that. Where would we know that from?
The average month 1 digital share in the US is slightly less than 20%.
And i remember when some peoplesaid Halo 5 would outsell Uncharted 4 by 2:1 LT in the US, hahahahaha.including me
The old Halo would do it, maybe even more than 2:1.
Halo 5 launch sales was absolutely unexpected, the drop is too big.
Mass Effect
Member
[PS4] 1300K
[XB1] 1250K
[WIU] 300K
[3DS] 400K
[XB1] 1250K
[WIU] 300K
[3DS] 400K
serversurfer
Member
Well, EA said 20%, but they didn't give a time period, I suppose. Can you say what time period that would cover, if we're fairly sure Month 1 wouldn't look like that?
That's surprising. Does it tend to increase over time? Seems odd that digital sales would be huge on Day 1, then drop as the week progresses, and continue dropping down to an average below 20% for the first month, if the averages then increase to 20% over the lifetime(?) of the title worldwide. Or am I just wrong about digital share higher being higher in the US? If US averages below 20% in the first month, then I don't see how EA are getting back to 20% worldwide by the time they publish their quarterlies. =/
Dash_Riprock
Member
Is there a possibility that it won't even be in the top 10 for this month (not including bundles of course)?
Last year the cut was ~660k, so it has, but if I had to guess I would say that Halo 5 will be in top 10 because october sales was just 5 days.
Bolivar687
Banned
It's still tracking well. Only way I could see that if it's one of those situations when an exclusive is in the top 10 SKUs but gets beat out overall by third party games adding up all platform totals. I'm not sure if there's enough of those games in November to keep it out of the top 10.
Yeah. I could understand if it had come out the first week of October it not charting in November. But it didn't and it only had 1 week of tracking. It would've had to completely crater its second week and move no more copies the rest of November and Black Friday for it not to chart
I dunno i view halo as one of those water cooler games that people want to play right away at launch. I think the bulk of the sales happened in the first 5 days.
CosmicQueso
Member
He said 20% on PS4/Xone over the last quarter. So not an apples:apples comparison. Different platforms, different time periods. Different geographies. Also EA versus total market. So not at all comparable. Square pegs, round holes.
Welfare
Member
Looking to little US, If I got my numbers right, Halo 5 in the UK sold 150k in the launch week, and in the next 4 weeks sold ~102k, so around a 32% drop MOM. If the US were to see a similar drop, Halo 5 would sell ~636k. It could make it in the top 10, but could also just miss it.
I also think that the 600k mark would probably be lower this year. Last year you had smash Pokemon, farcy halo dragon age GTA all releasing among the other usual suspects. Like what other game this year is gonna break 600k? Need for speed, minecraft, Disney infinity?
CosmicQueso
Member
In 2012, 7 titles broke 600k; 8 in 2013, 11 in 2014.