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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users

jjonez18

Member
3:1 by the end next year?

Wouldn't we be talking something like PS4 60m (25m in 2016) and XB1 20m (What 3m in 2016)? How is this possible? Will we even see 3:1 at all?
 

Kagoshima_Luke

Gold Member
Who cares if you personally felt they were arrogant? The PS2 library was amazing.

Who cares if *subjective opinion*. The PS2 library was *subjective opinion*.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Er, i don't even know how one could have hated the PS1 and PS2 gens. Unless one didn't own one of them of course

I didn't hate either of those gens. I hated Sony during the PS2's hey day. So many broken promises and bullshit E3 presentations. They used to always bring out the charts and spreadsheets to show everyone how far ahead they were. They have a much more consumer focused, humble attitude today.
 

orochi91

Member
3:1 by the end next year?

Wouldn't we be talking something like PS4 60m (25m in 2016) and XB1 20m (What 3m in 2016)? How is this possible? Will we even see 3:1 at all?

It won't be 3:1 by the end of 2016. That would mean XB1 stops selling almost entirely.

3:1 should be happen sometime in 2018.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
What do you mean? Sure Sony is like 20m ahead of Xbox but Nintendo announced 10m back in July and are likely only 3-5m behind Xbox.

Xbox and Nintendo are doing fine it is just Sony going to infinity and beyond.

Wii U has been out a year longer. It's not doing fine. Nintendo must agree with me because they're fast-tracking its replacement.
 

noobie

Banned
Only if Sony have
been less complacent and
provided amazon and other retailers with more stock
and kept star wars bundle at $299 for 1 more week
, they would
not have faced the embarrassment of announcing only 35.9 million and would
have announced more then 36 million sold to customers.
 
I don't think we ever going to get 3 to 1 unless MS cut the gen short .
X1 will sell at least 40 to 45 million and i don't see PS4 selling 3 times that .
 
Who cares if *subjective opinion*. The PS2 library was *subjective opinion*.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

One opinion is purely subjective while the other can be backed up with evidence (e.g. Metacritic scores, lineup diversity, sales of exclusives, etc.). Just because both opinions are subjective, doesn't mean they are the same.
 
I wonder just how low the price of the PS4 will actually be able to get at the end of life with a mandatory hard drive. That seemed to be the key for the PS2's ridiculously long tail. I'm not the most up to date on rock bottom pricing, but don't hard drives stay relatively costly?

They could go with decent sized Flash memory model later this gen for cheaper price. Of course while retaining traditional HDD sku with higher price too for those that need a lot of space.
 
Only if Sony have
been less complacent and
provided amazon and other retailers with more stock
and kept star wars bundle at $299 for 1 more week
, they would
not have faced the embarrassment of announcing only 35.9 million and would
have announced more then 36 million sold to customers.

It's always sad to see you this serious.

Cheer up a bit Noobie.
 

Azelover

Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Maybe someone has pointed this out, but I'm pretty sure the Wii did better up to this point.

Still, congratulations Sony. It only goes to show you can bounce back by being nothing more than yourself. And doing it very well.

Cheers.
 

orochi91

Member
Maybe someone has pointed this out, but I'm pretty sure the Wii did better up to this point.

Still, congratulations Sony. It only goes to show you can bounce back by being nothing more than yourself. And doing it very well.

Cheers.

Yea, the Wii was ~$100 cheaper than the PS4 and also had the Motion Controls novelty hype.

That thing could have challenged the PS2 for top console status if Nintendo kept it alive for several more years and supported it more.

Really wouldn't mind an Ultra Blu Ray PS4 Slim packed in with Star Wars Episode VII.

PS4 getting 4K playback patched in for Blu Rays would be more than welcome :3
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Very little chance of 3:1. It would take a massive chain reaction of de facto exclusives or an early exit for that to happen.
 

Elandyll

Banned
How was he not the salty one? One man speculating like the rest if the world vs a man who got offended by it? Come on, dude.
You got the exchange wrong. Shu misunderstood Ryan's orig tweet (he thought Ryan was saying that MS should have gotten the deal, when he was just wondering if MS even tried to talk to Kojima), and when it was clarified he thanked and apologized just under the same exchange.

Arrogant indeed. /rollseyes
 

NolbertoS

Member
Congrats to Sony hitting that milestone. I contributed to that sudden spike with 1 additional unit as many others did :p. What are MS's sold through compared to Sony?? My guesses?? I don't know if being distant 2nd will make MS not start the next gen wars sooner. It would've been if 2nd place were as wide to Sony. Feels like MS is in Wii U territory, even though it's not.
 

Windforce

Member
Yea, it's been a crazy gen so far, all things considered.

I don't think it's so crazy after the disastrous X1 reveal, and what Microsoft attempted to pull on us, they deserved even worse fate than what they are getting.

I think MS is actually doing way too well all things considered.
 
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I don't think it's so crazy after the disastrous X1 reveal, and what Microsoft attempted to pull on us, they deserved even worse fate than what they are getting.

I think MS is actually doing way too well all things considered.

That is some dedicated hate right there.
 

Aceofspades

Banned
Only if Sony have
been less complacent and
provided amazon and other retailers with more stock
and kept star wars bundle at $299 for 1 more week
, they would
not have faced the embarrassment of announcing only 35.9 million and would
have announced more then 36 million sold to customers.

Am I the only one tired of your act, now it seems like you are desperately fishing for a tag.

Its getting annoying really.
 
Prediction time for Sony first party software in 2015:

Uncharted 4: ~10 million

Gran Turismo Sports: ~7 million

The Last Guardian: 2 million+

Ratchet and Clank: 1 million+

Horizon Zero Dawn: ~7 million

Gravity Rush 2: ~1 million

Dreams: (wild card)

It should be a great year for Sony first party games sales.

I think you're lowballing Rachet and Clank, and if GT Sports gets the marketing it needs and is legit solid it'll easily do more than 7 million WW.

The other numbers look about right though; personally I'm hoping Dreams is at least up to LBP numbers, even though it's much more ambitious than those games ever were. I think the community creations are gonna be what drives that game's sales, and it'll be a slow burner as a result.

Only if Sony have
been less complacent and
provided amazon and other retailers with more stock
and kept star wars bundle at $299 for 1 more week
, they would
not have faced the embarrassment of announcing only 35.9 million and would
have announced more then 36 million sold to customers.
Since we're at it I can't wait to see you say this very same thing about XBO in two more years.

Congrats to Sony hitting that milestone. I contributed to that sudden spike with 1 additional unit as many others did :p. What are MS's sold through compared to Sony?? My guesses?? I don't know if being distant 2nd will make MS not start the next gen wars sooner. It would've been if 2nd place were as wide to Sony. Feels like MS is in Wii U territory, even though it's not.
They're def ahead of Wii U, but certainly not at 20 million. Sell-through for XBO is probably around 16-17 million at this point. 18 million if being very generous.
 

joecanada

Member
You kidding? Those were the dark arrogant Sony years. I hated them back then. It lead to a disastrous PS3 launch. Not saying they are back there, but Sony leading with limited competition worries me.

Here we go again, can we add some kind of "ps3 was a hate filled money burning machine and a total disaster aka the dark years " to the bingo card yet or what?
 

Raist

Banned
Only if Sony have
been less complacent and
provided amazon and other retailers with more stock
and kept star wars bundle at $299 for 1 more week
, they would
not have faced the embarrassment of announcing only 35.9 million and would
have announced more then 36 million sold to customers.

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Totally agree, that time was so much fun. The hype machine was at top speed and there was so much excitement for the new consoles. GAF was an animal house from Feb - Dec 2013. Lots of laughs, tears, and salt.

i'll certainly remember the salt from the gaming press over what transpired during that time

what with gies, kuchera and the rest of those corporate lackies trying to convince us Sony would also have anti consumer drm in the ps4 also.

lots of crow was surely eaten
 

NolbertoS

Member
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So I take it there won't be a price drop anytime soon? I want a PS4 for some its exclusives, but I still can't justify spending close to $500 for one.

Why didn't they wait for 40 million? Such an awkward number to release.

I saw that $500 dollars and was gonna ask, thats not what it sells in North American, but you're referring to $500 Australian dollars, yeah that is a bind. If I were a gamer in Australia, I'd be importing most of my games and systems.
 
Isnt sony being this much ahead of microsoft, and microsoft being this much ahead of nintendo essentially a bad thing for us gamers?

It looks good with all these indies and second party exclusives on the horizon, but arguably the only truly great ps4 exclusive is bloodborne and that game isnt even a first party.

And we are more than 2 years into this generation.

They didnt even fix their godawful ui yet.


what's up with the "us" & "we" going on in this thread?

you don't speak for ALL of gaf

I get it. MS dropped the ball and have already lost the race.

get over your inner rage and buy a ps4. it's a fantastic console will provide you with great content now and in the foreseeable future.

please
 
I saw that $500 dollars and was gonna ask, thats not what it sells in North American, but you're referring to $500 Australian dollars, yeah that is a bind. If I were a gamer in Australia, I'd be importing most of my games and systems.
Used to be the way to go, but now that you only get ~72c US per Aussie dollar these days it's generally not worth it.
 
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