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The water crisis in Flint, Michigan

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FStubbs

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I couldn't help but laugh at this. Totally inappropriate I know, but this a textbook example of why you shouldn't have people who handwave empirical evidence in charge of environmental matters. Electing Ted Cruz would put this on a nationwide scale.

Also, Simpsonsdidit.



Throwing a governor in jail for being criminally stupid is a precedent that no one in Washington wants though. Especially with some of the imminent environmental changes that we've been warned about.

You assume stupidity. I think it was malicious intent.
 
How hasn't the Flint Water Crisis been getting much attention? That place is becoming inhabitable.

I suspect Flint being 53% black has something to do with it. If this were a white majority city then it'd be in the news 24/7. Or maybe not, because it probably wouldn't have escalated to this point for a white community to begin with.
 

Loakum

Banned
Looks like a jug filled with piss. Ugh.

Piss is safer to drink than Flint's tap water! Obama's appointee from the EPA said the water was safe, but it wasn't. Funny how he still has his job. Governor Synder knew about this since 2013, only now he acknowledges it because it's harming him politically! Our elected officials has FAILED US! I can say this because I live in Michigan!
 
So.

The Michigan municipal govt FB page posted this today:

WtjuPJw.jpg
 

WedgeX

Banned
Snyder released emails to and from only himself today. Michigan Freedom of Information Act laws don't apply to him or his staff and he has declined to release his staff's.

Detroit Free Press said:
Gov. Rick Snyder's staffers worried in September that the issue of lead in Flint's drinking water was being politicized and that the state's role in the crisis was being exaggerated.

"I can't figure out why the state is responsible except that (then-treasurer Andy) Dillon did make the ultimate decision so we're not able to avoid the subject," Snyder's chief of staff Dennis Muchmore wrote to Snyder in a Sept. 25, 2015, email.

He followed it up the next morning writing: "The real responsibility rests with the county, city and KWA," referring to the Karegnondi Water Authority. "But since the issue here is the health of citizens and their children we're taking a proactive approach."

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In the emails, Muchmore wrote that U.S. Rep. Dan Kildee, D-Flint, was "engaged in his normal press hound routine" after the congressman issued a press release noting he'd asked the EPA to help the state deal with the crisis, adding that then-mayor Dayne Walling "went out on a CYA effort due to the election."

Completely neglecting that the person who made the decision was an Emergency Manager appointed by the governor. Also, way to throw the former-State Treasurer, a democrat appointed by Snyder, under the bus.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
So.

The Michigan municipal govt FB page posted this today:

Good luck getting kids to not drink water in swimming pools or baths, and of course, there's no need to worry about lead-contaminated vapors or droplets getting into your digestive system or respiratory tract!
 
Here's a better representation.
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My grandfather lives in Flint (not there presently) and I'm about 90% sure I've seen the guy in this picture.

He won't be going back to Flint until this situation is resolved.

Travesty what has gone on there and honestly? It's par for the course for this Governor. But the people elected him knowing he would hurt urban cities further and show the contempt and indifference towards them. The results here are as expected.
 

danm999

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This whole situation reads like a questline a good aligned character has to solve when they arrive in a new area in a post apocalyptic RPG, not a fucking real life event in a pre-apocalyptic first world nation. Awful.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Piss is safer to drink than Flint's tap water! Obama's appointee from the EPA said the water was safe, but it wasn't. Funny how he still has his job. Governor Synder knew about this since 2013, only now he acknowledges it because it's harming him politically! Our elected officials has FAILED US! I can say this because I live in Michigan!

As a Swede who takes clean tap water for granted, it's pretty horrible what's gone down over there, hope they get their shit together.
 

Vice

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Feel like I've been hearing about this for 2 weeks here in the UK. Why is this not sorted yet??
Even eliminating minor amounts of contamination takes a long time and lots of money to solve in the US. Since Michigan let this situation turn into a catstrophe it's a huge problem.
 
Seems like this is Michigan government's not-so-subtle way of telling people to leave Michigan. Not that most of the people who financially can probably haven't already. How long until this starts to look like a refugee crisis?
 
President of Kettering University sent out a memo today to alumni and parents of students. It's targeted specifically towards the goings on at the school, but there's also a bunch of sourced statements in case you wanted to learn more about what the current situation there is. Unless you choose to believe in lies by omission of course.
http://media.clickondetroit.com/doc...aterUpdateParentsandAlumni_1864731_ver1.0.pdf

Only issue I have with this is when they report the number of affected children and adults in a way that makes it seem small. They don't mention that part of the reason the number is small, might be due to people being aware they shouldn't drink the leadwater. Nobody asserts that pointing a loaded gun and shooting yourself in the head won't kill you because the number of people doing this is small. The number is small because people don't do it because they know it will kill them.
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
i watched the interview with Michael Moore on MSNBC the other day and he was saying that all of the kids are poisoned, there's only about as many kids as are poisoned there.

basically a whole generation of people from that city is going to have health issues for the rest of their life, and there's no way any of them can pay for any of the care
 

DedValve

Banned
So is this just to keep getting ignored?

How exactly do we even go about fixing such a shitshow of a problem that never should have happened anyways?

God this whole thing is disgusting.
 

Scottify

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Looks like Snyder will be asked to come testify before Congress

Detroit Free Press

WASHINGTON — A U.S. House committee is expected to hold a hearing Wednesday, Feb. 3, on the Flint water crisis and the government’s response to high lead levels in drinking water there, U.S. Rep. Brenda Lawrence’s office said Thursday.

And Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, who has apologized for the state’s handling of reports of high lead levels in Flint’s drinking water after it switched to the Flint River as its water source, is expected to be among those invited to testify before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee.
 

FStubbs

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i watched the interview with Michael Moore on MSNBC the other day and he was saying that all of the kids are poisoned, there's only about as many kids as are poisoned there.

basically a whole generation of people from that city is going to have health issues for the rest of their life, and there's no way any of them can pay for any of the care

Well fortunately Snyder wants to cut Obamacare and other health benefits.
 

ghost99

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I suspect Flint being 53% black has something to do with it. If this were a white majority city then it'd be in the news 24/7. Or maybe not, because it probably wouldn't have escalated to this point for a white community to begin with.

What do you base your "suspicions" on? Sounds an awful like race baiting to me.
 

wildfire

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I was seriously shocked to learn about this while browsing some old Daily Show clips. If I seriously was a resident of Flint I would be rioting or protesting nearly every day because they would be putting my life on the line and demand I pay for it. They deserve far more than scrutiny and lawsuits. Jail time is required.



So.

The Michigan municipal govt FB page posted this today:

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This is making me a bit teary. I can't believe the level of heartlessness in this picture after everything that has already happened.
 

ricelord

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It been this way for about around a year.shit at one point been brown and had to be drain from fire hydrants across town.
 
What do you base your "suspicions" on? Sounds an awful like race baiting to me.

I mean, the reason it's not being covered is because the city has a black majority and because it's one of the poorest cities in the country.

Poor + black majority + Michigan = most people don't care enough to make it a news story.

Welcome to america.
 
So.

The Michigan municipal govt FB page posted this today:

If I was living in Flint and saw this I would probably freak out and smash my computer. Can't believe they posted this. They must know that they are misinforming people right? Also I saw a story a couple days ago where some Michigan state official said he listened to a "conservative radio show" and decided the situation in Flint is a hoax. I couldn't believe it.

Don't know if it was posted on GAF. So here it is. Would this constitute its own thread that there are now Flint truthers who work in the government of Michigan?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/01/20/why-some-michigan-politicians-say-the-flint-water-crisis-is-a-hoax/
 
I haven't been following this stuff very closely...but damn, that picture. As someone that works in city government doing media, I would quit before I put something like that out.

Edit: and looking at a blown up copy of the image, the person that made that did a shitty job with the two bubbles in the middle.
 
How hasn't the Flint Water Crisis been getting much attention? That place is becoming inhabitable.

How do you define "much attention?" There are three stories on cnn.com's front page about it right now. There's at least three on msnbc.com (though only one on foxnews.com). I can't listen to NPR without hearing about it.
It just seems to be everywhere I look.
 

Quixzlizx

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They should just rename the entire state "Detroit" so it'll sink in for the rest of the country that the whole place is a disaster zone.

Switching to a poisoned water supply to cut costs seems like it's beyond the pale even for a cartoonishly evil state government.
 

ricelord

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How do you define "much attention?" There are three stories on cnn.com's front page about it right now. There's at least three on msnbc.com (though only one on foxnews.com). I can't listen to NPR without hearing about it.
It just seems to be everywhere I look.

well the water been like this for a year and it just now getting attention.
 
How do you define "much attention?" There are three stories on cnn.com's front page about it right now. There's at least three on msnbc.com (though only one on foxnews.com). I can't listen to NPR without hearing about it.
It just seems to be everywhere I look.

Yeah but it's taken a year and a half to get there. This has been going on for a year and a half.
 
Anyone who has ever given a kid a bath will testify that you can't guarantee they won't drink the wafer.

I don't think that the people putting that image out actually give one single shit about the welfare of the children, let alone the citizens. And the cynic in my says that there are some sick fucks that actually want the poor and underprivileged kept that way.
 
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