Noisepurge
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i just bought the PS4 camera today based solely on this rumor for 30$
Could see the value of those bounce back up to retail values...
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Reddit Rumor: PSVR price to be $428 (bundle) and $299 (standalone)
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i just bought the PS4 camera today based solely on this rumor for 30$
Could see the value of those bounce back up to retail values...The standard Rift controller (XBO pad) won't work in a game like Budget Cuts, unless you're suggesting they remove hand tracking altogether (obviously doubtful)
A DS4 has good 3D position and orientation tracking, but whenever you turn the DS4 in a way that hides the lightbar, you'd get an inferior experience. Or the camera would have to analyze the scene and track your body not unlike Kinect, but I don't know how feasible that would be.
valkillmore
Member
Yes not bad at all
I'm totally suggesting that. I see nothing particular in the game that couldn't be done with a controller. headlook + button to open drawers/pickup items. And the movement via teleportation lends itself well to a standing experience, which would translate fine to sitting with a controller IMO.
I'm not saying it would be as immersive as walking around with vive controllers, but I think it'd be absolutely playable.
So, about those Move controllers. What exactly do we need? One motion and one navigational controller?
Or two motion controllers?
This and the DS4 can act as a Nav Controller if needed for games with just one Move controller.
They really aren't. PSVR has a single screen, OR has 2 higher resolution screens. I say this as someone that's all in on PSVR, the OR is a higher end setup.
The PS4 Camera can track movements and depth but with less accuracy than something with a light bar/ball. Stick to the Move though.
Slightly off topic but the camera also goes head tracking in War Thunder right now.
I would say, just buy the camera. it's $60 but you can find them as low as $20.
I always get Budget Cuts confused with Job Simulator, which is nothing but hand-tracking. Budget Cuts has the knife-throwing and shooting mechanics though- both of which are funner and more immersive with motion controls, weigh the gameplay as the developers intended, and are more physically tolerable than aiming with your head.
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
Only $150 cheaper than the Rift?
Makes me glad I own a decently equipped PC. I think the Rift will provide a better VR experience.
Makes me glad I own a decently equipped PC. I think the Rift will provide a better VR experience.
RadicalVelocity
Member
Oculus was originally going to have a $400 headset, roughly, with a single panel design. By going with a more customized pair of panels, they changed the cost significantly. Costs are not linear! Lots of R&D, very low volume OLED panels that won't see use much outside of VR headsets (Oculus may not have even presold more than a quarter to half a million units yet).
That original headset is what you need to base comparisons on.
But then you need to recognize that: Sony produces OLED panels internally (so even with a more custom solution, they don't include usual margins, and they can reduce that cost by using those advances in their own cellphones and even selling to OTHER companies producing VR-ready cellphones), they have some of the best optics in the world, they have significantly more experience than Oculus/Facebook with hardware manufacturing, and though they need to add the breakout box's processor, a top of the line flagship phone quad or octa-core with advanced mobile GPU costs on the order of $35. They don't need something of that caliber, unless they were to do async/timewarp or camera processing on the box. And I haven't seen a setup where the camera is plugged into the box/the box into the auxiliary port, so that's not likely imo.
Wouldn't a game like rigs need a man controller?
i don't know if rigs even supports move
GuitarAtomik
Member
Ehh. I don't see that working for Budget Cuts. They've already expressed that they'd need to rework the game quite a bit to work with the Move controller due to the one camera setup. I kind of doubt they'd bother with another whole version of the game that worked with the DS4. A lot of that game involves two handed actions and precise flicking (with the knives).
Neuromancer
Member
The PS3 Move controllers work with the PS4, and with PSVR. There is no Move 2.0.
Noisepurge
Member
i don't think we know about Move 2.0 yet, but they have said that PS3 Move's do work. They will most likely release a new model though with Micro-usb ports atleast.
And "VR Game" can be just some short techdemos.
It's going to be interesting to see what devs do if PSVR is a success (also the standard OR). Why leave money on the table unless your game absolutely cannot be adapted to a different control scheme?
fastford58
Member
Called it if true.
I said 430-450 was probably the target in another thread. And really, if it includes the camera and move controller, it is not that bad.
I said 430-450 was probably the target in another thread. And really, if it includes the camera and move controller, it is not that bad.
metareferential
Member
Sounds good; what I really don't like is the use of move controllers.
You can say what you want, but it's outdated tech in the light of what Oculus and Vive are doing.
Still, it's a different market, I know.
You can say what you want, but it's outdated tech in the light of what Oculus and Vive are doing.
Still, it's a different market, I know.
I don't see why this wouldn't be true. It's cheaper to manufacture than OR, it's sony who has already said they care more about software and adoption than making money on the unit, and it's just the VR unit. OR being so expensive is because it's sold at cost and you NEED to buy the bundle. I saw this coming a mile away. Will eat tons of crow if it turns out false.
Rigs is a controller game.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Which is why I think they'll get it working for the Move controllers. Some experiences just aren't going to be doable with the DS4 though. Even some PSVR specific games coming I'm pretty sure will be Move only.
They "work with PSVR" but there's no way Sony's not going to release a new version that's PSVR-branded. At the very least they have to rename the Start/Select buttons. I wouldn't but it past them to include some other upgrades as well but I don't expect they'll just continue to sell Move controllers as-is. But you're right, they wouldn't call it "Move 2.0".
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Surely the time to buy move controllers would be now right? Especially if you already have a camera, the prices will shoot back up near launch.
GuitarAtomik
Member
They "work with PSVR" but there's no way Sony's not going to release a new version that's PSVR-branded. At the very least they have to rename the Start/Select buttons. I wouldn't but it past them to include some other upgrades as well but I don't expect they'll just continue to sell Move controllers as-is. But you're right, they wouldn't call it "Move 2.0".
Yeah, I think they'll just rebrand them. I don't know if they can risk putting out "Move 2.0" without falling in to a Wii remote/ Wii remote + situation since we know Move 1.0 is supposed to work with everything as well.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Pretty good price, but it'll be a big ol pass for me in Canada due to our shitty dollar. Hell, pretty much all of my gaming purchases are being cut down.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
They "work with PSVR" but there's no way Sony's not going to release a new version that's PSVR-branded. At the very least they have to rename the Start/Select buttons. I wouldn't but it past them to include some other upgrades as well but I don't expect they'll just continue to sell Move controllers as-is. But you're right, they wouldn't call it "Move 2.0".
I mean you could rebrand them, but I don't see the point. You can't see the controllers when you're in the headset lol. The visual inside the helmet of where to push will be much more important.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
oh, it absolutely will.
but anyone who is a big fan of VR should hope that the PSVR takes off because everyone benefits from the mainstream acceptance of VR. More VR love means more VR software and we all win in the end.
LoveCake
Member
I would think it would & should come with some tech-demos anyway or at least some that can be downloaded from the PSN store, but if it is also bundled with a game or choices of game/s then it would somewhat off-set the cost, how about a VR Alien Isolation for example?
I have just put mine on charge!
I have never used them with the PS4, I didn't use them much at all on my PS3, is there anything for them currently on the PS4?
The Maverick
Member
People are going to be so upset when VR takes off. I've been calling this price for over a year. Goodbye, real world.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No way this is happening. Sounds too good to be true.
Neuromancer
Member
Octodad and Surgeon Simulator, and the Just Dances. That's it off the top of my head.
I don't know about Alien Isolation but PSVR will surely come with some free games/demos/experiences.
GuitarAtomik
Member
It would really be more for the shelf than anything. It's not like they're making many if any Move games for PS4 so it would be better to rebrand them as VR specific. If they do put out a headset SKU without the camera, they'll need a new Move bundle that includes the PS4 camera instead of the PSEye anyway.
Beautiful Ninja
Member
Except for all the parts where the PSVR really isn't that similar in terms of design over the Oculus, sure.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I have no Move and no cameras. This is going to be expensive to pick up huh...
Dreamwriter
Member
Just don't actually buy any until Sony announces price/packing, since this rumor is 100% BSAlright, thanks! I guess the hunt for cheap controllers can begin