Google is my source....Ok, where's the source for that. That would change the conversation over here quite a bit.
How many from Indie developers? Because that's what this thread is about - one indie dev not getting a dev kit which are usually hard to come by until they start getting mass produced. First kits usually goes to the "big guys" - no difference for Sony/Microsoft.PS4 had guaranteed AAA games for launch and after.
That's what this thread is about. In the NX thread Arkham revealed that a dev under the branch of one of the two biggest western publishers didn't have dev kits as of the end of 2015.How many from Indie developers? Because that's what this thread is about - one indie dev not getting a dev kit which are usually hard to come by until they start getting mass produced. First kits usually goes to the "big guys" - no difference for Sony/Microsoft.
PS4 had guaranteed AAA games for launch and after.
Is the "unraveled dev" in the OP is an indie developer, though?
How many from Indie developers? Because that's what this thread is about - one indie dev not getting a dev kit which are usually hard to come by until they start getting mass produced. First kits usually goes to the "big guys" - no difference for Sony/Microsoft.
I'm assuming that would be Activision since there's rumor that EA got kits.That's what this thread is about. In the NX thread Arkham revealed that a dev under the branch of one of the two biggest western publishers didn't have dev kits as of the end of 2015.
My post was in reference to that. A combo of indie devs and AAA devs don't have dev kits yet and this thing is supposed to be releasing November 2016.
That's what this thread is about. In the NX thread Arkham revealed that a dev under the branch of one of the two biggest western publishers didn't have dev kits as of the end of 2015.
My post was in reference to that. A combo of one known indie dev and (potentially) one AAA dev don't have dev kits yet and this thing is supposed to be releasing November 2016.
Found an article about dev kits going out in November 2012 for PS4. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-11-01-new-ps4-dev-kits-reportedly-shipping-outHave you provided a source for your claim yet? No, google doesn't count as that.
Found an article about dev kits going out in November 2012 for PS4. http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-11-01-new-ps4-dev-kits-reportedly-shipping-out
PS4 kits going out en-mass articles from July 2013. https://www.vg247.com/2013/07/26/ps4-dev-kits-pricey-but-sony-handing-them-out-like-candy-rumour/
Then I find articles about NX dev kits going out in October 2015. http://www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-begins-distributing-software-kit-for-new-nx-platform-1444996588
When will NX dev kits go out to more devs. Summer won't be too late.
PS4 kits going out en-mass articles from July 2013. https://www.vg247.com/2013/07/26/ps4-dev-kits-pricey-but-sony-handing-them-out-like-candy-rumour/
The article is from July 2013, but there's no statement about the kits being sent in July 2013. It talks about the loaner program at past time, but no clear timestamp. Even more, PS4 had a quite nice indie presentation at the E3 before that., so those indies got devkits some time before that for sure.
Even with the leaks, we still dont' know that.That's what this thread is about. In the NX thread Arkham revealed that a dev under the branch of one of the two biggest western publishers didn't have dev kits as of the end of 2015.
My post was in reference to that. A combo of indie devs and AAA devs don't have dev kits yet and this thing is supposed to be November 2016 releasing.
Because the spreading further part should've happened already if you want them to port software in time for launch.
And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.PS4 was the exact same way.
It is still hard to tell at this point. And early announcements are no indication...neither the amount of games at launch.And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.
And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.
Yeah, even for PS4 it took awhile for the indie ball to get rolling.And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.
And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.
And it got minimal indie support at launch but at least got AAA games. Nintendo looks like it'll be barebones at launch with the exception of their own output. Which is always a Nintendo consoles problem.
How can people compare a Sony home console to a nintendo hw in terms of western F third party policy and consequent support?
Please.
I am a nintendo fan but I am expecting almost zero western third party support il on NX for many reasons and I think it would be better for anyone to settle their expectations down
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.How do you know that? Because people under NDA aren't spilling the beans?
I have history as proof. Look at the Wii U. Look at the PS4 when it was 9 months from release. Lots of leaks were happening around February 2013 and you know Sony consoles are getting big AAA support no matter what.You have zero proof for this at this point. Zero. Could it happen? Yes. Is it guaranteed? No. Are you posting a bunch of posts acting like it is guaranteed? Yes.
Nobody is comparing anything. As the post above pointed out, PS4 devkits were out around the same timeframe as NX is if itmis releasing this year. That was the only statement being made.
Wii U was announced super early, though. We knew its name and anyone could make a game for it. Many did, there were a lot of indie and multiplatform games available the first few months.Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
I have history as proof. Look at the Wii U. Look at the PS4 when it was 9 months from release. Lots of leaks were happening around February 2013 and you know Sony consoles are getting big AAA support no matter what.
Nintendo is different. They can't survive another gen where they're in this echo chamber and their consoles become only good for Nintendo published games or the odd Japanese exclusive.
Some of us were hoping the NX would be nintendos chance to finally change and get third party support but based off what I'm hearing from EA, Arkham, Iherre, Ideaman, Unravel dev and some other accounts, this is the Wii U all over again.
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
I have history as proof. Look at the Wii U. Look at the PS4 when it was 9 months from release. Lots of leaks were happening around February 2013 and you know Sony consoles are getting big AAA support no matter what.
Nintendo is different. They can't survive another gen where they're in this echo chamber and their consoles become only good for Nintendo published games or the odd Japanese exclusive.
Some of us were hoping the NX would be nintendos chance to finally change and get third party support but based off what I'm hearing from EA, Arkham, Iherre, Ideaman, Unravel dev and some other accounts, this is the Wii U all over again.
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
I have history as proof. Look at the Wii U. Look at the PS4 when it was 9 months from release. Lots of leaks were happening around February 2013 and you know Sony consoles are getting big AAA support no matter what.
Nintendo is different. They can't survive another gen where they're in this echo chamber and their consoles become only good for Nintendo published games or the odd Japanese exclusive.
Some of us were hoping the NX would be nintendos chance to finally change and get third party support but based off what I'm hearing from EA, Arkham, Iherre, Ideaman, Unravel dev and some other accounts, this is the Wii U all over again.
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
I have history as proof. Look at the Wii U.
Sure but the third party shifts usually happen moving from Nintendo lol (N64 being the start).Come on. There have been numerous instances of third party support shifting on some level between generations of systems.
I have no problem with you merely things won't be different. I do, however, have a problem with people stating things as fact when they themselves have no evidence other than "well, we haven't heard anything yet!" when we DO have evidence from devs on GAF saying the NDAs are MUCH tighter this time around.
Because the Wii U around this time was dead quiet too and everyone assumed it was because of NDA and lots of games being made for it and they were saving the announcements for E3. Then E3 2012 happenes and we got nintendoland, ZombiU and old ass ports and a software drought in year one.
Come on. There have been numerous instances of third party support shifting on some level between generations of systems.
I have no problem with you merely things won't be different. I do, however, have a problem with people stating things as fact when they themselves have no evidence other than "well, we haven't heard anything yet!" when we DO have evidence from devs on GAF saying the NDAs are MUCH tighter this time around.
Nintendo is tone deaf? They think all westerners care about is E3.Does anyone know why Nintendo banks everything on E3 so damn hard?
Before PS4 e3 they announced, knack, shadowfall, second son, features and all that.. they can still save some stuff for e3 as well.
Even when they dont have much they wait till e3Nintendo is tone deaf? They think all westerners care about is E3.
Does anyone know why Nintendo banks everything on E3 so damn hard?
Before PS4 e3 they announced, knack, shadowfall, second son, features and all that.. they can still save some stuff for e3 as well.
SDK's basically allow devs to port there games without having to have the hardware to a point. I'm assuming Nintendo feels the porting process is easy. The hardware could be then used for optimizations.
Even when they dont have much they wait till e3
I think there's a difference here. I don't remember major developers announcing Wii U games well before the system was even announced. I think it's safe to say that Square Enix is on board. They really weren't for the Wii U. Just because people aren't leaking stuff doesn't mean things aren't going on. This is true for every system ever. Best you can do is wait to see how it all turns out, because none of us are privy to that information right now.
History tells us a lot of things, but we also should remember that things change constantly. I remember people thinking the PS3 was going to rock everyone's world before it was released, even at that insane price point. That didn't happen. Waiting to get more information before making these kinds of claims might be a good idea.
The rumored DQ XI for NX is extremely flimsy, and isn't really nothing, considering that it will be on the PS4 too. It'll be like the Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate for the Wii U. Big budget title with its limitation to how it can expand the install base.
For Nintendo's case, its safer to assume that there isn't anything going on for them.
SDK's basically allow devs to port there games without having to have the hardware to a point. I'm assuming Nintendo feels the porting process is easy. The hardware could be then used for optimizations.
You have zero proof for this at this point. Zero. Could it happen? Yes. Is it guaranteed? No. Are you posting a bunch of posts acting like it is guaranteed? Yes.
Nobody is comparing anything. As the post above pointed out, PS4 devkits were out around the same timeframe as NX is if itmis releasing this year. That was the only statement being made.
I wouldn't describe a game that was announced to be coming to the NX live by the creator himself at its reveal conference as "extremely flimsy".
In any case, SquareEnix and Nintendo seem to be getting along better than in recent years, so we will see what will come out of it.
I hope the unique thing isn't the free form display.I remember reg said they they would wait until 3th parties have a good idea to use this new unique thing...
ps4 kits were out at this time for some indie games. AAA leaks were all over the place. That is the.main difference and the reason why, as stated by this dev directly, nintendo playing the secret ninja game with anyone, indie or not, is.just the same old nintendo, terribile at third party relationship
Isn't it true that Nintendo generally keeps its hardware development a secret to its own software development teams ?
As for Wii U, here's a list of some of the major third party launch ports that show how long it took for Wii U versions to come out compared to the Xbox 360 and PS3 versions:
Mass Effect 3: Released 8 months later
Dark Siders 2: Released 3 months later
Assassin's Creed 3: Released a month later
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2: Released same month
Madden NFL 2013: Released around 3 months later
Tekken Tag Team Tournament 2: Released 2 months later
NBA2K13: Released a month later
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge: Released around 5 months earlier (based on NA release schedule)
Sonic Racing Transformed: Released in same month