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Experience Inc. Community Thread: "Dungeons? Yeah we got Dungeons."

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Very, very nice indeed. But seriously, not sure why I assumed it was one or the other for the original vs new art style but really glad I can mix.
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Migmy fighter...? Gimp that, gimp this wth (?_?)

yeah the portraits just seem to be all lumped together. the visual settings just effect the story event stuff and main npcs in game.
 

Dorarnae

Member
finally made it to the final dungeon of the main story. was a bit stressing the last few boss that can target back row. there's only 1 or 2 boss now that scare me in the final dungeon, other than that it should be fine. I'll probably class change again a bit soon.
 

dkoy

Member
finally made it to the final dungeon of the main story. was a bit stressing the last few boss that can target back row. there's only 1 or 2 boss now that scare me in the final dungeon, other than that it should be fine. I'll probably class change again a bit soon.

Are you still doing your full Migmy run? If so, bravo. How much post game is there and will you do all of it with your Migmy party?
 

Dorarnae

Member
Are you still doing your full Migmy run? If so, bravo. How much post game is there and will you do all of it with your Migmy party?

yeah I am still doing 1lp migmy party. no one died except the 3 characters in the beginning...post game isn't really big, it's just a lot of farming and I'll probably do it.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
finally made it to the final dungeon of the main story. was a bit stressing the last few boss that can target back row. there's only 1 or 2 boss now that scare me in the final dungeon, other than that it should be fine. I'll probably class change again a bit soon.

lol fantastic knew you would be able to pull it off. Take a screen cap of the final party stats when you are done.

thats some dedication since trying to just use a single migmy is stress enough with their low hp
 

Dorarnae

Member
finally beat the main story. got scared at one boss, I used the wrong divinity skill and it was a bit ugly, good thing I had a few doll or else I would of lost a character.

main character
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front row
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back row
(I plan to change her to ranger and wizard eventually)
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clear time(it's a bit less, maybe 2-3 minutes less because I killed the guy at the entrance of the post game dungeon).
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and the characters that permanently died: Rip Rose,viki and serah.
they were lvl 13 class changed them and then died to a boss.

I think I'll go eat a bit and relax lol.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
finally beat the main story. got scared at one boss, I used the wrong divinity skill and it was a bit ugly, good thing I had a few doll or else I would of lost a character.

main character
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front row
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back row
(I plan to change her to ranger and wizard eventually)
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flav%20stat_zps9hxk8avp.png

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lake%20stat_zps0m4wb7ty.png

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clear time(it's a bit less, maybe 2-3 minutes less because I killed the guy at the entrance of the post game dungeon).
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and the characters that permanently died: Rip Rose,viki and serah.
they were lvl 13 class changed them and then died to a boss.

I think I'll go eat a bit and relax lol.

lol nice and congrats on that.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Will be interesting to see what kind of "new" titles are going to be announced. Outside of the other expected already announced stuff such as Demon Gaze 2 and the "updated" SOSC.

Demon Gaze and Stranger of Sword City developer Experience, Inc. will host a 10th anniversary commemoration event on May 1 from 17:30 to 19:30 JST at the UDX Gallery in Akihabara, Tokyo, the company announced.

In addition to a first look at new titles, the event will feature upcoming titles and the latest information on various projects. Yurika Takagi and Rika Tachibana will MC.

http://gematsu.com/2016/03/experience-inc-10th-anniversary-event-set-may-1
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
will be nice to see new stuff. and congratz to them, 10 years already...

wonder how the new titles will schedule in that and what platform. though since in the past they talked about multiple xbo projects would guess that might be talked about.

will be nice to see something new on dg 2 as am curious on the setting with the games timeline.
 

cj_iwakura

Member
If only it were three weeks earlier... maybe I could at least visit their HQ or something. I'll be in Tokyo from April 9th to the 16th.
 

Mozendo

Member
Are Japanese developers really that welcoming when people go into their HQ?
I remember an old online friend of mine about 10 years ago when to the CyberConnect2 HQ and got a picture with their CEO and his autograph too.
If they are it makes me want to visit Japan even more.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Are Japanese developers really that welcoming when people go into their HQ?
I remember an old online friend of mine about 10 years ago when to the CyberConnect2 HQ and got a picture with their CEO and his autograph too.
If they are it makes me want to visit Japan even more.

Not the best idea as you have no idea what kind of schedule said company has along with it is never appreciated just to show up unnounced and without official reason. Regardless of country.
 

Dorarnae

Member
I just killed the mumic, it was actually easy. well with an entire front row with the lvl 21 knight skill it helps hehe.
 

Stalk

Member
I know this thread is more about news and stuff but I've been putting down Demon's Gaze at Ether Mirage due to the healing being absolute BS and tonight I finally beat the damn thing. I last played the game in November...

ONWARD.
 

dkoy

Member
I made a thread. It's confirmed that Exp Inc has multiple games for xb1 in development for the west
https://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1200332

I hate to be a port beggar but I really hope they come to PSV as well. Didn't know Chikami was an XBox fanboy. Care to confirm Parakeetman? :p

I know this thread is more about news and stuff but I've been putting down Demon's Gaze at Ether Mirage due to the healing being absolute BS and tonight I finally beat the damn thing. I last played the game in November...

ONWARD.

I'd say the thread is for anything EXP related, since Dorarnae posted about his challenge run. I don't really remember but is Ether Mirage the mid-boss before entering the castle? That one's a serious difficulty spike that put a lot of people off I think.
 

Stalk

Member
Ether Mirage the mid-boss before entering the castle? That one's a serious difficulty spike that put a lot of people off I think.

Yeah that was the one. Just irritated me, mostly cuz' I'd made it through most of the game no problem up to that point.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I hate to be a port beggar but I really hope they come to PSV as well. Didn't know Chikami was an XBox fanboy. Care to confirm Parakeetman? :p

I'd say the thread is for anything EXP related, since Dorarnae posted about his challenge run. I don't really remember but is Ether Mirage the mid-boss before entering the castle? That one's a serious difficulty spike that put a lot of people off I think.

That information actually has been known for a while through their EXP channel stuff. Not really sure if they would come out on the PSV as we have no idea if MS is funding any of those projects or not.

The simple reason why they have supported the Xbox is just due to having developed games on windows and such originally. Outside of that they did do titles for the PSP and PSV. Am sure they skipped the PS3 due to that being a shitshow development wise.

Outside of that there is no way that they do not know the difference in popularity with the PS4 vs XBO. So will just have to wait and see if anything comes from that.

One thing for sure is the XBO is pretty much dead here. Getting my copy of SOSC was a matter of luck as had the last one in the store. It was not even displayed in the new section and as usual the XBO was shoved off into a corner along with the budget / used 360 stuff.

The Vita is not the most healthy platform in the West either in terms of growth so would imagine that eventually things will have to move the PS4 direction. That is if SOSC does not sell as expected on the XBO. Though doubt we will ever know that considering how there is no real media create type of stuff for the West.

I know this thread is more about news and stuff but I've been putting down Demon's Gaze at Ether Mirage due to the healing being absolute BS and tonight I finally beat the damn thing. I last played the game in November...

ONWARD.

lol everyone hates that boss apparently. Since if you do not have the DPS it just becomes impossible due to the healing.
 

Faustek

Member
Not the best idea as you have no idea what kind of schedule said company has along with it is never appreciated just to show up unnounced and without official reason. Regardless of country.

Hey I remember, on several occasions, where I showed up at Avalanche to visit an old friend. They where very friendly and showed me around and even gave me a bun. Actually I always got coffee and a bun if I wanted one. Then again I always called him and set up a date before I swung by(by or bye?)


The simple reason why they have supported the Xbox is just due to having developed games on windows and such originally.

hmm, always assumed MS Japan helped them with money for an exclusivity window in return. Well whatever makes them survive :)
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Hey I remember, on several occasions, where I showed up at Avalanche to visit an old friend. They where very friendly and showed me around and even gave me a bun. Actually I always got coffee and a bun if I wanted one. Then again I always called him and set up a date before I swung by(by or bye?)

hmm, always assumed MS Japan helped them with money for an exclusivity window in return. Well whatever makes them survive :)

that and you actually knew someone in the company. along with what you said about having scheduled in advance.

i dont recall them ever mentioning actual paid exclusivity during any of their streams outside of saying ms has helped support them which usually can be taken as support through getting the product released.

the studio is only around 30 something people i think and with what we have seen over the years constantly working on something. since realistically we all know the xbo situation in japan is not going to improve and relying on the unknown market of the western xbo audience as a business decision they eventually will have to make their way to the ps4 i reckon. though a matter of when is the question seeing how they already have things in development for this year. Demon Gaze 2, The updated ihoujin which they talked about in live streams and the unknown xbo title that they are talking about here.

If we are to think from a development standpoint thats pretty much a full year. Plus no idea how far along that unknown XBO title is. Cant imagine too far considering we just got SOSC on the XBO and they are working on DG2 now since they showed those graphics and did an announcement at the kadokawa event.
 

Faustek

Member
that and you actually knew someone in the company. along with what you said about having scheduled in advance.

i dont recall them ever mentioning actual paid exclusivity during any of their streams outside of saying ms has helped support them which usually can be taken as support through getting the product released.

True enough. Hey I'm tired. I've pulled my hair out sitting at work for 50 hours this week only. Going on a mini vacation and everything just had to go to shit :p

Anyway, yeah, support. I might jump the gun but to me it spells "money". Now that doesn't need to mean cash but promotions, dev help etc etc.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
True enough. Hey I'm tired. I've pulled my hair out sitting at work for 50 hours this week only. Going on a mini vacation and everything just had to go to shit :p

Anyway, yeah, support. I might jump the gun but to me it spells "money". Now that doesn't need to mean cash but promotions, dev help etc etc.

murphys law man.

always fun when a final build has a ship sailing through terrain as the whole ocean has become a landmass then finding out that old code was combined with new code breaking everything lol. good times.

i kinda wonder what ms japan their gaming division even looks like at this point. would imagine with how things are now it must be on a skeleton crew
 

Wereroku

Member
that and you actually knew someone in the company. along with what you said about having scheduled in advance.

i dont recall them ever mentioning actual paid exclusivity during any of their streams outside of saying ms has helped support them which usually can be taken as support through getting the product released.

the studio is only around 30 something people i think and with what we have seen over the years constantly working on something. since realistically we all know the xbo situation in japan is not going to improve and relying on the unknown market of the western xbo audience as a business decision they eventually will have to make their way to the ps4 i reckon. though a matter of when is the question seeing how they already have things in development for this year. Demon Gaze 2, The updated ihoujin which they talked about in live streams and the unknown xbo title that they are talking about here.

If we are to think from a development standpoint thats pretty much a full year. Plus no idea how far along that unknown XBO title is. Cant imagine too far considering we just got SOSC on the XBO and they are working on DG2 now since they showed those graphics and did an announcement at the kadokawa event.

Maybe they will port some of their older 360 games over to XBO and release them internationally as well. Would open them to a wider audience and would be a good small project while in the planning stages for something bigger.

murphys law man.

always fun when a final build has a ship sailing through terrain as the whole ocean has become a landmass then finding out that old code was combined with new code breaking everything lol. good times.

i kinda wonder what ms japan their gaming division even looks like at this point. would imagine with how things are now it must be on a skeleton crew

It can't be very robust but dev support probably doesn't need a huge staff.
 

Faustek

Member
Maybe they will port some of their older 360 games over to XBO and release them internationally as well. Would open them to a wider audience and would be a good small project while in the planning stages for something bigger.

Hmm, not sure how the people have reacted to the BC but if it sells why spend time porting as I assume the games wouldn't look much better either way?
Instead release it as a BC game and try to bring their already existing XBO ports over and updating the physical ones to be able to have English language options?

Fake edit: I like you Para, I really do :D
 

Shizuka

Member
That's because I know people would rather buy the game as an XONE port, even if it's originally a 360 game. It's the same as selling PSP games for Vita owners for the first couple of years, that even though both Vita and PSP would run those games, most people would rather buy Vita games for their Vita.
 

Wereroku

Member
Hmm, not sure how the people have reacted to the BC but if it sells why spend time porting as I assume the games wouldn't look much better either way?
Instead release it as a BC game and try to bring their already existing XBO ports over and updating the physical ones to be able to have English language options?

Fake edit: I like you Para, I really do :D

Because they would have to localize the 360 versions as well. Why not just start fresh on XBO especially since the X360 emulator does have some performance issues occasionally.

Edit: Also as Shizuka says a new release will get more attention then a late 360 localization.

not too sure if they would do that as stated their schedule is packed and releasing older titles in the west would require everything that has to do with localization then the other issue of rights management depending. in the situation of if SOSC does not sell well it would be a sign to them that there might not be a market for the genre on the system which would stop the thought on localized ports.

not even sure if they are doing domestic bc for their older titles considering how dead the market is.

Yeah just thinking probably not what they are up to but I wouldn't mind a console version of the older games in english.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Maybe they will port some of their older 360 games over to XBO and release them internationally as well. Would open them to a wider audience and would be a good small project while in the planning stages for something bigger.



It can't be very robust but dev support probably doesn't need a huge staff.

not too sure if they would do that as stated their schedule is packed and releasing older titles in the west would require everything that has to do with localization then the other issue of rights management depending. in the situation of if SOSC does not sell well it would be a sign to them that there might not be a market for the genre on the system which would stop the thought on localized ports.

not even sure if they are doing domestic bc for their older titles considering how dead the market is.
 

Faustek

Member
That's because I know people would rather buy the game as an XONE port, even if it's originally a 360 game. It's the same as selling PSP games for Vita owners for the first couple of years, that even though both Vita and PSP would run those games, most people would rather buy Vita games for their Vita.

hmm, I guess I'm the weird one then. As soon as I could I bought many of my older PSP games on the Vita as they released. Same for PS3 and PS1/2 games and even some ports on PC as they came :/
But you are probably right though.

EDIT: anyway, OFF TOPIC!
Sorry.

On Topic:
The west is getting more games. It's effing great ^^
 

dkoy

Member
hmm, I guess I'm the weird one then. As soon as I could I bought many of my older PSP games on the Vita as they released. Same for PS3 and PS1/2 games and even some ports on PC as they came :/
But you are probably right though.

EDIT: anyway, OFF TOPIC!
Sorry.

On Topic:
The west is getting more games. It's effing great ^^

Is it actually getting more games?
We only know that unknown titles are in development, not whether localisation will occur. Just tempering expectations.
 

Faustek

Member
Is it actually getting more games?
We only know that unknown titles are in development, not whether localisation will occur. Just tempering expectations.

Well It's also releasing on XBO(SoSC) and probably Steam. Maybe I should have said more places to play and perhaps more games? ^^
Anyway, trying to be optimistic.
 

Wereroku

Member
Is it actually getting more games?
We only know that unknown titles are in development, not whether localisation will occur. Just tempering expectations.

If they are making XBO games I would have to assume they will release them internationally. The domestic market for Experience is a burning tire fire. I think LTD of XBO in Japan was around 65k.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
If they are making XBO games I would have to assume they will release them internationally. The domestic market for Experience is a burning tire fire. I think LTD of XBO in Japan was around 65k.

The XBO honestly is a HUGE waste of resources domestically.

And we still have and doubt ever will know how SOSC does in the West thanks to no real data on game sales and whatnots.

Though can imagine a lot of things will depend on how it does as it will be the measuring point on if there is a market or not for DRPGs in the XBO ecosystem in the West.
 

Stalk

Member
there's multiple way to kill him, it just depend on what you use...

Oh? What do you mean?

lol everyone hates that boss apparently. Since if you do not have the DPS it just becomes impossible due to the healing.

Seeing as a lot of earlier stuff can be cheesed due to God Mirror and stuff it's a bit of a surprise if you haven't been working hard enough :p

Beat Demon's Gaze game this morning, had a few false starts with the final boss but tore through it pretty quick ultimately. Fun game, I've got Operation Abyss sitting on the side from ages a'go so I may give that a shot before I consider Stranger :)
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Oh? What do you mean?



Seeing as a lot of earlier stuff can be cheesed due to God Mirror and stuff it's a bit of a surprise if you haven't been working hard enough :p

Beat Demon's Gaze game this morning, had a few false starts with the final boss but tore through it pretty quick ultimately. Fun game, I've got Operation Abyss sitting on the side from ages a'go so I may give that a shot before I consider Stranger :)

Congrats on completing the game!

One thing with Op Abyss is that the game is based off of pretty much their original title they had first created as Exp Inc. just with a new coat of paint over it. So a lot of stuff will feel quite rough in comparison to the newly built Demon Gaze.

If you keep that in mind and not think of it as a title which was developed from the ground up then you should enjoy it if you like the general formula that Exp Inc does things. Though there are still some design issues with Abyss that fans of DG did not like.

Though Abyss it is easier in the sense to get stronger characters faster due to how the equipment creation / modifying goes. Also game does have a ton of loot too.

Thankfully off the top of my head Abyss does not have any really irritating bosses like DG did.
 
Seeing as a lot of earlier stuff can be cheesed due to God Mirror and stuff it's a bit of a surprise if you haven't been working hard enough :p
Ha, I nearly went through the game without ever using God Mirror. Didn't even realize what it did until I was looking for strategies against Quasar.

Thankfully off the top of my head Abyss does not have any really irritating bosses like DG did.
The final elimination target (Omega Wyvern?) was like that, with the constantly regenerating limbs. But it is thankfully optional, so you don't have to take it on until you're ready.

And yeah, I'd agree the hardest thing about Abyss is how obtuse and overwhelming the interface can be at first. Affix FauPar? Type Mus? There's a lot to take in. Also there are some puzzle dungeons that are a fair bit more complicated than anything in DG, though the player messages can help in a lot of these cases.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Ha, I nearly went through the game without ever using God Mirror. Didn't even realize what it did until I was looking for strategies against Quasar.


The final elimination target (Omega Wyvern?) was like that, with the constantly regenerating limbs. But it is thankfully optional, so you don't have to take it on until you're ready.

And yeah, I'd agree the hardest thing about Abyss is how obtuse and overwhelming the interface can be at first. Affix FauPar? Type Mus? There's a lot to take in. Also there are some puzzle dungeons that are a fair bit more complicated than anything in DG, though the player messages can help in a lot of these cases.

The problem too is the whole help text and whatnots was all mixed up so what existed in the JP one was all different from the localized version. Also when the various status stuff was put into English that didnt help the confusion either for new players.
 

Dorarnae

Member
Oh? What do you mean?

Samurai with carnage X(I think that's the name), just need to have very high evasion.
pretty sure assassin with shadow assault can do pretty good dmg.
Divine weapon on all your dps.
Mars enraged.
a wizard party casting quad bolt with magic boost.
 
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