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SFV: Premium Costumes

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Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
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Glad to see Hawlucha finally get into a fighting game.
 
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skLaFarebear

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Kintaro said:
Evolve was pretty light on content at launch and full of DLC was what I meant.

Yes, technically you can earn a ton of FM if you like to suffer through bullshit Survival mode garbage time happy fun fun. Even the most hardcore and pros don't want to bother with that shit because its NOT FUN. How many colors you see at tourneys? NOT MANY.

You earn such a shit amount of FM from actually playing matches against real people, it's pretty stupid. It's like they got it backwards. "Want to earn FM from actually PLAYING people? Nah, son. Go play this shit mode with shit AI over and over for your FM and colors."

Until they adjust the amount of FM earned through actually playing against live people, no one is going to actually take the "earn enough FM in game" seriously. I don't know how much you earn through Trials though, so that's something.
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Sorry, but I honestly don't even know what point you're trying to make right now.

All im saying is that evolve forced you to buy gameplay-related stuff and SFV doesn't which makes the comparison bad. Not sure what tourneys and colors have to do with anything.
 
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Vice

Member
Kintaro said:
Evolve was pretty light on content at launch and full of DLC was what I meant.

Yes, technically you can earn a ton of FM if you like to suffer through bullshit Survival mode garbage time happy fun fun. Even the most hardcore and pros don't want to bother with that shit because its NOT FUN. How many colors you see at tourneys? NOT MANY.

You earn such a shit amount of FM from actually playing matches against real people, it's pretty stupid. It's like they got it backwards. "Want to earn FM from actually PLAYING people? Nah, son. Go play this shit mode with shit AI over and over for your FM and colors."

Until they adjust the amount of FM earned through actually playing against live people, no one is going to actually take the "earn enough FM in game" seriously. I don't know how much you earn through Trials though, so that's something.



My mistake. It's been awhile.
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As far as earnig FM through gameplay I haven't bothered with Suevival mode outside of some easy mode unlocks and have gotten to about 300k before doing trials.

As far as pros not doing survival mode that's mostly because they aren't interested in single player stuff. I know a few player who haven't even bothered to touch story or survival because they just want to get better. At tournaments it's mostly because often those consoles aren't owned by the venue/tournament organizer and instead are rented from a third party or loaned from Sony. As time goes on I'm sure more stream stations will have full DLC/colors.
 
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Omnistalgic

Member
Kintaro said:
Evolve was pretty light on content at launch and full of DLC was what I meant.

Yes, technically you can earn a ton of FM if you like to suffer through bullshit Survival mode garbage time happy fun fun. Even the most hardcore and pros don't want to bother with that shit because its NOT FUN. How many colors you see at tourneys? NOT MANY.

You earn such a shit amount of FM from actually playing matches against real people, it's pretty stupid. It's like they got it backwards. "Want to earn FM from actually PLAYING people? Nah, son. Go play this shit mode with shit AI over and over for your FM and colors."

Until they adjust the amount of FM earned through actually playing against live people, no one is going to actually take the "earn enough FM in game" seriously.
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i somewhat disagree...After about a months time Im over 500k and I'm doing mostly everything I find easy with the exception of beating hell mode with Ken.

Story mode
Survival easy
Survival normal
Leveling your characters (better if you play multiple)
Demonstrations
Turtorials (depend on your skill level maybe?)

I'd say all of that is pretty easy and doesn't require a crazy amount of time, but it is substantial, survival normal is easy just takes like 15 minutes a character. That's also most of the colors for your character if you do them all.

Some stuff I'd like changed is more FM per win. You should get 50 for just playing. Maybe around 100 of 150 for wins?

Also colors should be unlocked for all costumes, or you should get FM for doing survival again for alternate consumes.

Survival needs a continue option

Ken needs his face fixed!!!
 
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mattp

Member
rmanthorp said:
This is unreal... They've taken the fucking MOBA pricing model when they are a $60 game?! WTF...
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people keep saying this..
its the same model!
you dont get every character in LoL when you join. in fact, you dont get any! just whatever character is currently in the free rotation
sf5 is just like buying a starter pack
 
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Brian_FETO

Banned
Kintaro said:
Evolve was pretty light on content at launch and full of DLC was what I meant.

Yes, technically you can earn a ton of FM if you like to suffer through bullshit Survival mode garbage time happy fun fun. Even the most hardcore and pros don't want to bother with that shit because its NOT FUN. How many colors you see at tourneys? NOT MANY.

You earn such a shit amount of FM from actually playing matches against real people, it's pretty stupid. It's like they got it backwards. "Want to earn FM from actually PLAYING people? Nah, son. Go play this shit mode with shit AI over and over for your FM and colors."

Until they adjust the amount of FM earned through actually playing against live people, no one is going to actually take the "earn enough FM in game" seriously. I don't know how much you earn through Trials though, so that's something.
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They didn't say it was super fun earning those characters.

It's purposely a grind so that you spend, but the fact is you have the option to actually earn those characters for free. If it was meant to be easy so everyone could get a bunch of fight money they would just include all characters for free with no unlocks.

It still takes an hour max to earn one free character. They've told you the characters coming this year so you can choose to wait if you want.

You can spend $30 on the season pass and then keep all of your earned fight money for the next season of characters/costumes.
 
robot

robot

Member
Are we expecting these costumes to launch today even though the whole zenny system isn't? I have a feeling we'll be waiting a bit for these.
 
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Camp1nCarl

Member
mattp said:
people keep saying this..
its the same model!
you dont get every character in LoL when you join. in fact, you dont get any! just whatever character is currently in the free rotation
sf5 is just like buying a starter pack
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To be fair to the criticism though, $60 for a "starter pack" is a bit steep when that's the price of fully fledged games. We are just more accustomed to these DLC practices nowadays.
 
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mattp

Member
Camp1nCarl said:
To be fair to the criticism though, $60 for a "starter pack" is a bit steep when that's the price of fully fledged games. We are just more accustomed to these DLC practices nowadays.
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well its more than a starter pack though. it IS a full fledged game


...well it is as of today with the patches lol
 
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bounchfx

Member
mattp said:
people keep saying this..
its the same model!
you dont get every character in LoL when you join. in fact, you dont get any! just whatever character is currently in the free rotation
sf5 is just like buying a starter pack
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Which is one reason LoL is not good
Their shit is expensive

Dota 2 you get the game and every hero free. And you get items free randomly after matches. Regular sets are around this price range or you can get them on the community market for pennies. SFV should not have been full price if they were going to price costumes this way tbh. They did it because they could and they knew people would pay. Not because it's fair or what other games have done

Edit: that being said, these are very intentionally a premium item, and we can buy other stuff with in game earn able currency. Game still should have retailed at 40 IMO
 
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markwaters

Neo Member
Of these costumes, I feel like Laura's is the only straight upgrade. That's probably what her costume should have been in the first place. The only one that is objectively terrible is Ken's. The rest are pretty cool or at least fun and differentiating!
 
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Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
mattp said:
people keep saying this..
its the same model!
you dont get every character in LoL when you join. in fact, you dont get any! just whatever character is currently in the free rotation
sf5 is just like buying a starter pack
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I don't know much on LoL but looking through the site... you can pick between a rotating set of 10 characters. Or you can play the game and earn credit to buy fighters. Or just buy the fighter.

SFV is one expensive starter pack. =)

(I'm mostly kidding).

Omnistalgic said:
i somewhat disagree...After about a months time Im over 500k and I'm doing mostly everything I find easy with the exception of beating hell mode with Ken.

Story mode
Survival easy
Survival normal
Leveling your characters (better if you play multiple)
Demonstrations
Turtorials (depend on your skill level maybe?)

I'd say all of that is pretty easy and doesn't require a crazy amount of time, but it is substantial, survival normal is easy just takes like 15 minutes a character. That's also most of the colors for your character if you do them all.
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Trials are brand new so I'll be tackling those. Not sure how much FM is earned there. Watching those shitty demos earns like...what, 16k FM? Survival...is just flat out boring. It's braindead for 25+ fights then it goes into cheap, input reading mode. None of that is actually fun or engaging. Pile that on for Hard mode was is 50 fighters, 40+ of which are just stupid. It's not fun.

The fun part? Playing other people. Sadly, it's also the worse way to earn FM. So, yes. I could bore myself to tears playing Survival for most of the FM (and that is where most of the FM comes from at this point I believe). But that's just piss poor design. Also, the best colors are locked behind hard (DAMMIT). =P

Brian_FETO said:
They didn't say it was super fun earning those characters.

It's purposely a grind so that you spend, but the fact is you have the option to actually earn those characters for free. If it was meant to be easy so everyone could get a bunch of fight money they would just include all characters for free with no unlocks.
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Look, I play Korean MMOs. I know what a grind is. I know what fun and unfun grinds are. Unfun grinds, in any capacity, is poor design. Survival mode for most of the FM/Colors and shitty AI? Piss poor design.

Anyway, I can totally see how people would be put off by $60 retail launch, content light title with F2P type costume DLC for real money. If you can't...that's fine too I guess?

Edit: BTW: I should mention that if you're playing any Survival and you get disconnected from the server, it just straight drops you back to menu and you get no credit? Go look at the OT and see how that bullshit goes over.
 
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skLaFarebear

Member
bounchfx said:
Which is one reason LoL is not good
Their shit is expensive

Dota 2 you get the game and every hero free. And you get items free randomly after matches. Regular sets are around this price range or you can get them on the community market for pennies. SFV should not have been full price if they were going to price costumes this way tbh. They did it because they could and they knew people would pay. Not because it's fair or what other games have done

Edit: that being said, these are very intentionally a premium item, and we can buy other stuff with in game earn able currency. Game still should have retailed at 40 IMO
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I'm not familiar with Dota 2, but doesn't that premium items that are unlocked only through buying keys with real money to unlock chests that may or may not have the item? I think that's a bit different than what SFV is doing with their premium stuff.
 
Strangelove77

Strangelove77

Member
So just so I don't waste my fight money, there's no other way to get the story costumes than buying them from the store, right?

I also already have Ryu's story costume, but I have no idea how I got it.
 
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Dark Ninja

Member
Strangelove77 said:
So just so I don't waste my fight money, there's no other way to get the story costumes than buying them from the store, right?

I also already have Ryu's story costume, but I have no idea how I got it.
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They are giving away Ryu and Chun story costume for FREE. Yes the only way to unlock the story costumes is to use FM currently.
 
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Omnistalgic

Member
Kintaro said:
I don't know much on LoL but looking through the site... you can pick between a rotating set of 10 characters. Or you can play the game and earn credit to buy fighters. Or just buy the fighter.

SFV is one expensive starter pack. =)

(I'm mostly kidding).



Trials are brand new so I'll be tackling those. Not sure how much FM is earned there. Watching those shitty demos earns like...what, 16k FM? Survival...is just flat out boring. It's braindead for 25+ fights then it goes into cheap, input reading mode. None of that is actually fun or engaging. Pile that on for Hard mode was is 50 fighters, 40+ of which are just stupid. It's not fun.

The fun part? Playing other people. Sadly, it's also the worse way to earn FM. So, yes. I could bore myself to tears playing Survival for most of the FM (and that is where most of the FM comes from at this point I believe). But that's just piss poor design. Also, the best colors are locked behind hard (DAMMIT). =Pr.
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yea I don't even remember how I beat hell mode not intoxicated. I had like 4 close matches in the 90's and my wife walked out of the room because she thought I might lose. At fight 97 she's like

"I can't watch you play this"

Insanity!!!

Hell mode trophy is still at like 0.1%

I will say if you are a trophy whore, Capcom made this one tough. I don't mind this option being the best route for FM, but yeah I agree should be alternate ways to earn colors, don't like that design choice either.
 
Strangelove77

Strangelove77

Member
The costume colors in the store only apply to the default costume. Alternate costumes have their own colors to unlock/buy probably.
They REALLY want this game to last. Welcome to grinding in a fighting game.
 
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