Hexa
Member
House gets up on stage at E3 and says:
AVAILABLE NOW!!!
Lets combine a bunch of thing SEGA screwed up with in the past.
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PS4K information (~2x GPU power w/ clock+, new CPU, price, tent. Q1 2017)
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House gets up on stage at E3 and says:
AVAILABLE NOW!!!
Lets combine a bunch of thing SEGA screwed up with in the past.
April announcement and November release sounds good pretty similar to Ps4 initial announcement and release schedule.
Gumbie
Member
Should just release it now. Even if you drop it tomorrow there will be morons who will be like "HURR APRIL 2ND....LATE APRIL FOOLS???" I mean you dropped the first bit March 30th and some people still thought it was April Fools....two days before April 1st.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How about no.
https://youtu.be/AoZ76eh2ky0?t=127
26fps [37ms per frame] on a stock PS4 in that ending scene with nice ["off-line rendered"] DOF, more than a year before game is set to be released.
edit - And BTW if they change their DOF for a more simpler solution in a final game, I will probably not give a fuck. Game will look gorgeous regardless.
Nice. This game is definitely going to be eye candy.
Oh you!
30fps = 33ms lag, 60fps = 16.5ms lag.
A survey of 1080 TVs between 2012-2013 revealed an input lag range of 19-70ms.
wapplew
Member
With PSVR, bunch of PSVR games. Bunch of first party exclusive in the holiday, I don't know I still have the money for it...
Edit: and NX with launch titles too, fuck you! Don't release all the hardware at once!
Bitch Pudding
Member
I'm ... interested? But, please, let some bombs left for Sony to drop during E3 for Christ sake...
Sidewinder
Member
Nice, I need more info!
GlamFM
Banned
Hype!
April fools is kind of outdated at this stage.
Enlighten us, and hopefully stop this ''outrage'' at being offered more options for consoles.
R10Neymarfan
Member
They gonna follow the Apple model and announce it at E3 then release it a month or so down the line?
GHG
Gold Member
Mushroom021
Member
LOL is this sarcasm? This thing is very real.
Silent Hill
Banned
Just release the info please. You have already said enough so releasing this info will not hurt regardless of date.
Obliterator
Member
Im not questioning if PS4.5 is real.
I have reason to question the veracity of this thread. But we will see one way or another soon enough.
Empyrean Heaven
Member
So games that basically exclusively work on the PS4K are coming, including GOW4? Fuck you Sony. I don't have a 4K TV and have no need for one, and you're going to shit on 3 years of early adopters?
Is it?
Why are you so set on not seeing the other side?
This thread you've been so set on telling people it's 100% real, 100% confirmed
Nothing is confirmed on this till Sony comes out and says it from their mouth really.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I said that was real deal in the trailer, which looks similar to those 8K screens they released. But the super high res screens have an obscene bokeh quality. Screens and discussion I was referencing are now added few posts up in the thread.How about no.
https://youtu.be/AoZ76eh2ky0?t=127
26fps [37ms per frame] on a stock PS4 in that ending scene with nice ["off-line rendered"
edit - And BTW if they change their DOF for a more simpler solution in a final game, I will probably not give a fuck. Game will look gorgeous regardless.
E3 and Holiday 2016 with regular ps4 price drop.
Marty Chinn
Member
Ya, I'm less worried if this is one upgrade per generation and then we get a new generation. It's switching to the iterative model that really worries and bothers me. I still think there are issues going with the mid generation upgrade, but nowhere near as problematic with removing generations all together.
I'm not all in at this point because there are so many unknowns that can have negative ramifications. I need to understand how this is going to affect the long term and big picture not just the immediate release of another system. I'm interested in this from a business standpoint, a mass consumer standpoint and a developer standpoint. I don't care about the individual level. A lot of people in here are arguing on behalf of what it means to them whether this is good or bad. The PS4K on its own doesn't really affect me. It's what the PS4K changes for the future which is where I'm taking a stance of caution and concern. I need more answers and information before I can get comfortable with the concept and I most certainly understand the potential of why that this may not be a good thing to do. It's really going to be interesting what Sony announces as the official console and their stance on the whole concept.
Silent Hill
Banned
Source?
2016 release would be awesome.
Mushroom021
Member
get ready for the crow
PdotMichael
Banned
Looking at the amount of cross gen titles and other developement shanigans. That's not what Sony will decide but what is lived reality by the devs.
Why does the title of your thread state Q1 2017 if the release is closer than we think?
Did a mod add that?
TheKastorian
Member
So much drama in this thread!
Wall street journal reported on it on the 28th. They have a pretty good record on their rumours.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
How did you read into that, lol?
potatohead
Member
Obliterator
Member
Alright, will do.
Just to add, having "off-line" rendered layers of data on screen in nextgen games is something we already saw.
Ryse used beefy PCs to pre-calculate detailed physics systems [cloth, destruction, etc], and then they took the "cache" of those events and infused them in the game. Since they are fixed recordings, there is no variability in them.
https://www.fxguide.com/featured/the-tech-of-cryteks-ryse-son-of-rome/
Rise of the Tomb Raider infused into their real-time cinematic with offline-rendered avalanches and water. Since user cannot move camera in those scenes, they can create BINK video layer that is synced with the movements of the in-game camera. Add few post-process effects, and voila... infinite power of the offline render in gamers hands. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=8zst4njU1wQ
Mushroom021
Member
2 bish verified insiders
wall street journal
patrick klepek
eurogamer
let it go, you're fooling yourself if you don't believe this.
GAFs very own tech virtuoso (jeff rigby) actually did a writeup when the rumor first broke on why the 4.5 made sense in terms of how the tech has evolved. I believe the number he said was 1.8Tflops more based on the technique he believed them to be using. This lines up directly with what is being said in the OP.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Drop it now. Why tomorrow?
Yeah, the original title was simply "ps4k"
wapplew
Member
Sony still have control over first party, they can either make exclusive too push adoption rate or keep PS4 owner happy and stop making exclusive for one particular iteration.
Obliterator
Member
No publication has backed the OPs claims just FYI. Not that, that is the end all be all of facts of course.
Mushroom021
Member
Actually they have. Not directly of course, but what he says lines up pretty much directly with what everyone else has said.
GlamFM
Banned
It´s been confirmed by soooooo many sources since Kotaku broke the story almost 2 weeks ago.
It´s happening.
100%
Obliterator
Member
They have stated a release time frame, specs, software support list, and price point? Please point me to said publication.
GlamFM
Banned
The know ran a story almost 1 week ago with almost the exact same information.
So the 2xGPU , new cpu, ect. Confirmed 100%? 110%?
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I wonder if it will release along with, or just before, PSVR?
Edit: Although it will be weird to have a good idea of release date but no firm details of specs.
Edit: Although it will be weird to have a good idea of release date but no firm details of specs.
Marty Chinn
Member
Do you have evidence of a track record of the WSJ posting rumors that turned out not to be true?
Live Free or Die
Banned
HERE WE GO!
GlamFM
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f1xmoz99tU
There you go.
Now clue, but there will be a new PS4 and it´s gonna be more powerful.
Hexa
Member
I really don't think PS4K is good branding. If they're really moving to the iterative model, what they should just go all in and do is something like:
PS4 is $300.
PS5 available this holiday for $500.
PS5 is completely backwards compatible with PS4 of course.
All games released within three years after the release of the PS5 will also be required to be released on PS4. Hence, a solid 6 years of support for PS4, a standard console cycle. Also constant transition in constant space so always evolving technology.
Repeat.
So have life cycle like this:
2013: PS4 support begins.
2016: PS4 is $300. PS5 launches at $500.
2019: PS4 is $200. PS4 required support ends. PS5 is $300. PS6 launches at $500.
And so on.
PS4 is $300.
PS5 available this holiday for $500.
PS5 is completely backwards compatible with PS4 of course.
All games released within three years after the release of the PS5 will also be required to be released on PS4. Hence, a solid 6 years of support for PS4, a standard console cycle. Also constant transition in constant space so always evolving technology.
Repeat.
So have life cycle like this:
2013: PS4 support begins.
2016: PS4 is $300. PS5 launches at $500.
2019: PS4 is $200. PS4 required support ends. PS5 is $300. PS6 launches at $500.
And so on.