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New Independence Day: Resurgence trailer out! Looks fantastic!

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davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
I think he looks lost in Suicide Squad. With this he would have been the one star.

i'm so glad he isnt in this movie because Jeff Goldblum fills that role. So much better.

I wouldnt mind if Will Smith comes back for the next one. they definitely left it open on that backstory timeline site.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
i'm so glad he isnt in this movie because Jeff Goldblum fills that role. So much better.

I wouldnt mind if Will Smith comes back for the next one. they definitely left it open on that backstory timeline site.

In what way did they leave it open in the timeline that Captain Hiller is probably alive? The prototype aerocraft exploded to a million pieces
 

Jonbo298

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Not sure about the Earth getting to grips with that technology and rebuilding in just twenty years.

In a realistic manner, it is possible. Look at how far technology has come in 20 years in real life as-is; it's significant. Reverse engineering the tech the aliens have is much more feasible in the 90s vs the 50s.

(ID4 spoilers below? 20 years already, c'mon)

Considering in the movie they mention having one of their ships since the infamous crash in the 50s in Area 51, but being stumped on it because it wasn't "alive" until the aliens arrived, it ended a huge bottleneck in learning their tech. Goldblum's character stumbling on their secret signal before chaos began could also have helped overcome other barriers in being able to reverse engineer the tech.
 

Mr Swine

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In a realistic manner, it is possible. Look at how far technology has come in 20 years in real life as-is; it's significant. Reverse engineering the tech the aliens have is much more feasible in the 90s vs the 50s.

(ID4 spoilers below? 20 years already, c'mon)

Considering in the movie they mention having one of their ships since the infamous crash in the 50s in Area 51, but being stumped on it because it wasn't "alive" until the aliens arrived, it ended a huge bottleneck in learning their tech. Goldblum's character stumbling on their secret signal before chaos began could also have helped overcome other barriers in being able to reverse engineer the tech.


They also have the downed City Destroyers in Africa and under the ocean that probably has some advanced tech left intact
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
In what way did they leave it open in the timeline that Captain Hiller is probably alive? The prototype aerocraft exploded to a million pieces

well, #1 they didnt find his body. movie logic dictates no dead body = not dead

#2, it was "experimental alien tech" so who knows what that means -- he could have transported to a dimensional vortex and then pops out later. or maybe he becomes superman or some shit because he's exposed to radioactive goo.
 

Mr Swine

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well, #1 they didnt find his body. movie logic dictates no dead body = not dead

#2, it was "experimental alien tech" so who knows what that means -- he could have transported to a dimensional vortex and then pops out later. or maybe he becomes superman or some shit because he's exposed to radioactive goo.


Or he just got vaporized lol :p if the movie is a success I think he will gladly come back to reprise his role
 
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Are they dropping the burj khalifa on London?

Now that's kind of apocryphal if you think about it, there's no reason any of the buildings erected on the last decade should exists as they are on this universe.
 
they should have all had laser turrets instead of windows

I'm just thinking: would there really be a gigantic luxury building in Dubai that looks just like that in a world where the big world capitals were destroyed? We know there are no famous skylines in this world for obvious reasons, but why would we in movie universe build the same things we did in our world?

I would actually find it kind of neat if that wasn't the Burj Khalifa in name, but just design (so lets say the architect survived 1996) and it was built elsewhere.
 

Sephzilla

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I'm just thinking: would there really be a gigantic luxury building in the middle Dubai in a world where the big world capitals were destroyed? We know there are no famous skylines in this world for obvious reasons, but why would we in movie universe build the same things we did in our world?

I would actually find it kind of neat if that wasn't the Burj Khalifa in name, but just design (so lets say the architect survived 1996) and it was built elsewhere.

Money and most of the alien tech probably didn't trickle down to a common home level
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
I'm just thinking: would there really be a gigantic luxury building in Dubai that looks just like that in a world where the big world capitals were destroyed?

you're talking about Dubai. They had like 3 skyscrapers light on fire this past year and then they announced they were going to build another one.

and that's the real world.

We know there are no famous skylines in this world for obvious reasons, but why would we in movie universe build the same things we did in our world?

I would actually find it kind of neat if that wasn't the Burj Khalifa in name, but just design (so lets say the architect survived 1996) and it was built elsewhere.

you could also assume that in the movie they loaded those buildings full of military contractors, not amusement park financial planners
 

jackdoe

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This is definitely going to be stupidly fun. And I am definitely going to have to re-watch ID4 before watching this.

But jesus christ at it being 20 years since the original.
 
Money and most of the alien tech probably didn't trickle down to a common home level

I'm not saying that the buildings should have alien tech. Just that I'm wondering why any big projects that were created in our world after 2000 would necessarily exist here. This is a world where New York burned to the ground with the twin towers still standing.

you're talking about Dubai. They had like 3 skyscrapers light on fire this past year and then they announced they were going to build another one.

and that's the real world.
you could also assume that in the movie they loaded those buildings full of military contractors, not amusement park financial planners

It kinda sounds like I'm saying that they wouldn't built it because it could be a liability, but all I'm saying is that the world seems to be so different in that universe that I would expect them to have their own recent landmarks since so many pieces have to be in place for history to go as planned. But yeah nothing says that the Burj Khalifa would not exists, in the other hand American buildings would for certain look more different imo.
 
i was expecting this to look really shitty but i might wanna see this. goldblum sold me

I'm not saying that the buildings should have alien tech. Just that I'm wondering why any big projects that were created in our world after 2000 would necessarily exists here. This is a world where New York burned to the ground with the twin towers still standing.

also: is this really happening or am I on an alien planet ;)
 

Cagey

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I'm not saying that the buildings should have alien tech. Just that I'm wondering why any big projects that were created in our world after 2000 would necessarily exist here. This is a world where New York burned to the ground with the twin towers still standing.

London was rebuilt entirely to resemble exactly what it does today in only 20 years time following a massive worldwide war, as if it never burnt to the ground in a heap with millions dying in the first place.

There's a ship so big it spans the Atlantic Ocean and we're presumably going to shoot that son of a bitch out of the sky, but it will somehow crash land and not cause a catastrophic tidal wave and then dust blots the sun Ice Age kind of doomsday.

Suspend your belief, bro.
 

Elitist1945

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That just looks fucking fantastic. Goldblum flying away from Dubai falling ontop of London? Yup, its an Emmerich film alright.
 

Sephzilla

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I'm not saying that the buildings should have alien tech. Just that I'm wondering why any big projects that were created in our world after 2000 would necessarily exist here. This is a world where New York burned to the ground with the twin towers still standing.

Not trying to sound like a dick with this but I think you're overthinking a movie about space aliens that laser beam world monuments and are defeated by Apple viruses and America
 
Not trying to sound like a dick with this but I think you're overthinking a movie about space aliens that laser beam world monuments and are defeated by Apple viruses and America

also they had flags behind the fighter jets. i guess for kicks or something but i would say thats an unpractical military decision.
 
Hey I already suspended it, now we know London wasn't entirely hit in 96, that I believe. I can also buy a white house that looks just the same if they want to have one and the Burj Khalifa. What I'm wondering is if they did anything with the potential new buildings, because those should be fun to design.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
I mean, yeah, maybe a replica of the BK was built near london, cause I can't figure out any regular bullshit kind of way for that building to survive intact, the transit from Dubai to England. It's falling down in pristine condition! That's WAY beyond a regular bullshit kind of answer.
 

Aggelos

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David Arnold, aliens and a full orchestra invade the Royal Albert Hall on September 22 2016
ID4 will have both its twentieth anniversary and premiere at a special live-orchestral screening performance at the Royal Albert Hall on 22 September 2016. The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by the original orchestrator Nicholas Dodd, will perform the score live as the film is projected and the film's composer, David Arnold, will give a pre-film talk at the event about his work in scoring for film and television.

As a special treat for fans, this one-off, 20th anniversary event will also include a unique pre-show talk from composer David Arnold, discussing his work scoring Independence Day, Sherlock and five Bond films – as well as the closing ceremony of the 2012 Olympics – before a live orchestra takes to the stage to accompany the movie in full.

http://www.royalalberthall.com/abou...rchestra-blasting-into-the-royal-albert-hall/
 
Trailer does nothing for me.

Just noisy CGI spectacle without anything to back it up. I'd watch it for Goldblum, but they went with the awful Liam Hemsworth as, what looks like, the Will Smith type role. Which, imho, is a travesty.

Better films are coming this summer, I'll check out those instead.
 

cdyhybrid

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This looks like some quality mindless popcorn cinema. No Will Smith is a tragedy though.

This is probably the closest I'll ever get to an XCOM movie.
 

Aggelos

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The fact he isn't scoring the sequel is a travesty.

The travesty happened back then with Emmerich's "The Patriot" movie. Composer David Arnold and Emmerich parted ways back then. I don't see how they could call him back for the sequel....
 
This is going to be great. Roland makes the best action flicks. I just rewatched stargate the other day, was still corny but very watchable. Classic emmerich
 

The Cowboy

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When this was 1st announced it was a hell no, after all the trailers its a complete OHH HELL YES!!!.

I don't usually pay for IMAX, but I'm totally going to watch this in IMAX.
 
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