I'm playing through all of the Metroid games (some for the first time) and so far, I've enjoyed all of them. I haven't started up Super or Metroid 2 yet. I think it's safe to say that, while great, Metroid Prime 2 is the weakest of the mainline Prime games, and we all know about Other M. So this got me thinking. What's the worst of the 2D games? I'm curious to hear some opinions.
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What is the worst 2D Metroid game?
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MetroidPrimeRib
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The first. Not bad but far outclassed.
Team Alucard
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Other M is basically a 2D game with a 3D aesthetic, so that.
rootbeerafloat
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Fusion
I'd say the first Metroid is the worst because it lacks polish, followed by Metroid 2, which is far more polished but dying for a remake with a map and some color.
I'm not saying Metroid 1 is bad, it's just NES hard. It reminds me a lot of Zelda 1 in that regard, the player spends a lot of time not knowing what they're supposed to be doing because most environments look similar and there's very little direction given from the game itself.
I'm not saying Metroid 1 is bad, it's just NES hard. It reminds me a lot of Zelda 1 in that regard, the player spends a lot of time not knowing what they're supposed to be doing because most environments look similar and there's very little direction given from the game itself.
chaosblade
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I've only played Super and Zero Mission so I don't know if I can really speak for 2D Metroid.
But I certainly disagree with the bolded (Hunters is a thing, and I love Prime 2).
I've always heard good things about Prime Pinball, actually.
TheDinoman
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Metroid NES, definitely. Super, Fusion, and Zero Mission are all great. I can appreciate Metroid NES for what it's done, but it's just far too archaic and difficult for me to enjoy today.
Played through it on my 3DS, and I gotta disagree.
Metroid 2 is somewhere in between, me thinks. It's not as refined as much as something like Super Metroid but it has aged much more gracefully than the original, and is still very playable by today's standards. It's not quite as hard as the original Metroid but it's a bit more difficult than the following games, so I think it does a decent job at being challenging but not too frustrating. It has a really chilling atmosphere and actually going against the Metroids is far more terrifying than in all the other games I've played in the series.
Played through it on my 3DS, and I gotta disagree.
Metroid 2 is somewhere in between, me thinks. It's not as refined as much as something like Super Metroid but it has aged much more gracefully than the original, and is still very playable by today's standards. It's not quite as hard as the original Metroid but it's a bit more difficult than the following games, so I think it does a decent job at being challenging but not too frustrating. It has a really chilling atmosphere and actually going against the Metroids is far more terrifying than in all the other games I've played in the series.
Gonna be honest, I totally forgot Zero Mission and Hunters existed. Added to the backlog!
C.Olimar788
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Metroid 1 and 2 haven't aged well at all, so them. 1 is worst I suppose. Feels a bit unfair to compare them, though, considering the time periods and all.
Fusion > Zero Mission > Super > 2 > 1
Also, fwiw, Prime > Echoes > Corruption > Hunters
Fusion > Zero Mission > Super > 2 > 1
Also, fwiw, Prime > Echoes > Corruption > Hunters
and Prime > Fusion > Echoes > Zero Mission > Super > Corruption > 2 > Hunters > 1
Super Metroid has the wonkiest movement controls and combat mechanics
Zero Mission has the ugliest graphics
Fusion has worst writing
Metroid II has the least sequence breaking
NES Metroid has the most annoying save system
Overall NES Metroid is my favorite and Super Metroid my least favorite but they are all fantastic
Zero Mission has the ugliest graphics
Fusion has worst writing
Metroid II has the least sequence breaking
NES Metroid has the most annoying save system
Overall NES Metroid is my favorite and Super Metroid my least favorite but they are all fantastic
Worldshaker
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Metroid 2 for sure. Good game, but it has to be the worst for me personally.
Yo, what? That game looks great!
Pamplemousse
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Metroid II has better graphics than Zero Mission?
I'd say Metroid II. It's aged poorly, even worse than the first game imo. The original is still playable for me.
Hayama Akito
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There is no bad 2D Metroid for me at least. 2 is maybe the less interesting for me, but fuck off 1 haters, for someone who loves old dungeon crawlers take a notebook and draw Metroid maps are still awesome for me.
User 73706
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the hell?
Fahzgoolin
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You are an anus
I prefer how Super looks. Zero Mission looks great, but it looks really clean...for lack of a better word. Super Metroid had a more gritty, alien-esque look going for it which did wonders for the atmosphere. If anything I'd say my issue with Zero Mission is that it isn't ugly enough.
At this point, it's probably the original, since time has made it more and more a product of its time and limitations. Hip Tanaka's soundtrack for the game is still a damn treasure, though.
With Zero Mission coming before, it makes sense for Zebes to be a bit more lively than it is in Super, especially with how everything goes down at the end of the game that ruins a big chunk of the planet, between the destruction of Tourian and the Pirate Ship becoming, well, Wrecked Ship.
With Zero Mission coming before, it makes sense for Zebes to be a bit more lively than it is in Super, especially with how everything goes down at the end of the game that ruins a big chunk of the planet, between the destruction of Tourian and the Pirate Ship becoming, well, Wrecked Ship.
transience
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ZM and Super are definitely the best, and Fusion has an appeal for the right person. m1/2 are pretty clearly the weak links though I could see someone liking 1 for its openness, especially if they played it back in the 80s. game was pretty innovative for its day but doesn't really hold up at all to modern audiences.
Why would you do that?
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IMO from best to worst:
Metroid II
- I love it because of the way it gently guides you along, and you don't even need a map. Even first playing it in 2003, I thought it aged very, very well.
Metroid Fusion
Super Metroid
- I like it, but I'm not a big fan.
Metroid: Zero Mission
- This game is fun and I like it, but IMO it's too fast paced and has a very disappointing, anti-climactic ending.
Metroid
- Dated and antiquated. Not very fun to control, not very fun to start (I mean, only 30 health?) none of the modern luxuries that make the future games fun, and just all around disappointing when I first tried playing it in 2003 or so.
Metroid II
- I love it because of the way it gently guides you along, and you don't even need a map. Even first playing it in 2003, I thought it aged very, very well.
Metroid Fusion
Super Metroid
- I like it, but I'm not a big fan.
Metroid: Zero Mission
- This game is fun and I like it, but IMO it's too fast paced and has a very disappointing, anti-climactic ending.
Metroid
- Dated and antiquated. Not very fun to control, not very fun to start (I mean, only 30 health?) none of the modern luxuries that make the future games fun, and just all around disappointing when I first tried playing it in 2003 or so.
Green Mamba
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Fusion is the only one that forces you to sit through a shit ton of text throughout the entire game, so that one.
VendettaRed07
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The Fusion/Zero mission answers here are unbelievable.
Its obviously Metriod II. Which isn't a bad game, but clearly the weakest of the bunch.
Its obviously Metriod II. Which isn't a bad game, but clearly the weakest of the bunch.
Danny Dudekisser
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The original hasn't aged well. It is not fun. Metroid II is pretty awful, too, largely because the GB's hardware was so limiting. Although... the original Metroid was salvaged in the excellent Zero Mission; I'm not sure that anything short of a complete re-do could make Metroid II's design good.
beelzebozo
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metroid 2 has never appealed to me, largely because the screen jumping around constantly because of samus's size, plus the fidelity of the graphics, which is predictably heinous. i appreciate how influential it was on future games, but i would rather hear someone talk about it than play it.
the original, on the other hand, is super badass. fighting and besting mother brain after slogging through the deadly cheerios and shrinky plasma walls feels as awesome in 2016 as it did in 1989.
the original, on the other hand, is super badass. fighting and besting mother brain after slogging through the deadly cheerios and shrinky plasma walls feels as awesome in 2016 as it did in 1989.
nkarafo
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I disagree. I prefer Metroid 2 to both of those. Much more atmospheric IMO. And i loved the Metroid hunting aspect. Oh and don't forget the mutations.
So maybe it's not as "clear" as you thought.
I dislike Zero Mission the most. I'm not a huge fan, I've only played the original, a little bit of Super, and Zero Mission, and the reason why I dislike Zero Mission the most is because of the hand holding. When I play an Action-Platformer like Castlevania and Metroid one of the things that's makes those two franchises great is the exploration and you definitely can explore, knowing where to go isn't really that fun when exploration is a key aspect to me.
The game lays the ground work for future games but definitely has a lot of problems. Take the spiderball. Sounds like a neat powerup but in practise it's incredibly boring to use since the most of the time its just holding a direction while moving along a wall.
Of all the 2D Metroid games, it really has the least to offer. It doesn't have the novelty factor of Metroid I and in fact eschews what made that game great for the half-baked Metroid hunting idea. Although Metroid significantly changed for the future due the developers working around the limitations of the system, the game itself is still ultimately weaker for it. Even arguably the best part of the game, the soundtrack is mangled by the Gameboy's shit sound and speakers.
That said, the spring ball was ahead of its time and oddly ignored for far too long.
You can skip all those Chozo Statues (well except the first one IIRC) and forge your own path. That's why Zero Mission is great, the game offers so many ways to play through the game in contrast to how stifling Fusion is with Adam and story based events.
Mechanized
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Metroid 1. No map.
Stone Ocean
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Definitely 2. The cramped graphics and gameboy limitations don't do the series any favors.
MPT adding in the Spring Ball retroactively to Prime 1 and 2 was seriously the best thing.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
I know I'm gonna get a lot of slack for this ...
But Fusion just never did it for me
The controls were great ...
But it was the setting and atmosphere that were very un-Metroid-like and ruined the experience for me
But Fusion just never did it for me
The controls were great ...
But it was the setting and atmosphere that were very un-Metroid-like and ruined the experience for me
Oh, I didn't know that I always thought it was mandatory. Since it's been so long since I've played Zero Mission I will definitely see if I can find my copy and do another play through.
Sir_Crocodile
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Metroid 2 is the weakest. I struggled to find the area with the last few regular enemies back when it came out since it didn't have a map and the palette made things look so similar.
Tavernacle12
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Metroid II
I'm so lost in the game that even looking through guides to find a way to cheat my way back on track doesn't work. The lack of color makes it even harder to find your way around. By comparison I've gone back to the original NES game and had a good deal of fun. The controls are tight, combat is addictive, and you can at least get a good sense of where you've been and what new paths you could take. I actually enjoy it more than I do the original Zelda.
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Fusion, I think the game is somewhat bland, but I really don't have anything specific to hate on it for besides that.
I'm so lost in the game that even looking through guides to find a way to cheat my way back on track doesn't work. The lack of color makes it even harder to find your way around. By comparison I've gone back to the original NES game and had a good deal of fun. The controls are tight, combat is addictive, and you can at least get a good sense of where you've been and what new paths you could take. I actually enjoy it more than I do the original Zelda.
I'm honestly not a huge fan of Fusion, I think the game is somewhat bland, but I really don't have anything specific to hate on it for besides that.
You pretty much need to skip them on speed runs. The game allows for a lot of freedom as sequence breaking is built into its design, versus the more accidental instances of previous titles.
Stone Ocean
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It's not a pseudo-remake, it's a literal remake lol
It's basically a reimagining of the first game. The first two thirds are based on the original game, though it does have some very heavy deviations, while the last third is entirely brand new and helps tie the game in better with Super Metroid.
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