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valkyre

Member
That's really less of a controversial opinion and more being woefully narrow minded, tbh

Yeah perhaps hate was a harsh way to describe it. Perhaps lack of interest towards Nintendo games would be a better way to put it.

And yes I have tried them. I dislike the fact that they have taken a character (Mario) and plastered him in almost every damn videogame genre there is out there.

Maybe the kid in me is gone or something, but I just cant bear to play most of Nintendo's games. They are awesome for what they are, but it seems to me that they target a younger group than me.
 
Undertale is a 7/10 meme and hipster game that is overrated as hell.

Gears of War is a generic and boring brown shooter where i dont get the giant fandom for.

Final Fantasy 7 is overrated and FF9 is a far better game. Sephiroth is a crying mom child and last thing i would call cool.
 

Bakkus

Member
And yes I have tried them. I dislike the fact that they have taken a character (Mario) and plastered him in almost every damn videogame genre there is out there.
This is funny because the more common opinion by people disliking Nintendo games is that all the games are the same.
 
I really wish I could filter any NX thread in general. The speculation talks are simply annoying.

- What color?
- Let US decide of the NX controller
- Etc...

We know nothing of it but since it's Nintendo, any topic can be created and justified.

Never has so much been made of absolutely nothing.

The PS4 and Xone speculation was fun to read, but banging your head into a wall repeatedly is more fun than NX threads. Granted, that's true of a lot of the discussion surrounding Nintendo products, but still.
 
Yeah perhaps hate was a harsh way to describe it. Perhaps lack of interest towards Nintendo games would be a better way to put it.

And yes I have tried them. I dislike the fact that they have taken a character (Mario) and plastered him in almost every damn videogame genre there is out there.

Maybe the kid in me is gone or something, but I just cant bear to play most of Nintendo's games. They are awesome for what they are, but it seems to me that they target a younger group than me.

Sounds like you're a mature gamer for now. Don't worry, one day you'll be old enough to enjoy Nintendo games again.
 

Auctopus

Member
The way threads appear right before and just after an expensive and highly anticipated AAA game is released asking what the developer is going to do next are downright idiotic and impatient.
 

Manu

Member
The way threads appear right before and just after an expensive and highly anticipated AAA game is released asking what the developer is going to do next are downright idiotic and impatient.

On the same vein: Stop making threads with titles like "best examples of a character we thought dead coming back to save the day and then dying" five days after a new game has released. You're basically spoiling the fucking game.
 

RevenWolf

Member
Advent rising was a fantastic game that had a few bugs which bogged the experience in a few rare parts.

Aside from that, there aren't any games that come close to the cool shit that game let you pull off, especially by end game.

It's a shame that there will probably never be a sequel.
 

Terrorblot

Member
Server Browsers are overrated. Games like CS:GO thrive because it's actually easy to get into quick and painless vanilla competitive gameplay.
 
Nope.

I'd vastly prefer a naughty dog-made crash over a new TLOU or Uncharted
If you don't like their current output, fine, but you're never going to get a Crash game from them.

I mean, getting a new Crash game is unlikely enough on its own. But a Naughty Dog Crash game is literally never going to happen. That's not the company they are anymore, and they haven't been it for over a decade. A Crash game isn't where their strengths and talents are anymore, and asking for them to make one is ludicrously dumb.
 

GamerJM

Banned
If you don't like their current output, fine, but you're never going to get a Crash game from them.

I mean, getting a new Crash game is unlikely enough on its own. But a Naughty Dog Crash game is literally never going to happen. That's not the company they are anymore, and they haven't been it for over a decade. A Crash game isn't where their strengths and talents are anymore, and asking for them to make one is ludicrously dumb.

Why not? They still make mechanically solid games (or at least, I assume; I didn't really like the Uncharted games and I outright disliked TLOU but I think that comes from a place of genre distaste more than anything). I don't see why they couldn't have a smaller team develop a Crash game and then have a larger team develop something with more of a story-focus, and then put their writers on that game.

We don't know how talented they are at making platformers because they haven't made one in like a decade, and even then by that time their platformers weren't really platformers. There aren't very many studios right now that have proven to be skilled at making 3D platformers so I don't see why giving a chance to a studio that used to make them would do any harm.

The only people who complain about Sega's output now are people who only play or look at Sonic games.

Maybe I'd agree with you a few years ago, but what have they done recently other than Sonic? It seems lately that they're mostly just Yakuza, Project Diva, and Alien Isolation. That's a far cry from the variety of output they had in the DreamCast or Genesis days, and I like Yakuza and Project Diva.
 
Why not? They still make mechanically solid games (or at least, I assume; I didn't really like the Uncharted games and I outright disliked TLOU but I think that comes from a place of genre distaste more than anything). I don't see why they couldn't have a smaller team develop a Crash game and then have a larger team develop something with more of a story-focus, and then put their writers on that game.

We don't know how talented they are at making platformers because they haven't made one in like a decade, and even then by that time their platformers weren't really platformers. There aren't very many studios right now that have proven to be skilled at making 3D platformers so I don't see why giving a chance to a studio that used to make them would do any harm.
It's a company that now excels at things like art design, dialogue writing, animation, encounter design and story.

I don't see how they go from that to a classic 3D platformer, or why the hell anyone would want to.
 

GamerJM

Banned
It's a company that now excels at things like dialogue writing, animation, encounter design and story.

I don't see how they go from that to a classic 3D platformer, or why the hell anyone would want to.

Okay, but they also excel at design from a pure gameplay mechanics and level design perspective (or at least that's what I'm getting out of what people praise Uncharted and TLOU for; I don't think people just praise them for writing/dialogue/story/visuals). I don't see why those talents wouldn't transfer over to a 3D platformer. Furthermore they could just put the individuals behind the games' writing into another project if they just make Crash a kind of small pet project.
 
Okay, but they also excel at design from a pure gameplay mechanics and level design perspective (or at least that's what I'm getting out of what people praise Uncharted and TLOU for; I don't think people just praise them for writing/dialogue/story/visuals). I don't see why those talents wouldn't transfer over to a 3D platformer. Furthermore they could just put the individuals behind the games' writing into another project if they just make Crash a kind of small pet project.
Just because you're great at certain kinds of mechanics or level design doesn't mean you'll be good at other kinds. By that logic, anyone could make a 3D platformer, and we know that sure as hell ain't true given their rarity. They've built towards third-person shooters with stealth and exploration aspects over the past decade. How does that translate to 3D platforming?

If you look at their portfolio, you can see an evolution in their games, from Crash, to Jak to Uncharted to TLoU. I still don't see why they'd go back to Crash when someone with more platforming chops and more creative inclination towards it can do it.

I mean, the damn Naughty Dog people themselves have literally said what I'm saying when asked about returning to Crash:

No, I don't, because we've got an amazing team of people making some really expressive performances with our current stable of realistic characters. I mean, animating the stylised stuff is a lot of fun, but the stories that we're trying to tell right now are a little bit more grounded and a little bit more grown up than they were back in the Jak and Daxter days.
 

Windforce

Member
Yeah perhaps hate was a harsh way to describe it. Perhaps lack of interest towards Nintendo games would be a better way to put it.

And yes I have tried them. I dislike the fact that they have taken a character (Mario) and plastered him in almost every damn videogame genre there is out there.

Maybe the kid in me is gone or something, but I just cant bear to play most of Nintendo's games. They are awesome for what they are, but it seems to me that they target a younger group than me.

It's not that mcuh controversial, most of my friends are pissed off or fed up with Nintendo's shitshow post Super NES. You're fine, Nintendo indeed does mess up a lot.

My most recent controversial opinion is that Uncharted 4 is not that good - it is good but not Metacritic's "93 good". It has nice graphics, story and characters, I definitely feel like grabbing the platinum trophy for it. But the game drags on too much, too much traversing and climbing, it seems ND was afraid of being picked on for a short game and decided to extend it artificially and the most interesting set pieces are spread too afar. I'd rather have a shorter, super intense paced game (like Uncharted 2) than what it is now. Regardless, a good game.

Edit: I'd like to add that the problem with U4 for me was that it borrowed too much influence from TLOU and I didn't like TLOU. lol.
 

Melchiah

Member
My most recent controversial opinion is that Uncharted 4 is not that good - it is good but not Metacritic's "93 good". It has nice graphics, story and characters, I definitely feel like grabbing the platinum trophy for it. But the game drags on too much, too much traversing and climbing, it seems ND was afraid of being picked on for a short game and decided to extend it artificially. I'd rather have a super intense paced game than what it is now. Regardless, a good game.

I haven't completed the game yet, but the increased exploration is what I like the most about it so far. The predecessors had far too little of that in correlation to the amount of shooting, which I found boring.
 

labx

Banned
I think Resident Evil 5 is the best RE.

I only like Zelda 1 and 2.

Simon's quest is the best Castlevania.

Uncharted 4 and Dark Souls 3 disappoint me.
 

Crayon

Member
Spyro PS1 games>Crash PS1 games
Ratchet and Clank PS2 games>Jak and Daxter PS2 games

Easily. Crash was fun but paled next to SM64 which was within the same year time. Spyro, tho... that actually took a few swings at mario 64 and was worthy of comparison.

And all the ratchets where consistent, great fun. Where Jak 1 was consistently mediocre and Jak 2 was all over the map from bad to mediocre at best. I never even looked at 3, so bad was 2.
 
If you don't like their current output, fine, but you're never going to get a Crash game from them.

I mean, getting a new Crash game is unlikely enough on its own. But a Naughty Dog Crash game is literally never going to happen. That's not the company they are anymore, and they haven't been it for over a decade. A Crash game isn't where their strengths and talents are anymore, and asking for them to make one is ludicrously dumb.

They've moved on, as should you.

Good riddance, as I wasn't interested in ND's output before TLOU, which in turn lead me to play Uncharted series.

Yeah I know it'll never happen. But I wish for it to
 

sTiTcH AU

Member
I just finished Uncharted 4 and can not understand the review scores for it. Yes it is a good game but nowhere near 10/10. A solid 9 and even an 8 is acceptable. The story was ok, the combat wasn't excellent (so it was a good thing there wasn't much of it).

I will say though that towards the end of the game was done way better than Uncharted 2 and 3 where in those games waves and waves of enemies were just thrown at you, it was nice not to have to go through all that again lol.

Honestly Uncharted 3 was the best in the series and it feels there was just so much hype that no matter if the game was a complete turd the game still would be gotten 10's.
 

Popeye

Neo Member
I really don't get what's so great about Dark Souls, I find the gameplay mediocre.

Super Mario Sunshine is the best 3D Mario game and Wind Waker is the best Zelda game, period.

I don't like super difficult "hardcore" games, I prefer to play on easy mode rather than getting punished over and over.
 
I don't think Mario Galaxy is a great game. Actually I don't think it's even a good game since I wasn't able to finish it (or get that far into it). Between the linear level designs, the motion controls and the awful camera angels in some parts I just didn't find it to be a pleasant experience at all.
 

Crayon

Member
I just finished Uncharted 4 and can not understand the review scores for it. Yes it is a good game but nowhere near 10/10. A solid 9 and even an 8 is acceptable. The story was ok, the combat wasn't excellent (so it was a good thing there wasn't much of it).

I will say though that towards the end of the game was done way better than Uncharted 2 and 3 where in those games waves and waves of enemies were just thrown at you, it was nice not to have to go through all that again lol.

Honestly Uncharted 3 was the best in the series and it feels there was just so much hype that no matter if the game was a complete turd the game still would be gotten 10's.

I haven't played uncharted 4. Probably never will because I played uncharted 2 and I literally fell asleep. And then I had a boring dream.

Yeah so since we're here... Uncharted is boring. Same with gears of war. Gears was a little less boring but made up for that with embarrassing bro theme.

Yeah we used to have a game where you hid behind boxes it was called Rolling Thunder and it was alright. ALRIGHT. At least back then it was an attempt to add a strategic option to an established genre not an outright play to dumb shit down.

That felt good. I love this thread.
 
I got plenty.

- Skyward Sword is a dull, poorly designed mess that got a free pass due to being a Zelda game.

- Donkey Kong Country is a terrible platformer and was only a big hit due to a strong marketing campaign and impressive graphics for the time (but DKC2 is one of the best SNES games so it makes up for it).

- DmC: Devil May Cry (aka Devil May Cry: Devil May Cry) was only defended by critics and some gamers since they aren't good at hack and slash games that require skill or finesse.

- Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory is still the best stealth game of all time. Even better than MGS3.

- Mario Party gets a lot of undeserved hate (well, at least MP2-7).

- Classic Megaman is overrated. Megaman X and X4 were the high points of that series.

- Ocarina of Time is an amazing game for it's time but it's pretty underwhelming nowadays.

- Resident Evil 6 is an extremely fun game when you understand it's mechanics. That said, it is a very flawed title but it's not an outright bad game.

- Naughty Dog gets too many free passes for some of the stuff they do (F2P elements in $60 games, still not using dedicated servers, Duckman being a bad fit for an interactive medium).

- Every GTA game controls like shit. Even the recent ones feels incredibly dated and are just busy work.
 

Auctopus

Member
I played and loved the original Crash Bandicoot on PS1 when I was younger but not everybody cares about a remake as much as some people think. Watching decent threads and discussion being constantly derailed by some rabid Crash fan is so boring now.
 

Juanfp

Member
If you thought The Last Of Us had a deep storyline then you need to read a book.

Yeah I feel the same, I enjoyed and like the history a lot but is the same type of story that have been tell a lot of times. Maybe the first of this type in videogame, I think.
 

MoonFrog

Member
- Skyward Sword is a dull, poorly designed mess that got a free pass due to being a Zelda game.

I'm don't think this is controversial; it seems the majority of posts on the game I see are in this vein and largely go unchallenged too.

Unless the controversy is in the latter part of the sentence and you're contending that what I just said is not the case...

I guess perhaps Skyward Sword was better received among those not active in the Internet community? But I'm pretty sure on GAF it's as I say.

...

The game gets a lot of undeserved hate imo, with its blemishes crowding out the strength of its design. Second best 3D Zelda after OoT. I think that's a more controversial opinion here.
 

televator

Member
I prefer Sega Genesis' audio to SNES'. The geny got dat bass and much more dynamic range in tone. SNES sounds like the all the instruments are all set to the same volume.
 

Kindekuma

Banned
Well, I beat Uncharted 2 tonight (On PS3) for the first time.

There's a list I keep mentally of games that I've beaten that I know I'll never return to. That game made the list. The story, visuals, platforming and puzzle solving aspect of the game are all there (although I wanted to see more of Sully, he's one of my favorite characters). The combat is so goddamn bad. Having enjoyed the Last of Us's combat immensely, I figured the same kind of quality was in UC2, the "masterpiece" of the series. But my expectations were betrayed. Enemy AI is wonky, stealth takedown mechanics and cover system is borderline broken, and adding waves after wave of bullet sponge enemies
the mutated guardians are the biggest offender
, and scrambling for ammo but dropping your weapon on accident in a mad dash for said ammo is--.

I have to stop.

Everything else is so well done in this game, the set pieces, visuals, music, character, story, platforming and puzzles, it's all there! It's so well polished. But the combat is so flaky, and ND puts you in so many combat situations over the course of the game I couldn't help but groan at every encounter.

I'm gonna play 3 next since I want to know what happens next but this better not be a slog of combat. But right now, if I want to return to UC2, I'll stick with YouTube.
 

LordRaptor

Member
Certain console only gamers refusal to acknowledge anything that isn't dual analogue in front of a TV as proper gaming is infuriating and tiresome
 

BigDes

Member
Well, I beat Uncharted 2 tonight (On PS3) for the first time.

There's a list I keep mentally of games that I've beaten that I know I'll never return to. That game made the list. The story, visuals, platforming and puzzle solving aspect of the game are all there (although I wanted to see more of Sully, he's one of my favorite characters). The combat is so goddamn bad. Having enjoyed the Last of Us's combat immensely, I figured the same kind of quality was in UC2, the "masterpiece" of the series. But my expectations were betrayed. Enemy AI is wonky, stealth takedown mechanics and cover system is borderline broken, and adding waves after wave of bullet sponge enemies
the mutated guardians are the biggest offender
, and scrambling for ammo but dropping your weapon on accident in a mad dash for said ammo is--.

I have to stop.

Everything else is so well done in this game, the set pieces, visuals, music, character, story, platforming and puzzles, it's all there! It's so well polished. But the combat is so flaky, and ND puts you in so many combat situations over the course of the game I couldn't help but groan at every encounter.

I'm gonna play 3 next since I want to know what happens next but this better not be a slog of combat. But right now, if I want to return to UC2, I'll stick with YouTube.

You're in for a treat
 
A Crash game made by Naughty Dog is the most idiotic thing to want in all of gaming.

A Crash game being made at all and being treated like some big announcement is also really stupid.
 

eXistor

Member
A Crash game made by Naughty Dog is the most idiotic thing to want in all of gaming.

A Crash game being made at all and being treated like some big announcement is also really stupid.

Agreed, I'll never understand why people want Crash back, it was always a C-grade series to me.
 
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