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finalflame

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I'm starting to feel like I'm not very good at offensive heroes. It kinda bums me out because I like Pharah and Tracer, and I like the idea of Genji, but I'm not consistently effective with any of them.

The only heroes I really feel comfortable on are Zarya, Junkrat, Torb, Roadhog and Zen.

We're opposites. We should play together.
 

Ranmo

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That feel when your damage dealers forget to deal damage and don't switch classes to improve their contribution. Feels real bad.

Seriously, last night I had the first pug game in over a week that actually helped change the entire team comp. We ended up winning at the last objective point on defense even though we were getting slammed all game.

The fact that I was surprised that I wasn't the only one to change heroes is something I'm not proud of.
 

Udder

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I'm burnt out on Overwatch...got about twenty hours out of it but i think i'll take a step back for a long while.
 

Lesath

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Can't remember the last time I survived using a justice rains from above D:
Keep making the mistake of trying to kill bastions with it..

Only times it's really worked for me is when the enemy team is bunched up, distracted by my teammates, and they don't know I'm there. Confusion is what buys you time.
 

partime

Member
Picked up a legendary skin for Torbjörn and decided to play him instead of my usuals.

You can rack up some mega kill streaks with him, geez. My first game had a 16 kill streak. There's a reason why I absolutely hated a correctly placed torrent!
My hatred turned to pure pleasure in less than a match.
 
I'm starting to feel like I'm not very good at offensive heroes. It kinda bums me out because I like Pharah and Tracer, and I like the idea of Genji, but I'm not consistently effective with any of them.

The only heroes I really feel comfortable on are Zarya, Junkrat, Torb, Roadhog and Zen.

I don't believe that anyone can be bad at playing S76
 
JUSTICE ---

Dead.

This is the story of my Pharah play as well. You know you are getting POTG if you hear the whole line.

I actually think I have as many successful but poorly executed Barrages (not enough people/too tanky) as I do failed ones (shot down in the middle). Also, my best Barrage POTG ends with me getting shot down by a turret I failed to notice. Ooops.
 

matmanx1

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Can't remember the last time I survived using a justice rains from above D:
Keep making the mistake of trying to kill bastions with it..

You have to be picky about when to use that ult. I do well with it but I am conservative about using it, almost to a fault. I tend to wait for moments of mass confusion or synergy with other teammates ults. Basically, you don't want to be the target. Let someone else on your team be that.

It also helps to not get max height. It's better to be as low as possible but not right on the ground. One character's worth of height is probably sufficient. Your angle of attack is worse but if you can take out a player or two, make the enemy team scatter and live through it then you've done something positive.

Pharah, btw, is my favorite of the situational dps characters. I really enjoy her playstyle in certain circumstances.
 
I really need to play with gaffers. Getting tired of some of the pugs i get.

Had a group where two guys spent the whole game trying to get the smooth as silk achievement.
 
Picked up a legendary skin for Torbjörn and decided to play him instead of my usuals.

You can rack up some mega kill streaks with him, geez. My first game had a 16 kill streak. There's a reason why I absolutely hated a correctly placed torrent!
My hatred turned to pure pleasure in less than a match.
Welcome to the club.

Make sure to pick up your salt containers after you finish registering. You'll need them to collect all the salt that will rain down on your head.
 

Brandwin

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I'm starting to feel like I'm not very good at offensive heroes. It kinda bums me out because I like Pharah and Tracer, and I like the idea of Genji, but I'm not consistently effective with any of them.

The only heroes I really feel comfortable on are Zarya, Junkrat, Torb, Roadhog and Zen.

That's where I am at. I try with Offensive heroes, but I am just not very good with them

Mei, Junkrat, Torbjon, Reinhardt, Roadhog,D.Va, Winston and Mercy... the other heroes, not so much right now. I keep trying though, eventually some of the other ones should click for me as well.
 
Welcome to the club.

Make sure to pick up your salt containers after you finish registering. You'll need them to collect all the salt that will rain down on your head.

It's okay. Soon you'll get the nerf bat, too. Enjoy your 30m instead of 40m, requiring you to put it in the open for literally full coverage of an entire area and making it able to be properly countered.
 
Picked up a legendary skin for Torbjörn and decided to play him instead of my usuals.

You can rack up some mega kill streaks with him, geez. My first game had a 16 kill streak. There's a reason why I absolutely hated a correctly placed torrent!
My hatred turned to pure pleasure in less than a match.

It is surprising easy in pub games, but good luck winning any card. No matter how well you do, nobody is voting for Torbay :p
 
I'm liking the Random Hero/ No Switching mode for this week. Even when I get a character I'm bad at or the team comp is strange it's still kind of fun. It really helpful at learning to adapt and try new things.
 
It's okay. Soon you'll get the nerf bat, too. Enjoy your 30m instead of 40m, requiring you to put it in the open for literally full coverage of an entire area and making it able to be properly countered.
There's no way they nerf one of the weakest characters in the game.

Git gud.

Also, only a moron Torb tries to get full coverage instead of a focused area.
 

Fugu

Member
Is such a thing even possible? I guess it is.
Never fear -- I always have a screenshot.
sutCGOp.jpg
 

matmanx1

Member
For some of you out there who are playing a lot of solo que games, here's something that has helped my winning percentage the last couple of nights.

It's rare that you will run into an enemy team of solo players that outclasses your team of solo players in every way. Usually it is just going to be one or two enemy players that are doing well and pulling more weight for that team. Once your team starts getting smacked around a little bit, identify who is doing it and switch your hero to the counter character of whoever is doing the smacking.

Example: Numbani defense two nights ago. We started with a Torb (I was the Torb) and a Bastion. The other team had a Genji that was wrecking our team's life so I switched to Pharah. We stopped the payload and ended up winning and I made life miserable for that Genji as much as I could.

Also had a similar situation last night where a Soldier 76 and Widow were harassing us on Attack on Numbani and I switched to Winston to harass them. I got eaten by a Bastion but I also killed the 76 and chased the Widowmaker away so that we could get the payload moving again.

In a perfect world the other team would have switched to someone who counters whoever I switched to but they often don't. The point being playing only 1 hero to the exclusion of everyone else is often a detriment to your team, especially in solo play where communication and coordination may be poor.
 
Never fear -- I always have a screenshot.
sutCGOp.jpg

I don't want to rain on your peraide but I've had a gold for eliminations with only 3 kills.
It happens if your loseing and the rest of your team decided to rage quit before the end of the game.

3k is still decent damage though so maybe not.
 
For some of you out there who are playing a lot of solo que games, here's something that has helped my winning percentage the last couple of nights.

It's rare that you will run into an enemy team of solo players that outclasses your team of solo players in every way. Usually it is just going to be one or two enemy players that are doing well and pulling more weight for that team. Once your team starts getting smacked around a little bit, identify who is doing it and switch your hero to the counter character of whoever is doing the smacking.

Example: Numbani defense two nights ago. We started with a Torb (I was the Torb) and a Bastion. The other team had a Genji that was wrecking our team's life so I switched to Pharah. We stopped the payload and ended up winning and I made life miserable for that Genji as much as I could.

Also had a similar situation last night where a Soldier 76 and Widow were harassing us on Attack on Numbani and I switched to Winston to harass them. I got eaten by a Bastion but I also killed the 76 and chased the Widowmaker away so that we could get the payload moving again.

In a perfect world the other team would have switched to someone who counters whoever I switched to but they often don't. The point being playing only 1 hero to the exclusion of everyone else is often a detriment to your team, especially in solo play where communication and coordination may be poor.
Pretty easy way to identify: check who is on fire in the teams screen.

Then find them and slaughter them.

It's possible that's not the best person, but it's a decent guess.
 

Mupod

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when I play Pharah: enemy team is all using expensive headphones with positional audio, and mongoose-like reflexes that allow them to instantly whip around as a team and shut me down before Pharah even gets the 'Rains' part out.

when the other side plays Pharah: POTG camera shows me turning around and getting her to 10% hp, but she fired on me first so I died. Rest of the team is in full tunnel vision mode and gets blown up from behind.

For some of you out there who are playing a lot of solo que games, here's something that has helped my winning percentage the last couple of nights.

It's rare that you will run into an enemy team of solo players that outclasses your team of solo players in every way. Usually it is just going to be one or two enemy players that are doing well and pulling more weight for that team. Once your team starts getting smacked around a little bit, identify who is doing it and switch your hero to the counter character of whoever is doing the smacking.

Example: Numbani defense two nights ago. We started with a Torb (I was the Torb) and a Bastion. The other team had a Genji that was wrecking our team's life so I switched to Pharah. We stopped the payload and ended up winning and I made life miserable for that Genji as much as I could.

Also had a similar situation last night where a Soldier 76 and Widow were harassing us on Attack on Numbani and I switched to Winston to harass them. I got eaten by a Bastion but I also killed the 76 and chased the Widowmaker away so that we could get the payload moving again.

In a perfect world the other team would have switched to someone who counters whoever I switched to but they often don't. The point being playing only 1 hero to the exclusion of everyone else is often a detriment to your team, especially in solo play where communication and coordination may be poor.

The game actually facilitates this directly with the 'fire' system, if someone is on fire you need to deal with them. Problem is most of the time in solo queue I'm filling a required role because everyone else instantly locked in Reaper, Hanzo, Genji and Widowmaker. So I can't just swap over to Winston or McCree to deal with a Genji repeatedly killing me on a support.
 
I don't want to rain on your peraide but I've had a gold for eliminations with only 3 kills.
It happens if your loseing and the rest of your team decided to rage quit before the end of the game.

3k is still decent damage though so maybe not.

Yeah, when I first heard that story I thought their team must have been astoundingly bad, but 3k damage is decent for most heroes and absolutely bonkers for Mercy. Though less than 2k healing may have something to do with it!
 

Ketch

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I could totally see torb being OP and widow not on console


Does ps4 not support Kb+m? I thought the PS3 did, if I had that version I would totally play with kb+m to own people.
 
Yeah, when I first heard that story I thought their team must have been astoundingly bad, but 3k damage is decent for most heroes and absolutely bonkers for Mercy. Though less than 2k healing may have something to do with it!

I've played about 20ish game with her and I don't think I've ever even fired her pistol so the 2.8 kill average is surprising as well.
Just different styles I guess.
 

Raven117

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For some of you out there who are playing a lot of solo que games, here's something that has helped my winning percentage the last couple of nights.

It's rare that you will run into an enemy team of solo players that outclasses your team of solo players in every way. Usually it is just going to be one or two enemy players that are doing well and pulling more weight for that team. Once your team starts getting smacked around a little bit, identify who is doing it and switch your hero to the counter character of whoever is doing the smacking.

Example: Numbani defense two nights ago. We started with a Torb (I was the Torb) and a Bastion. The other team had a Genji that was wrecking our team's life so I switched to Pharah. We stopped the payload and ended up winning and I made life miserable for that Genji as much as I could.

Also had a similar situation last night where a Soldier 76 and Widow were harassing us on Attack on Numbani and I switched to Winston to harass them. I got eaten by a Bastion but I also killed the 76 and chased the Widowmaker away so that we could get the payload moving again.

In a perfect world the other team would have switched to someone who counters whoever I switched to but they often don't. The point being playing only 1 hero to the exclusion of everyone else is often a detriment to your team, especially in solo play where communication and coordination may be poor.

Though this is good advice and absolutely what a reasonable person should do, it can get very irritating when a team...knowing they are getting chewed up...refuses to switch things up, make pushes...etc...
 
when I play Pharah: enemy team is all using expensive headphones with positional audio, and mongoose-like reflexes that allow them to instantly whip around as a team and shut me down before Pharah even gets the 'Rains' part out.

when the other side plays Pharah: POTG camera shows me turning around and getting her to 10% hp, but she fired on me first so I died. Rest of the team is in full tunnel vision mode and gets blown up from behind..

Barrage seems like it's balanced for another game. Devastating but easily shut down. A lot of the other ults are no-risk free kills. I don't get the design decision.
 

eek5

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For some of you out there who are playing a lot of solo que games, here's something that has helped my winning percentage the last couple of nights.

It's rare that you will run into an enemy team of solo players that outclasses your team of solo players in every way. Usually it is just going to be one or two enemy players that are doing well and pulling more weight for that team. Once your team starts getting smacked around a little bit, identify who is doing it and switch your hero to the counter character of whoever is doing the smacking.

Example: Numbani defense two nights ago. We started with a Torb (I was the Torb) and a Bastion. The other team had a Genji that was wrecking our team's life so I switched to Pharah. We stopped the payload and ended up winning and I made life miserable for that Genji as much as I could.

Also had a similar situation last night where a Soldier 76 and Widow were harassing us on Attack on Numbani and I switched to Winston to harass them. I got eaten by a Bastion but I also killed the 76 and chased the Widowmaker away so that we could get the payload moving again.

In a perfect world the other team would have switched to someone who counters whoever I switched to but they often don't. The point being playing only 1 hero to the exclusion of everyone else is often a detriment to your team, especially in solo play where communication and coordination may be poor.

Haha.. my problem is that I'm not good enough to counter those players ;_;

I don't believe that anyone can be bad at playing S76

You should spectate me. I'm average at best.
 

Fugu

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I don't want to rain on your peraide but I've had a gold for eliminations with only 3 kills.
It happens if your loseing and the rest of your team decided to rage quit before the end of the game.

3k is still decent damage though so maybe not.
They stuck around. We lost in overtime.
 
My 1-7 Win Loss record with him begs to differ. Of course, the fact is usually I play him when my team sucks and I need solo capabilities to accomplish anything.

My win record with him is 38% but he's got my highest KD ratio.... Other than Torbs Ofcourse.
Make of that what you will...
 
Barrage seems like it's balanced for another game. Devastating but easily shut down. A lot of the other ults are no-risk free kills. I don't get the design decision.
What ult is no-risk or free kills?

The closest I can think of is Soldier's and even that one gets shut down pretty routinely now.
 

Fugu

Member
Yeah, when I first heard that story I thought their team must have been astoundingly bad, but 3k damage is decent for most heroes and absolutely bonkers for Mercy. Though less than 2k healing may have something to do with it!
I couldn't heal them because they were too busy throwing themselves at the point and being out of position.

I can do more damage with Mercy than most bad players can with... just about anyone, and I play Mercy a lot so for the sake of the team and my sanity I don't save players from doing dumb stuff.

This game just had a lot of players doing dumb stuff.

EDIT: You may actually notice that 3k is not my record and I've actually gotten up to 4.5k and I did about 7k healing in the same game. Mercy is capable of doing fairly decent damage without sacrificing her healing abilities and it makes her much more manageable with... less qualified teammates. You can kill or at least force most heroes to escape in 1v1 situations if you're paying attention.
 
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