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E3 has always been a very important event for TEAM XBOX. Over the years, we’ve used our E3 briefing to announce blockbuster games from franchises like Halo and Gears of War, Xbox Live platform features, including Xbox One Backward Compatibility and the New Xbox One Experience, and much more.

Earlier today, at the Xbox E3 2016 Briefing, we continued to share our vision for the future of Xbox. We see a future full of choice, without being constrained by technical boundaries, devices people play on, or console generations.

The new gaming landscape is being driven by an unprecedented wave of innovation, transformation and creativity unlike any we’ve ever seen. What’s different this time is that you, the gamers, are the ones leading this shift with the way you play today. Many of us play games on more than one device – and that is fundamentally shifting the way the world thinks about gaming.

As this shift continues, we want to ensure that you have more freedom and opportunity to play the games you want, with the people you want, and on the devices you want. We see this not only as a gaming world where you can play without boundaries, but one that goes beyond generations.

At Xbox, we believe you should have a diverse and expansive library of games. That’s why, in addition to the many exciting games we announced today for Xbox One and Windows 10, we unveiled the new Xbox Play Anywhere program that will enable you to buy a game once and play it on both the Xbox One and your Windows 10 PC.

We believe in uniting gaming communities where you can play, compete and connect with friends, wherever they are. Today, we showed how Xbox Live is being made available for developers to use across Xbox, Windows 10, VR and mobile, as well as across other participating networks.

We believe in Gaming for Everyone, and we feel strongly that all gamers deserve to be welcomed, respected and supported. With that as one of our driving forces, today we announced new Xbox Live features to help you build out your gaming network and play your way.

We believe in hardware innovation without sacrificing compatibility. The first step on that journey of innovation was today’s announcement of the Xbox One S, the newest addition to the Xbox One family. We shared that our existing Xbox One games and accessories will continue to work with it.

But that is just the beginning.

We see exciting opportunities on the horizon to create new innovations that will benefit both gamers and game developers alike.

The next step-change for gamers and developers must deliver true 4K gaming and high-fidelity VR experiences to the console. To that end, we were happy to announce the next addition to the Xbox One family: Project Scorpio.

When it ships next year, Project Scorpio will be our most powerful console ever built, specifically to lead the industry into a future in which true 4K gaming and high-fidelity VR are the standard, not an exception.

Project Scorpio will be the first console with 6 teraflops of power, which will empower the world’s greatest game creators to fully embrace true 4K gaming without sacrificing quality, generate premier VR experiences, without sacrificing performance, and putting greater graphic fidelity in the hands of the world’s best game creators.

Best of all, Xbox One, Xbox One S and Project Scorpio will all be compatible. All Xbox One games and accessories will play on each device. It’s very important to us that no one gets left behind, which is a big part of why we view Project Scorpio as a new way of thinking about consoles and generations.

The reason that we announced Project Scorpio today is to give our developers and partners the ability to embrace its capability early, in order to start realizing their visions for the future and deliver even more great games for you.

Today marks the beginning of gaming beyond generations. It’s a future full of choice, and one in which we can all play together without boundaries.

 

[malfcn]

Phil is a good dude.

 

[bndadm]

I was probably foolish to doubt it, but hearing that Xbox One is compatible on Scorpio is a relief. Then I won't have to have the One taking up it's space.

Just, please, design an interface I can understand.

 

[BeforeU]

Xbox as a service.

They are simply creating a PC for your living room.

I can see them having Xbox OS on top of Windows 10 in couple of years. You can just build you own PC and install Xbox OS for free.

Sounds pretty fucking exciting.

 

[Toki767]

We believe in hardware innovation without sacrificing compatibility. The first step on that journey of innovation was today’s announcement of the Xbox One S, the newest addition to the Xbox One family. We shared that our existing Xbox One games and accessories will continue to work with it.

That line is so weird. Like we're supposed to think of the Xbox One S something that isn't a hardware revision?

 

[R3TRODYCE]

I wonder how much sacrifices will have to be made for it to hit 4K/60

 

[GHG]

That line is so weird. Like we're supposed to think of the Xbox One S something that isn't a hardware revision?

Well... Apple get away with it every year so why not?

 

[SparkTR]

Honestly is kind of cool how far they've come in regards to this. Even last year simultaneous releases for both Xbox and PC was kind of skeptically looked at on forums, people didn't really think it would be a thing for a LONG while. Now everything is cross platform. Seriously Gears 4, Forza, Scalebound all cross platform and running on PCs.

Nobody should ever have to bring out that massive list of broken Microsoft commitments to PC again. Now they just have to make the Windows Store worthwhile.

 

[Hitta93]

Going to be tough for Sony to counter this.

 

[rokkerkory]

Phil is so good. What a turn around in a few years from the clusterfuck that was the One's reveal.

Mattrick did so much harm.

 

[TheFurizzlyBear]

That line is so weird. Like we're supposed to think of the Xbox One S something that isn't a hardware revision?

Believe me, it's something the laymen need explained to them. People hear "new Xbox" and flip their lid thinking their shits useless. Hell we see it here on GAF...

 

[wesleyshark]

Xbox as a service.

They are simply creating a PC for your living room.

I can see them having Xbox OS on top of Windows 10 in couple of years. You can just build you own PC and install Xbox OS for free.

Sounds pretty fucking exciting.

That's pretty much their endgame. There will always be a box you can go buy, but if you want to build a pc and install the Xbox OS/overlay/app, you'll have the roster of games at your fingertips, with all the goodness that console owners have.

 

[bndadm]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

 

[Quasar]

Xbox as a service.

They are simply creating a PC for your living room.

I can see them having Xbox OS on top of Windows 10 in couple of years. You can just build you own PC and install Xbox OS for free.

Sounds pretty fucking exciting.

Maybe they can do what valve failed to do with steamboxes.

 

[diaspora]

Dynamic settings and the Xbox as a TV PC is imo pretty compelling.

 

[cleveridea]

This talk of buying game on xbox one and get it free on Windows 10, will that work with retail games?

With Quantum break you had to buy the digital edition on xbox one and got a code for windows 10. I believe they didnt lock the pc codes though and people sold them.

If retail games are included, what prevents people buying on xbox one, unlocking the windows 10 version and then returning/trading/selling their xbox one copy?

 

[SparkTR]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

Crackdown 3 was confirmed for PC. Everything will have Windows versions.

 

[wesleyshark]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

It's coming to PC as well

 

[Mingledorff]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

It was delayed but also announced today that it was Play Anywhere (cross-buy) with PC

edit: beaten

 

[harSon]

That line is so weird. Like we're supposed to think of the Xbox One S something that isn't a hardware revision?

They're trying to completely wash away the stink of the Mattrick years lmao

 

[SOR5]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

It is

 

[Noobcraft]

I wonder how much sacrifices will have to be made for it to hit 4K/60

It shouldn't have any problems pushing something of Forza 6 quality at 4k/60. Honestly I'd be happy with just 1080p/60 with the graphics/assets/IQ cranked up.

 

[wwm0nkey]

So with this philosophy then...wouldn't there be some expectation that Crackdown 3 would also be PC/Xbox One?

I was surprised not to see any mention of it this year.

It is coming, I think it is safe to say all games from here on out will be on Win10/XBox

 

[Griss]

That's a good, strong message, imo. After years in the wilderness starting with the Kinect fiasco, Xbox is well on the road to recovery.

 

[Cday]

In the future my Xbox will be a Windows 10 partition on my PC and my actual Xbox will be a useless lump. However, my Xbox is currently way ahead of my PC in this scenario.

 

[bndadm]

It is

Thank you!

I think this also does wonders for game preservation as well. With all these cross-play titles, there won't been need for emulation the console (for these games at least) years down the road. I hope more developers get on board with this.

 

[Raylan]

Going to be tough for Sony to counter this.

They don't have to "counter" this. They're going a different path. Sony doesn't make PC games etc.

 

[Beefy]

Going to be tough for Sony to counter this.

Well from the look of it (atm), Sony doesn't want to counter it. Both are doing their own thing.

 

[Mingledorff]

They don't have to "counter" this. They're going a different path. Sony doesn't make PC games etc.

I think it'll be difficult for them to counter Scorpio if they stick with what has currently leaked for Neo. Like, it'll be kinda embarrassing to announce it as a new upgrade that is inferior to the Scorpio.

But outside of that, they both look to be going separate ways

 

[Zedox]

This talk of buying game on xbox one and get it free on Windows 10, will that work with retail games?

With Quantum break you had to buy the digital edition on xbox one and got a code for windows 10. I believe they didnt lock the pc codes though and people sold them.

If retail games are included, what prevents people buying on xbox one, unlocking the windows 10 version and then returning/trading/selling their xbox one copy?

Retail games are not included. Digital only.
This is not like Quantum Break where you get a key. It will be tied to your account like Killer Instinct.

 

[samar11]

They need to kill off the 'Xbox' brand. It is pretty much toxic outside of NA/UK.

 

[rrc1594]

They don't have to "counter" this. They're going a different path. Sony doesn't make PC games etc.

Well from the look of it (atm), Sony doesn't want to counter it. Both are doing their own thing.

This. People really need to drop Sony V MS mindset.

 

[DjRalford]

"All Xbox One games and accessories will play on each device"

So he's just saying all original XBOX One games will play on each device, where does it say forward compatability?

 

[The Faceless Master]

"so that doesn't mean that we are leaving those on xbox one behind, every single thing we've done on xbox one will continue to work"

"we add to the capabilities of the xbox one and the xbox one family without forcing gamers to abandon all the games and the community they love so much"

"these two systems are a part of the same family, games will work on both, accessories will work on both"

"xbox one, xbox one s and xbox scorpio will all be compatible. all xbox one games and accessories will play on all three, no one gets left behind"

 

[Hitta93]

Well from the look of it (atm), Sony doesn't want to counter it. Both are doing their own thing.

Which is?

Haven't watched their press conference yet but it seems they're still a making a traditional console.

 

[SOR5]

This. People really need to drop Sony V MS mindset.

Its easy to look at things on a surface level and only see Xbox vs. Playstation

But Sony and Microsoft as whole companies? Their networks, goals and motives dont clash as much as people think

 

[Hitta93]

This. People really need to drop Sony V MS mindset.

Companies can't coexist and compete at the same time?

 

[Dryk]

I wouldn't buy an Xbox One just to play ReCore and Scalebound. So good job Microsoft for realising that you can get me to migrate to Windows 10 for them.

 

[Beefy]

Which is?

Haven't watched their press conference yet but it seems they're still a making a traditional console.

Nothing wrong with making a tradition console, it's worked well for them so far. If anything not having to buy a Xbox as well means I will end up buying a game ot two.

 

[paulogy]

I'm confused about an aspect of this. When they refer to the current Xbox One and the Scorpio and say "games will work on both" - but then refer to Fallout 4 VR, does that mean Fallout 4 VR will work on the current Xbox One? If so, that's huge news. If not, I think they need to change the messaging a bit (unless they're purposefully trying to be vague about Scorpio games not working on the current Xbox One).

 

[Movalpolos]

"so that doesn't mean that we are leaving those on xbox one behind, every single thing we've done on xbox one will continue to work"

"we add to the capabilities of the xbox one and the xbox one family without forcing gamers to abandon all the games and the community they love so much"

"these two systems are a part of the same family, games will work on both, accessories will work on both"

"xbox one, xbox one s and xbox scorpio will all be compatible. all xbox one games and accessories will play on all three, no one gets left behind"

So he is lying then.

 

[KonradLaw]

I'm happy with this because it means that pretty much every Xbox One exclusive is coming to PC now. But beyond that I don't see myself using their services if any W10 game is avaible on Steam, GOG or other non UWP platform.

 

[Arxisz]

Going to be tough for Sony to counter this.

Except they don't need to counter this? Who's to say this new Project Scorpio will be a succes? There is no incentive to buy a new Xbox console(which will probably be $499) when you can play all the games on a PC. If you're going to buy a console it should be the PS4. the best combination to have is a PC(for MS games) and a PS4 console(because of Sony's exclusive games) and it will stay that way for the rest of this generation.

 

[Hitta93]

Nothing wrong with making a tradition console, it's worked well for them so far.

You don't think the Play Anywhere feature will expand further than first party titles?

That's a game changer.

 

[Bsigg12]

I'm confused about an aspect of this. When they refer to the current Xbox One and the Scorpio and say "games will work on both" - but then refer to Fallout 4 VR, does that mean Fallout 4 VR will work on the current Xbox One? If so, that's huge news. If not, I think they need to change the messaging a bit, unless they're trying to be purposefully confusing.

No, the Fallout 4 VR talk was specifically aimed with Scorpio getting the power necessary to drive VR headsets.

 

[Mingledorff]

I'm confused about an aspect of this. When they refer to the current Xbox One and the Scorpio and say "games will work on both" - but then refer to Fallout 4 VR, does that mean Fallout 4 VR will work on the current Xbox One? If so, that's huge news. If not, I think they need to change the messaging a bit, unless they're trying to be purposefully confusing.

I'm expecting that traditional games will work on both. But that you may still have instances of "Well, since XB1 doesn't support VR this HAS to be only Scorpio" its a bit muddier but I think the vast majority will be both.

 

[VlaudTheImpaler]

"Gaming without boundaries."

So does this mean that they won't be holding any VR compatible titles to an exclusive HMD on the PC?

 

[Hitta93]

Except they don't need to counter this? who's to say this new Project Scorpio will be a succes? there is no incentive to buy a new xbox console(which will probably be $499) when you can play all the games on a PC. If you're going to buy a console it should be the PS4. the best combination to have is a PC(for MS games) and a PS4 console(because of Sony's exclusive games) and it will stay that way for the rest of this generation.

The console allows a cheaper entry fee to the exclusives.

It'll always be the better alternative.

 

[Schnauzer]

Well this made my next-gen purchases clear.

PC -> Vive
PS4 Neo -> PSVR

Vive is much better than Occulus (my hands-on experience), and with the money I save upgrading my Xbox I can soup up my PC even more. Since every game is now coming to W10, I'll be fine.

 

[213372bu]

We believe in Gaming Without Boundaries.

Cross-Buy aside, it sounds like Microsoft believes in trying to push self-imposed boundaries that are ruining entire game communities and leading to an under-performing marketplace that is avoided like the plague.