Gunslinger
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oh for real?
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Daigo unsure if SFV will still be played in Japan next year due to no arcade release.
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oh for real?
Yeah I just heard it said on the Tekken CEO stream by either MarkMan or Aris. A lot of people are picking up the game with this new one, the Akuma grab was a smart idea.
https://www.twitch.tv/tekken
EDIT: Poogko's going up next too, wow.
The Lone Dragon
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It's a Capcom game. And, it's SF. A lot of people in the community will have vested interests in SF5 disappearing.
For example, any time new info for GG or KOF was revealed, you had people in the common sections comparing it to SF5, claiming that THIS will be the game to kill SF5. It's been happening for years.
People think that bringing down SF5 will somehow elevate their own games. It never happens that way, though.
Also, you have to remember that haters are often louder than happy, content, busy people. Just because you hear complaints doesn't mean that everyone is complaining. Just wait until that Urien, Juri footage starts rolling out. There will be hype.
SF5 is often viewed as the "one to beat" in the traditional fighting game food chain. Even when MKX outsold it and was touted as a "complete" package beloved by casuals everywhere, in the competitive scene SF5 still left it in the dust.
And, as we all know, the "one to beat" will always have extremely vocal haters.
A smart idea courtesy of Capcom. People often forget this.
Switching over to T7 because of Akumal isn't really leaving SF behind.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I'm not sure why there wasn't a limited arcade release just for Japan. Perhaps it's more difficult/more expensive than I'm thinking it would be? I mean how hard is it really to put a PC in a cabinet and tweak the code to accept credits?
Anyway, I find it kinda hard to play SF5 in Japan since there's no arcades. There's always a place to play SF4.
Anyway, I find it kinda hard to play SF5 in Japan since there's no arcades. There's always a place to play SF4.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
Sure it's been said in the thread already but I hope a SSFV will please a lot more gamers.
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First of all, who cares if Capcom let it happen? It was a partnership. It's a smart idea and now we're seeing more people gravitate towards T7 with Akuma as an entry point for them. Justin Wong, Poogko, Daigo and Mago playing a good amount of it, people who were out of the Tekken series are jumping back in now. Overall it's a smart idea for the future of the franchise. It's not about who's idea it is, it's about the growth and expansion of Tekken. T7 is looking to be the most hyped Tekken in a great while which is a positive towards not only Tekken but fighting games in general.
And secondly leaving SF and playing T7 and playing Akuma in SF is what it is. Just because Akuma's in the game doesn't mean that people aren't leaving SFV if they say "well I'm done playing SF games, I'm playing Tekken now". If they say "I'm not playing SFV and yet I'll play T7" then that's really it. It's still a Tekken game regardless of who's in it and yes Akuma is originally a SF character. With that said he's canon in the Tekken universe now and the Akuma in Tekken is a different Akuma with a slightly different storyline. If people say "I'm not playing SFV anymore and instead I'll play Akuma in T7, that's it, I'm done with SF games" then that's all it is.
I don't even know why you're getting defensive about this but you need to chill. People can't even make any comments about SFV anymore without others jumping up and saying "well Capcom" and "well it's SF so-". My comment wasn't even negative towards the game.
Relax.
I don't know man, to me it seems that all this salt is coming from those that are having a hard time adjusting to the game. I loved SF4 and I think I'm having even more fun with SFV. It may not be for the casuals but, I don't hear any of the winners complaining.
Considering this outburst, I find this ironic. Good idea for Capcom or not, until this top players legit leave SFV and exclusively play T7, it's all jabberjaw. I don't see why you are getting hyped over people showing skepticism to these top players leaving money on the table leaving SFV to play T7.
Relax.
What makes you think that Capcom would go back on their word now, which (as stated before) would do even more damage to their rep & would be counter-productive to their eSports goals?
Gunslinger
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I always though Poongko wasn't very good. Yeah sure he had his little moment at evo 2k10?(not sure) when he beat daigo. Once people realized hes a "just do it, no fear" type of player he barely won any tournaments. When was the last time he won anything worthwhile? I can't recall but then again I haven't been following the FGC like i used to.
sixteen-bit
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it is what it is mayne
it starts.
Gunslinger
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so it begins...History repeating itself against. SFIV=SF2, SFV=3S. Maybe when SFVI comes out again in another 10 years SF will rise again! Until then back to the days of NRS ,3d fighters, Smash while SF goes back into the dark ages.
I have faith that SFV will thrive but I doubt it'll reach the lengths of SFIV though. I see this happening within the next few years
- PSN+ version with only 4 characters unlocked, free game of the month
- Complete: S1 version comes out to retail
- Season 2 and Season 3 releases
- More modes such as Arcade Mode, more story campaigns
- More stages of course, better ways to gain money to get all this crap
Once that happens it'll be good.
Tekken though I think Tekken's gonna rise up like never before. Tekken's gonna be lit when 7 hits consoles. SFV will be fine but yeah, they gotta get some footing and that'll take a while.
- PSN+ version with only 4 characters unlocked, free game of the month
- Complete: S1 version comes out to retail
- Season 2 and Season 3 releases
- More modes such as Arcade Mode, more story campaigns
- More stages of course, better ways to gain money to get all this crap
Once that happens it'll be good.
Tekken though I think Tekken's gonna rise up like never before. Tekken's gonna be lit when 7 hits consoles. SFV will be fine but yeah, they gotta get some footing and that'll take a while.
Many pros cannot find a character that fits.
Players like Bonchan and Poongko cannot settle on a main character.
Robot Pants
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Honestly I find sfv core game to be extremely slow and boring.
Super or the equivalent needs to bring in some system changes to make the game exciting cause I don't think it's gonna pan out with what they have currently.
Super or the equivalent needs to bring in some system changes to make the game exciting cause I don't think it's gonna pan out with what they have currently.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Is it really so weird to imagine people are criticizing the game in hopes of it getting better?
I don't get why any criticism of the 8 frames of lag on offline play is met with such hostility lol.
Who is good enough to criticize SFV?? Lol
Seems like anyone who does so must be bad at the game or fighting games. Even people who have had top 8 finishes at Evo
Nemesis121
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With the not so shiny success of SFV, i highly doubt Capcom will release this in the arcades..
Yo. We are simply speculating why Poongko switched to Tekken 7.
Gunslinger
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I have noticed SFV viewership dropped while tournament entry increase. Leads me to believe stream monsters who are mostly casuals lost the will to support this game as it didn't cater to them. But people who are serious are now slowly evolving from stream monsters to pot monsters lol. This weekend will be a big telling if SFV viewership can hang with SFIV. I recall CEO almost breaking 100k for USFIV last year if not more than 100k. Can SFV reach that number?
Poongko is shit at SFV so he may be better suited to T7 with a dumbed down Akuma. However, I assume that when Akuka is revealed for SFV (which is inevitable really) he'll come running back with his tails between his legs.
Also, I actually find it hilarious how some are comparing twitch numbers with the main event for SFIV on the main CEO channel versus a team battle for SFV on a side channel. Truly pathetic.
Also, I actually find it hilarious how some are comparing twitch numbers with the main event for SFIV on the main CEO channel versus a team battle for SFV on a side channel. Truly pathetic.
CartridgeBlower
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Glitter and Gold
Banned
By calling him shit at the game?
The biggest question is 'will they?'
Lol, do you even know the numbers for Dreamhack Summer last week, never mind it was last year? Hell, what it was for Dreamhack Winter last year?
I don't think there's any mainstream interest for Tekken outside of Japanese arcades.
Capcom made a big deal about how they made it oh so accessible, but I still find it technical as fuck. Character matchup knowledge is mandatory in that game. Just getting out of bronze ranking is probably an impossible task for 90% of players out there. It's no surprise people aren't taking to SFV.
Lol this is some revisionism going on. The last 2 USF4 events i can recall was him getting 4th at Capcom Cup 2015 and him winning the CPT Asia finals. Im sure theres like 2 other major events he won too, as well as multiple Top 8's. Hes a top 10 sf4 player easy. You're crazy.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
Yeah it's crazy to me lol
You do realize that you're comparing SFV casuals to USFIV singles, right?
DR2K
Banned
Add in missing features and make them good for one. Add in more fan favorite characters/stages. Go the F2P route and see a huge increase in player base.
Capcom has the ability to do this.
Could just keep SFIV alive. If Melee can thrive 15 years later with no support and a need for CRTs, the possibility is there.
DryEyeRelief
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I think the entrant numbers are a divekick effect, as in they made the floor of the game lower so more people are willing to play it in person. Divekick at one point was getting Marvel numbers at majors.
But a tradeoff was that divekick didn't have much lasting appeal. Even with adding characters and more complicated subsystems.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Namco is in an amazing position to dominate the scene if T7's release is solid. It'll be like the 2000s all over again. Adding more Street Fighter characters could actually hurt SFV in the long run.
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What do you mean by mainstream interest? I'm seeing the FGC embrace the game (well those who weren't into it before), I'm seeing more publications mention it, I'm seeing people I personally know comment on it and they haven't played a Tekken since 5. Even Giantbomb named T7 one of their top 10 E3 games shown. Where I'm at the local arcade here (a retro arcade) is still looking for the latest Tekken machine and this is the deep South.
It's not just Japanese arcades, I'm actually wondering where that comment came from it's far from that lol. Sure Japanese arcades love it but it's expanding love-wise across from what I can see. It's getting more love than it's gotten since maybe T5DRO when it was announced for PSN which is great for fighting games in general.
Yeah and I agree. Shit, gimme Sakura and let em do her justice. Namco's got a great shot with this game. They can't screw it up. Sales-wise TTT2 sold over 1.35M in just 4 months with that shitty thing Namco called promotion back then. I look forward to seeing how this one does.
Eh I dunno. Interest in Tekken always seems to be super low every time I watch a tourney, like lower than any other major fighter, including the anime fighters. I guess T7 could it turn around...
He is clearly not at the level he wants to be in SFV.
That's like saying Ryu's inclusion into Smash is detrimental. Any IP exposure is good, unless it's some erotic neko visual novel.
DryEyeRelief
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Well if we're just freely speculating then maybe he thinks SFV is boring and he doesn't want to play it
CartridgeBlower
Member
You're probably right, but the one thing that would actually show this -- sales -- doesn't back this up. At least not so far...
Personally I think it is due to Korea scene.
Korea loves Tekken way more than Japan, their scene kicks.
Glitter and Gold
Banned
No that's impossible he's just shit at the game so he's switching to a game that's way more difficult to be competitive in.
Gunslinger
Member
when i was saying if SFV can match USFIV last year in CEO i was talking about viewership. More viewership=more interest in the game. I recall USFIV doing really good in views last year at CEO. Did it break 100k? I know it was close. Can SFV retain that kind of number this weekend. Will be interesting to see.
Gunslinger
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I agree with you on that. If SFV fails I think smash will take over fgc. They are already putting up good numbers. Too bad Nintendo have 0 to no* interest in evolving the fgc. Atleast capcom tries.
Street Fighter is the heart-&-soul of the FGC. It'd take a lot for SFV to completely crater in the FGC, especially considering that we aren't facing any spectator-killing issues like SFxT's time-outs.
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