It's a really stupid line of thinking, though.
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It's a really stupid line of thinking, though.
I would probably be arrested after ejaculating in public as I read the news.
Nah, but London and middle-class in a very diverse area, so unlikely to see much. If anything, it's bloodly militarised the city the other way - feels like people are ready to go to war for the EU. Basically this.
ISWThunder
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Except that he never even came close to saying that. He said:
All of Europe will take a breath and say How do we maintain some of our national identities, how do we preserve the benefits of integration and how do we deal with some of the frustrations that our own voters are feeling.
No need for intervention, the US will focus on influencing the outcome from the outside, but you can be sure they won't sit quietly and watch things burn.
Because Vote Leave is a ramshackle coalition of tribes it'd be quite easy to use divide and rule against them. Imagine EEA Tories vs Facist Farage vs Liberal Leavers. Carnage.
Raven117
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That's not true. While the U.S. (as should any country) will continually look out for its own interests using many of its available tools, the U.S. and the U.K. have and will continue to have close relations and will help when needed (or asked).
Obviously, the U.S. is not shoving its nose in this because its not our issue and this is one that is decidedly European.
My guess is that the U.S. will use its influence during negotiations (if asked . . . and even maybe if we aren't) to try and garner the best deal for everyone.
A great line, and one that can be used in the U.S. as well. He is failing to meet the frustrations of the voters as evidenced by a few things in the U.S., but nonetheless, its the right idea.
The internal party machine conspires against Glorious Leader. This coup is barefaced bourgeois aggression and the people will not stand for it! So much so that they refuse to validate that party machine come election time.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...P=share_btn_tw#block-5772a80de4b05e63db153f40
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...P=share_btn_tw#block-5772a80de4b05e63db153f40
BossDarkseid
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I can imagine Tim Farron's face as he sees the results ...
Lib Dem's would be so bizarre. From relative extinction to "Oh, shit we won something" within a decade....
paperboywriter
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Sky news ask how much monarchy costs. When was the last time that was a question ask?
Not me personally but there was trouble outside East London mosque at the weekend. Some guy got his head kicked in. It could be brexit, or just more anti-muslim/anti-religious sentiments.
Funky Papa
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Health Commissioner Vytenis Andriukaitis, as Dascu pointed out a good while ago (hard to miss, this thread is a monster).
Some his roles:
Totally the kind of Eurocrat allowed to take the piss on Farage for claiming that the EU has more to lose than the UK.
The last time people voted for the lib dems on a single policy issue... it didn't go so well
.At the very least the Lib Dems need to find somewhere to hide Clegg.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Do you know what? At this point I'm more pissed off that not one of these fucking politicians have come out condemning the xenophobia displayed and promising swift and severe punishment for any caught.
We have moved past the point of a couple of drunk skinheads coming out the pub at 11:30pm
The only place I've seen it mentioned in a political context is some fuckwit asking Cameron to condemn people calling leavers racist.
As always, being accused of racisim is a more henious crime than the actually racisim itself.
We have moved past the point of a couple of drunk skinheads coming out the pub at 11:30pm
The only place I've seen it mentioned in a political context is some fuckwit asking Cameron to condemn people calling leavers racist.
As always, being accused of racisim is a more henious crime than the actually racisim itself.
When has a strong intervention by the US on a middle eastern country ever been a bad thing?
BossDarkseid
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Last year it was reported to be £37million or thereabouts.
I wonder if Sky are trying to find ways to save the economy.
unfortunately democracy doesn't require people to vote based on knowledge. You can vote for whatever reason you like - oh Nigel Farage wears purple socks? I love purple, I'll vote leave.
Again, if it wasn't Labour voters, who was it that did vote leave? I am wondering if it was actually the Tories.
Nah, it's too important that we all unite now. Can't cause division by pointing out such petty niggles.
PdotMichael
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The German car industry argument is perfectly in line with the English mindset that Europe would enter some union collapsing panic mode because UK is leaving
Yeah let's get rid of them and save £350 million a week lol.
Freaking tourists coming over here, and spending all their monies.
... and that the bureaucrat never created any jobs (which is ironic, considering the person speaking was working one of the most obvious job created by the EU).
Thanks.
Eh, should've guess she'd tune in. I'm not sure allying herself with Brexit is a good idea, it'll maybe finally show her supporter the lies she spills.
Edit: Umpteenth note to self: never ever read youtube comments.
BossDarkseid
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The last time people voted for the lib dems on a single policy issue... it didn't go so well
At the very least the Lib Dems need to find somewhere to hide Clegg.
Having just watched Veep I could imagine the Lib Dems riding to victory and Farron calling Clegg into No10 and saying "Fancy being my Deputy PM?" and Clegg just telling him to "Fuck off, I'm not falling for that one again".
I don't really have a lot of choice in what I do for the next two years (1yr into a 3yr uni course) but I will try to affect what I can. I guess we can sometimes be surprised by who is racist or not but my Uni is very...multicultural, in a worldwide way. It's a lovely place to be, so I hope when we go back there's...maybe trepidation but nothing to sour it (i mean someone being a racist prick etc).
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Nah. I live in London, but I'm sort of paranoid now everytime I get on the bus or walk past a group of English people. Brexit is at the forefront of everyone's mind, so I feel like people will be more inclined to resort to a racist Brexit remark when faced with a frustrating situation e.g. being held up at the supermarket check out or cash machine or waiting for a doctors appointment.
cormack12
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Just returned home and the bin collection hasn't been. I text my missus and told her and said it was because of EU cuts. She replied 'omg,really?'. She walked in before and said she'd phoned her mum, who said it was ridiculous and was busy getting the councils number off the internet and phoning a few of her mates who were leave voters.
I know I shouldn't laugh, but I haven't laughed in days so........
For the record I came clean and everyone is well informed it was a bit of gentle ribbing in these trying times.
On the other side, the past few days there have been 5 England flag poles and 7 Union flag poles erected. Tonight on the drive home, there was one England flag up (could be football exit related), two Union flags and one Union flag had been replaced with a Armed Forces one. Wonder if it's sinking in how screwed we are.
I'm hoping what was a show of triumph in the vote win, is now a trophy of ignorance given the result.
I know I shouldn't laugh, but I haven't laughed in days so........
For the record I came clean and everyone is well informed it was a bit of gentle ribbing in these trying times.
On the other side, the past few days there have been 5 England flag poles and 7 Union flag poles erected. Tonight on the drive home, there was one England flag up (could be football exit related), two Union flags and one Union flag had been replaced with a Armed Forces one. Wonder if it's sinking in how screwed we are.
I'm hoping what was a show of triumph in the vote win, is now a trophy of ignorance given the result.
Funky Papa
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Somebody fill me in about the whole German car industry argument.
Miles Quaritch
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One very minor positive of all this, the UK can finally get rid of Trident.
That's a huge money sink that the UK doesn't need and can't justify keeping as they lose billions from coming months/years.
They sell 20% of their output to UK, so they need us. Ignores cars built here and sold to UK pop.
Ignores people buying German cars are quite price inelastic, certainly so vs GATT tariff.
EU can't give the UK a shit deal because it will kill the German car industry, so they'll cave fast.
Cue German car industry giving exactly zero fucks.
The Incarnation
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Can't say I've noticed a change in the East Midlands. Run your mouth off around these parts though, you're likely to end up with a knife in your gut.
That's amazing
Ether_Snake
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My guess is Richard Brandson will run for office.
Miles Quaritch
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I'm pro BBC but they've been an iutter shambles throughout this entire referendum. Almost bad enough to make the argument for defunding them more credible...
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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No. Not yet. As I said couple pages back, my girls sis was told "she is next" but nothing worse than that.
But I will say, over the weekend I noticed a few people looking at me with a level of disgust. It's hard to describe if you havent experienced covert racism before, but 95% of racists wouldn't dare say a word to your face.
Those people will just look at you a certain way, and their thoughts will be written on their face, if only for a second. They might as well had "black bastard" written on their foreheads, it's that obvious what they are thinking
UK is the biggest european non-home market for German car manufacterer (which is sometimes wrongly quoted as being the second biggest market for them; it isn't, it's behind Germany, US and China).
So somhow they spin that in "EU will do everything we ask of it because Merkel will want to please the big carmaker. This means either our own car manufacturers will benefit, or we'll get access to the single market without freedom of movement".
Spoiler:
(note: Mini is also BMW owned; Aston MArtin is Italian, with Daimler (German) also involved)
Good bargaining chips. Much better than these completely useless banking passports.
Thankfully nothing has happened to me yet but my borough of London is 35% non white residents.
But my brother's friend in Southampton has said that he's been joked with people telling him to get out of the country by work colleagues and his wife was thrown abuse online because of her surname (She's English but took his surname which is Greek)
My grandma lives in Southampton too
paperboywriter
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the funny thing freedom of movement is not even the thing brexit voters want, they just want to shut the borders to all immigration but that has nothing to do with what the vote is about. the whole promise of less immigration is total bs and actually has very little to do with the EU. Most is UK law and is not going to change.
(~.^)
ultratruman
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There are baffling levels of ignornace about the historical importance of what is happening. Extraordinary denial.
These incidents were brought up and denounced repeatedly in the House of Commons Q&A with the PM yesterday.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2016-06-27/debates/1606275000001/OutcomeOfTheEUReferendum
Ctrl+F "racis", "hate"
Funky Papa
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Welcome to Scotland c.2014.
I haven't been pro-BBC since Blair's Gulf War. I was still young and wasn't really savvy enough to see through the propaganda before that.
Living not far away from Versailles, I guarantee you that cutting the head of your monarch won't change anything for tourism.
FlammableD
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I very much appreciated the Scottish MSP's actually attributing some blame and having some energy behind their condemnations rather than a bland "Please confirm this bad thing is bad".
I don't know. The fascinating thing about the British Royal Family is that they still live in those buildings and still display this old tradition.
Ending Monarchy would be a stupid idea for the Brits.
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