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Sony Issues Manual Copyright Strikes Against YouTubers Just For Discussing No Man's S
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Garrett Hawke
Member
crying is a normal human being thing to do
Sony has been harsh with handing out strikes for awhile now. My audience kept bugging me to do a full playthrough of UC4 and I didn't feel like risking my whole channel for one game.
Also the internet can be a small place sometimes, months ago I had gotten an email from Steven Thomas asking what he could do to help his channel grow momentum, and I told him that doing the same exact thing as every other big youtube channel wasn't going to work.
Guess he decided to start over with a channel solely doing No Man's Sky, which is honestly very risky as you've built up a subscriber base for a game that isn't out yet... but it's certainly working better than his last channel did.
This kind of thing tends to benefit smaller channels in the long run as now a bunch of major sites are reporting on it.
Also the internet can be a small place sometimes, months ago I had gotten an email from Steven Thomas asking what he could do to help his channel grow momentum, and I told him that doing the same exact thing as every other big youtube channel wasn't going to work.
Guess he decided to start over with a channel solely doing No Man's Sky, which is honestly very risky as you've built up a subscriber base for a game that isn't out yet... but it's certainly working better than his last channel did.
This kind of thing tends to benefit smaller channels in the long run as now a bunch of major sites are reporting on it.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Is this some attempt to deny the leak ever happened? Yikes. Hopefully there's a miscommunication of some sort like Sean Murray says, because this is just not a good move at all. Especially since the game is out tomorrow.
Check out the article. He goes in depth about how the strike took away his ability to livestream, and he had been planning to do something for charity which he no longer can.
He got Sean Murray's attention which is a good thing, but these copyright strikes can seriously screw you over if Youtube is something you do for a living (not that uncommon nowadays).
Check out the article. He goes in depth about how the strike took away his ability to livestream, and he had been planning to do something for charity which he no longer can.
He got Sean Murray's attention which is a good thing, but these copyright strikes can seriously screw you over if Youtube is something you do for a living (not that uncommon nowadays).
Goose_Se7en
Banned
Anyone smelling PS2/pre-launch PS3 era, arrogant and pompous Sony coming back?
Like I'm sure Sony didn't just say lets take down all NMS videos. This could be something like their legal team doing this. So I imagine it'll get sorted.
But I hate seeing stuff like this no matter who it's from. Nintendo imo is the worst offender. But youtube invited this stuff with the whole contend ID crap.
But some of yall are reaching. I'm only worried about the youtube channels getting their rights back.
Some in here are already starting the narrative "arrogant Sony is back" or this is going to somehow diminish goodwill of the game. Largely this will have no impact on anything after a few days.
But I hate seeing stuff like this no matter who it's from. Nintendo imo is the worst offender. But youtube invited this stuff with the whole contend ID crap.
But some of yall are reaching. I'm only worried about the youtube channels getting their rights back.
Some in here are already starting the narrative "arrogant Sony is back" or this is going to somehow diminish goodwill of the game. Largely this will have no impact on anything after a few days.
It's almost as if it's abusing a broken system by wrongfully placing the YouTuber in a position they can almost assuredly not defend while also risking losing their account and potentially their livelihood.
the video says simply discussing it got effected so I am assuming not all even are showing video of the game out early. It just seems bizarre someone can claim copyright on something thats multi platform.
capitalCORN
Member
I trust Sony.
mrmickfran
Member
It'll be taken down tho
JayWood2010
Member
Considering it was done manually there is a much greater chance than 0.
It being sorted was said by Sean Murray right? He is the developer and is in no way associated to Sony. It basically means he disagrees with Sony on this.
Kssio_Aug
Member
It's just YouTube for you. It's possibly the guy profession.
Mechanized
Member
Copyright Holders have way too much power on Youtube. This is really fucked up.
This is all because Google doesn't want to pay a team of people to manually review this shit. At some point human intervention is NECESSARY.
This is all because Google doesn't want to pay a team of people to manually review this shit. At some point human intervention is NECESSARY.
Why are you focusing on the multiplatform stuff. That's irrelevant to who owns what rights.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Won't buy it full price anymore. You don't bite the hand that feeds, Sony.
Unreal Champ
Banned
This is for the players. LOL
What a joke of a company.
What a joke of a company.
backbreaker65
Banned
I'm trying to care.
because they shouldnt be able to do that? Like wouldnt it be shitty if MS took down a videos about a game that is also on PS4?
It just seems like to much power to me.
ThankeeSai
Member
So, with all this happening, I take it it's not a good idea for me to stream on youtube tonight? (UK)
PixyJunket
Member
Based Sony.
It shouldn't have to be sorted. It shouldn't have happened.
InsaneTiger
Member
The whole damn system is broken, this is dumb.
I doubt this is something being directed from Andrew House and other executives. Watch it be a bunch of fucking lawyers.
But they shouldn't be able to do that because of fair use, not because the game is on multiple platforms.
If Microsoft took down a Minecraft video captured on PS4 and it isn't covered by the common understanding of fair use then they would be well within their right.
Again: You're focusing on the wrong thing.
valkillmore
Member
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Yeah fuck hello games and all the people who worked hard on the game over something that was probably a mistake.
That will show them
I know corporate sony can be this stupid, but I don't think it has anything to do with Hello Games
... and I'm glad to see it.
https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/762606662284902400
they mentioned it earlier on Sean´s twitter.
... and I'm glad to see it.
Unknown?
Member
Yeah okay that makes sense if it's his source of income, that would be really shifty. If it's just a show though that he does on the side, then its overreacting.
Do your best!
Bits N Pieces
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DeepEnigma
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Yep. Sean said 'accidentally', so I am going to run with that for now.
Kssio_Aug
Member
I agree about the Hello Games part. But a mistake? I highly doubt it.
Azure Dream
Member
People keep saying it was "probably a mistake".
I mean, that's not like an accidental Content ID flag. That's someone very deliberately slapping the video down.
It's not something the developer wanted to happen, and Sony's probably going to stop now that it's bad press, but I'd hesitate to call that a mistake. More like "a choice Sony made they quickly regretted."
I mean, that's not like an accidental Content ID flag. That's someone very deliberately slapping the video down.
It's not something the developer wanted to happen, and Sony's probably going to stop now that it's bad press, but I'd hesitate to call that a mistake. More like "a choice Sony made they quickly regretted."
Vincent Grayson
Member
Without more information, it seems like a typical overreaction to blame Sony as a whole. This is almost certainly one overzealous asshole and not a corporate policy.
the article says some have been taken down for simply discussing the game I am pretty sure that is under fair use and they shouldnt have the power to do that.
Let's hope they can rectify their deliberate yet clearly boneheaded decision.
Sony's behaviour regarding NMS has been garbage, but the unfortunate truth is that there's 0 incentive for them to offer cross-play with Xbox. A big selling point for consoles is being able to play with your friends. Since PS4 is the market leader, the majority of purchases based on social circles are going to land in Sony's favour. Sony loses that advantage if they allow cross-play with the competition, and since Microsoft is far more aggressive in pricing and bundles ...
DISSESHOWEDO
Banned
Funny mentioning a joke in a post like yours.
As for the topic, pretty sure this will be sorted out shortly.
Seems Sony acted on their own accord without the dev's knowledge. Sony, wow, good job.
valkillmore
Member
Right and that's why I said specifically that this is a fuck up on Sony part. Jesus one of the major reasons this game is so hotly anticipated is because of the YouTube people and other sites proping it up. They'll get this fixed.
Well I'm sure House or layden didn't say. "take down every NMS video." I bet this some legal team stepping in and doing this. Shit like this has happened before and it has been a mistake. Maybe I'm wrong but I've never heard of Sony doing anything like this before.
It just again shows that youtube's system about this whole thing is crap. I mean look at Nintendo they'll take a video down at the drop of hat. We all hate it but that's just how thins work under this system.
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