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"Holy...80 gigs??"

When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.

Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees? :D
 

Corpekata

Banned
I imagine most are worried about the DL rather than the HDD size.

But really, most AAA games are going to be in the 50 GB range these days at least so if you've got shitty internet, you're in for a long ass download either way.
 

oni-link

Member
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.

Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees? :D

With console games it's annoying, since at present you can only have up to 2TB on a PS4, I don't want to have to reinstall games and then re-download gigabytes worth of patches every time I want to pop in a game for a quick session
 

shiyrley

Banned
what

I mean I have 300 Mb download / upload speed so I don't mind huge sized games but...

wat

Ah, actually I do mind with games that work better in SSDs since my SSD is "only" 250 GB.
 
One of my favorite games of all time isn't even a gig, so I vastly disagree with this.

Big file size make me question the competency of the developer. I understand that there are reason why the file sizes are so big, but that shouldn't be an excuse. Kill some of the bloat in your game, ffs.
 
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.

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Vuze

Member
I mean, if it's justified (like GTAVs 65GBs), sure.
But there are plenty of games with shit textures that are blown out of size simply due to lack of compression or whatever like Wolfenstein.

Also I'm not sure if you are sarcastic or not. lol
 

Ash735

Member
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.

Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees? :D
Most of the time though it's down to devs just not wanting to compress things, audio this generation has mainly gone for the super easy ADPCM route instead of investing into other more efficient and better quality codecs like VORBIS, which is a pet peeve of mine seeing as audio is taking up more space but sounding nowhere near as good as it can be.
 
With console games it's annoying, since at present you can only have up to 2TB on a PS4, I don't want to have to reinstall games and then re-download gigabytes worth of patches every time I want to pop in a game for a quick session
I just delete old games I dont play on my PS4 to open up space...perhaps that's why it's not as satisfying, because I'm not building up terabytes of installed games like on PC.
 
Knowing something will likely take me like 24 hrs to download and also take up > 10% of the space on my console's HDD doesn't usually fuel me with joy, no...
 

bman94

Member
I feel the opposite: "ughh, now I gotta wait a few hours to play a game I just bought. It's even worse with digital games cause then I can't even use my internet while it installs.
 
I've never understood the complaint about game sizes.

I know download speeds are slow some places
I know harddrive space is limited.

To me its the same as games being held back in quality for older consoles. Its just a problem we're gonna have to deal with.

Games are gonna get even bigger. Thats how it works.
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Heed my warning, tag-avoiders... this is a dangerous path ;)
 

oni-link

Member
I just delete old games I dont play on my PS4 to open up space...perhaps that's why it's not as satisfying, because I'm not building up terabytes of installed games like on PC.

Yeah it's less of an issue on PC and less of an issue if you have fast download speeds

My internet is pretty poor so it's more of a hassle to me

Edit: It's annoying you can't delete the install but keep the patches on PS4, you could do this on PS3

I mean, I can understand why you can't, but it's still annoying to those of us who replay games and have slow download speeds
 
On the other side of the spectrum... do any of you ever feel the opposite way when playing a game that's 1 gig or a few gigs or even less than a gig? Let's use a AAA game for this example... a game you paid $50 for. Would you feel like you're not getting your money's worth if it was just a gig or two?

My answer to that question yes i most likely have felt that way subliminally. That's the key word; subliminally. I don't think I've ever pointed it out directly, if that makes any sense (probably not).
 

Bsigg12

Member
what

I mean I have 300 Mb download / upload speed so I don't mind huge sized games but...

wat

Ah, actually I do mind with games that work better in SSDs since my SSD is "only" 250 GB.

4K gaming. Games with native 4K textures will start popping up more and more
 

EGM1966

Member
This is why I won't be shifting to digital for big titles anytime soon and why I believe we need ability to refine install size too.

I'd like to see more effort on compression too: it's just a slog particularly on console handling more than a set number of large installs.

I presume this is 4K textures and possibly audio pushing the size up?
 

Theorry

Member
I've never understood the complaint about game sizes.

I know download speeds are slow some places
I know harddrive space is limited.

To me its the same as games being held back in quality for older consoles. Its just a problem we're gonna have to deal with.

Games are gonna get even bigger. Thats how it works.

Agree yeah.
 
I recently got much better internet and even now I still hate huge download sizes. What's 80gb? Not much? Only almost 1/5 of the hard drive in the base models. My question would be why 80? There's plenty of games already out there that fit themselves into smaller size limits with much bigger scope overall.

That's not to say games shouldn't get bigger as they obviously will, but the consoles themselves don't really cater to games being that big. Hell even my SSD doesn't appreciate it. One is steadily outpacing the other on progression.
 

oni-link

Member
On the other side of the spectrum... do any of you ever feel the opposite way when playing a game that's 1 gig or a few gigs or even less than a gig? Let's use a AAA game for this example... a game you paid $50 for. Would you feel like you're not getting your money's worth if it was just a gig or two?

My answer to that question yes i most likely have felt that way subliminally. That's the key word; subliminally. I don't think I've ever pointed it out directly, if that makes any sense (probably not).

No, I'm impressed when games are small though

I think Fast Racing Neo is about 500mb, and Journey was 600mb on PS3 and was one of the best looking games of the generation
 

Akai__

Member
If anything, it's ridiculous, annoying and sometimes even unjustified.

Look at Witcher 3. Even with all the DLC's it's like 50GB big and it's a pretty large Open World game. Now take a look at Halo 5... It's ~90GB's, has a ~6 hour campaign and map file sizes that are bigger than actual games.
 
When I saw the Gears 4 50 to 80 gigs requirement i started drooling. I love it!!! Something about installing a game that requires 50+ gigs of space makes me feel like I'm really getting my money's worth.

Is this a subliminal psychological sort of thing? The more gigs the better. HDDs are so big now anyway so what's 80 gigs really? It sucks for those in AU and other bandwidth capped countries but here in 'Murica...MOAR GIGS! Who agrees? :D

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DedValve

Banned
This proves that Nintendo games are ridiculously overpriced. Look at smash, only a few gigabytes. Hardly any content at all.

I tease, I tease



Xbox is so painfully slow downloading and installing especially compared to PS4, couple that with my FREEDOM OF AMERICAN INTERNET (15mpbs on a really, really, REALLY good day) and I just cry.

And the HDD space which I'm already juggling on my 500 hdd on PS4 and at this point I might as well hold out for neo.

Nintendo da bess for their ridiculously good compressing.
 
This sounds intensely ignorant.

The number of different factors that go into the size of a game is large, but quality is not some kind of 1:1 ratio with size. Perhaps it could be because a large number of uncompressed, high quality assets are available, but not necessarily, and further, it could mean they simply didn't package these in an appropriate or efficient manner.

To say nothing of the fact that internet speeds aren't keeping up with these ballooning sizes, or that the best technology for storage comes with a very high premium as it increases in size, there's nothing to cheer about just because a game is big.

On the other side of the spectrum... do any of you ever feel the opposite way when playing a game that's 1 gig or a few gigs or even less than a gig? Let's use a AAA game for this example... a game you paid $50 for. Would you feel like you're not getting your money's worth if it was just a gig or two?

Never.

Here's my strategy:
1) Play the game
2) Determine if I got my money's worth

At no point would I consider the size of the game as indicative of its quality, subconsciously or otherwise.

Edit: Sorry if this comes off aggressive. It just seems like exactly the sort of marketing thing that people get taken by, and I hate that. Like saying, "This has 1 billion transistors!" What does that mean? Nothing at all. You could creating something with a lot of tech behind it, but that tells you nothing about the quality of the product.
 
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