So there will be games you can play on the Scorpio that you cannot play on the Xbone.
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Microsoft clarifies whether or not there will be Scorpio exclusive Xbox games
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So there will be games you can play on the Scorpio that you cannot play on the Xbone.
Microsoft gaming PR spins me out. It's all this cloak and dagger shit that got them to this point today.
Why spend a ton of cash on a Scorpio if you'll never see it's potential outside of VR which frankly could still go the way of 3D. Microsoft I don't believe you, I'm betting they'll be exclusive non VR games for the Scorpio inside of 12 months if not at launch.
Why spend a ton of cash on a Scorpio if you'll never see it's potential outside of VR which frankly could still go the way of 3D. Microsoft I don't believe you, I'm betting they'll be exclusive non VR games for the Scorpio inside of 12 months if not at launch.
"games"
Bitch Pudding
Member
I strongly doubt that as well. But I have no doubt that we'll see exclusive (Non-VR) content rather sooner than later, on both Scorpio and Neo btw. PR of both will come up with their usual "this game just wasn't possible on the old system blablabla" and that's that.
I mean what? What is going on with this thread?
VincentMatts
Member
It doesnt have anyone confused. People who like attacking MS just enjoy using this against them. Its absolute common sense.
Hell, all they need to do is release a base version of that game that works without the VR. But even if they do that, youll have people who are still "confused". This debate is absolutely pointless.
MilkyJoe
Member
why? when it's completely scalable and profitable?
Scorpio is a console, though?
No. It's a phone.
Hockeymac18
Member
Clearly it isn't to some:
I agree it does seem straightforward: no exclusive non-VR games. VR games will likely only be a Scorpio thing.
I'm personally fine with that.
LukasTaves
Member
Because they know the moment they say that the narrative that will be told (on message boards and the media) is how xbone will be left behind and there will be scorpio exclusives.
The convuluted way they keep saying it allows that people who know the xbone can't run VR anyway won't be getting those games and sends the No one gets left behind to the general consumer who might be afraid to invest in the ecosystem now knowing that a new better thing is coming.
LordBaztion
Member
It's more likely that there will be games/features/accesories that won't be designed for X1 because it can't handle it like VR. I think its better leaving it up to developers instead of forcing full compatibility, if they want to develop only for Scorpio, then they will have to deal with a lower user base.
I don't expect MS to develop games exclusively for Scorpio, except for VR games/feature/accesories.
I don't expect MS to develop games exclusively for Scorpio, except for VR games/feature/accesories.
Bitch Pudding
Member
The very second one of them feels urged to give their new platform a push. They don't have to abandon the complete support of their old SKUs from the start, just deliver a couple of interesting 1st party exclusives should do the tricl to make people migrate to the new ones. In the case of Scorpio, they can also start cross-selling VR equipment and games, for example (in other words, MS actually has an interest to sell Scorpio consoles instead of XBOX One S consoles).
Im confused now, please dont confuse me. Is Scorpio a truck?
Has it occurred to you that some members of the populace may not be as informed about these issues as you are? Try strolling through a popular franchise software store and overhearing a couple of conversations. You may be a little surprised what some people expect and believe about particular platforms and when platform holders make statements that directly contradict each other, it doesn't help.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Please stop trying to be funny...
nm
Greenberg the genius, challenging the very definition of what a video game is.
since we're talking about clarity. let's clear this up. you think anyone that is confused about scorpio messaging has some ulterior motive and are pretending to be confused?
Leyasu
Banned
It will.. But it will be ported by another studio.
Wait so a Scorpion is a shark now?? I thought it was called Scorpio, wait is it a live Scorpion? But you said its a jumping shark?
What???
Fucking Greenberg
Movalpolos
Banned
It was never clarified.
What a fucking terrible getout.
MilkyJoe
Member
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I think it's obvious
One was designed for Kinect, tv use etc
The plan failed and didn't sell as well against ps4 as they really believed it would
They had to take out thier plans for the system as well as it wasn't selling on preorders
Believe it or not but one was created with tv and Kinect in mind. This hurt getting more power into the unit and price. Microsoft loves power in their consoles, typically thier go to marketing strategy
I feel they look at one like a step child and put work in it to push thier brand forward, os games etc
They do want to drop it and it's easy to see why
well okay then. I'd consider that clarrifed
This. VR is going to take more juice,can't really be avoided.
At least the normal games won't be exclusive.
the microsoft way ;-)
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
That was a clarification? Excellent.
MilkyJoe
Member
De nada
LowerLevel
Member
No exclusive games will probably last as long as Quantum Break Windows 10 only did...
The reason why MS have not stated all Scorpio games will work on Xbox One explicitly in an official statement is because they have no idea.
If I had to bet all Scorpio games will work on Xbox One S for the first 1 to 2 years and after that we will see Scorpio exclusive games. Reason MS hasn't outright said it is because they don't want backlash when they do decide to start making Scorpio exclusive games.
Because Scorpio releases so late. By the time Scorpio is in its end of 2nd year PS5 can potentially release and MS don't wanna be left behind with Xbox One S compatability holding the system back when it's time to compete with PS5.
If I had to bet all Scorpio games will work on Xbox One S for the first 1 to 2 years and after that we will see Scorpio exclusive games. Reason MS hasn't outright said it is because they don't want backlash when they do decide to start making Scorpio exclusive games.
Because Scorpio releases so late. By the time Scorpio is in its end of 2nd year PS5 can potentially release and MS don't wanna be left behind with Xbox One S compatability holding the system back when it's time to compete with PS5.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
I just wonder how you feel and think when you find this is no longer true? An if situational of course.
As it seems you may care that one gets all the games with how you word this.
Sometimes it seems people believe things that they want but history.had shown this is unlikely for ms to do this..
uh haven't they said exactly that though?
Because that's not gonna happen. Over 6tf to share the same games has Xbox 1? I wanna see the receipts
Technically an upgraded Xbox One
Marketed as a brand new console with the original XB1 being forwards compatibile
err... technically its a brand new console that plays the same games as Xbox One
I agree with this. Esp with Scorpio.
Their whole "no more generations" speech was so that people would think Xbox One would play any games going forward.
technically a brand new game thats a technical xbox one
EDIT: I mean, it won't be marketed as an Xbox One. It'll be a really beefed up XB1, but they wont remind you of it. Windows 7 and Vista is always my go-to comparison
So, like they said before, it will be like XB1 will be a PC with med/low settings and Scorpio will be Ultra settings. Any game will be made to play on both. Just like a PC game can play on multiple settings. More work for the dev for sure, but it will be good for the Xbox ecosystem.
I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about what they just said.
I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about what they just said.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Beamer has always been very pro microsoft and much more on teamxbox, don't look into it too much.
It's fine if people want to believe microsoft but honestly I wouldn't nor Sony when it comes to such things. Nintendo is a bit more honest and straight forward imo. Not that they do what I like with thier franchises though
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Or why it's so hard to understand our reasoning for going against what he's saying? This seems hard for posters to understand?
We aren't saying we can't understand him, we are saying we don't believe him.
Pr spin? Did we read the same op? Plus I've read before this exact sentiment that was said. All games will work on both consoles and it will be up to developers if they choose to upgrade the graphics to use scorpios power. Also it will be up to developers if they want to make Scorpio only games, but Microsoft won't make Scorpio exclusive games.
Guys, seriously, come on.
Aaron answered a simple question with a rambling statement that tries to define "console gaming" instead of just saying "VR games will be exclusive to the Xbox Scorpio".
Acknowledging that doesn't mean that you're dense or have a low IQ.
Shadowheart
Member
I honestly thought these two things were the same thing.
I think both Sony and Microsoft are doing their best not to alienate existing customers but also make these new consoles appealing. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them change their rules depending on how the market plays out. I see these new iterative consoles playing out one of 3 ways:
- Neo/Scorpio sell okay while PS4/Xbox One continue to see healthy sales. Devs focus on the baseline consoles and the stronger console versions of games see modest improvements (this is the most likely scenario imo)
- Neo/Scorpio sell extremely well and sales for PS4/Xbox One see a huge drop off. Devs focus on taking advantage of the power of the newer consoles while the baseline version suffer. Eventually baseline consoles don't even get support
- Neo/Scorpio barely move the needle, PS4/Xbox One are still the primary install base. Devs barely give any attention to the Neo/Scorpio version other than brute force improvements (60fps, higher res, etc.)
- Neo/Scorpio sell okay while PS4/Xbox One continue to see healthy sales. Devs focus on the baseline consoles and the stronger console versions of games see modest improvements (this is the most likely scenario imo)
- Neo/Scorpio sell extremely well and sales for PS4/Xbox One see a huge drop off. Devs focus on taking advantage of the power of the newer consoles while the baseline version suffer. Eventually baseline consoles don't even get support
- Neo/Scorpio barely move the needle, PS4/Xbox One are still the primary install base. Devs barely give any attention to the Neo/Scorpio version other than brute force improvements (60fps, higher res, etc.)